Turkish military ship joins efforts to reach Rohingya Muslims

[telkon]

@telkon i wont take it back i explain why in next part, @Neptune, mate dont mind about that, no need to waste time for such debate.
@telkon @Alienoz_TR Your sources is laughable and well known to target turkish state ,while their only aim to damage AKP ,they dont care about honour of state. All in all,his way of telling isnt appropiate and his message that i give negative rating is clearly much different than his messages later on .( for @Alienoz_TR)

I shared 3 links in this thread. first is from chinese MOD, second is from hong kong newspaper, third is for people like you. now please do explain to me, how chinese MOD source is laughable. i'm providing photos from Gediz's visit to Qingdao, since you seem to be unable to understand written material

rest of photos are here:

Editorial Photos, Celebrity, News, & Sports Images | Rex

@telkon,you are not someone to lecture Neptune about this issue, everyone knows well his comments and infos are trustworthy ,while the informations he given is clear.

I will oppose, object to and argue with anyone i want, if i see it fit. i'm not obliged to ask your permission to do that. and this subject showed that he's far from being well-informed suck it up, shut up and go write on subjects you have some understanding.

Also TSK is army of this country,and president is the " chief" as stated in the law, so they will fullfill the strategy of Turkey republic. From the humanity side ( let it from being a political thing for AKP) ,the logical is one that the ship being sent for SAR operation for refugees in sea and i think our navy has that humanity among the other countries who sent their ships to search for Malaysian airways plane ( sure they were rich people) ,while they dont move their boats know near to those seas for refugees ( australia, vietnam, india , US and china )

Yet among this issue, TCG gediz is on route for 125th anniversary of ertuğrul frigate incident and this is main task,also other reasons @Neptune mentioned,they objected and most probably sailing on expected route. Its not like there is no presence to send , i can tell you it would cost like 500k dollar to send a midsized ship to there ( considering the wages of staff is already paid even ship doesnt sail ) and 100k is more worthy than 9000 lives.

Also now it seems like countries in the region begin to coordinate with the voices raising from the world ,and need for TCG Gediz no longer valid.

i won't waste my time replying to the rest of your post, for it seems senseless gibberish which doesn't have anything to do with the topic.

P.S. i won't reply to further comments. i think i made my point and IMO i owned your arrogant and ignorant a$$es, big time. so, ciao losers.

P.S.S. these kinds of threads put forward all kinds of crazies people keep inside. a single sentence post like "god bless turkey" gets 9-10 thanks or neptune's uninformed post #18 gets 11 thanks. it only shows your chauvinistic nature, ignorance, arrogance, your herd mentality and your need for ego masturbation. doğruyu söyleyeni dokuz köyden kovarlar misali, bu yazdıklarımdan sonra "ühü ühü ama o türkleri ve türkiye'yi kötülüyor, adidir, şerefsizdir" diyen mallar çıkacaktır eminim ki. o mallara da diyeceğim tek şey var: çok da s..imdeydi ne düşündüğünüz, sizin gibi koyun olacağıma reject olurum daha iyi.

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[Hakan]

Guys we don't need to write provocative comments calling people bad names, this isn't primary school. Just argue but don't insult other people. If you wouldn't want someone saying it to you don't say it to someone else. Simple words like ignorant etc. can lead to hostilities between people.

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[aks18]

Long Live Turkey

 

[telkon]

Guys we don't need to write provocative comments calling people bad names, this isn't primary school. Just argue but don't insult other people. If you wouldn't want someone saying it to you don't say it to someone else. Simple words like ignorant etc. can lead to hostilities between people.

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wtf mate, it's not about hostility LOL i just put neptune in his place, i.e. he shouldn't call someone ignorant while he's the monument to ignorance. that's it. and isoo was just acting like neptune's lap dog, so i showed him his right place too. nothing more, nothing less. and i'll visit the link you provided.

edit: the link you provided is locked.

 

[ANMDT]

@Hakan will it be let to these guys to insult freely like this?

 

[nomi007]

shameful moment
attitude of Bangladesh Malaysia and Indonesia
well done

turkey u make me proud

after adding
amphibious assault ship
turkey will help better way and play an import role in the world

 

[Nike]

shameful moment
attitude of Bangladesh Malaysia and Indonesia
well done

turkey u make me proud

after adding
amphibious assault ship
turkey will help better way and play an import role in the world

your country can try to accept thousand or two, and then still 160 million lies waiting for better fortune in the same fashion

 

[nomi007]

your country can try to accept thousand or two, and then still 160 million lies waiting for better fortune in the same fashion

accepting them is a not a proper solution
2nd
in pakistan there are some 200,000 Rohingya refugees residing in Pakistan
we also have 3million afghan refuges
solution is to create a proper state in burma for muslims like Bosnia

 

[Nike]

accepting them is a not a proper solution
2nd
in pakistan there are some 200,000 Rohingya refugees residing in Pakistan
we also have 3million afghan refuges
solution is to create a proper state in burma for muslims like Bosnia

i am not talking just about Rohingya issue alone, but Bangladeshi fortune seeker too, they are mingled in the same boats with the Rohingyas. Malaysia has accepted and assimilated more than half million of Bangladeshi and Myanmarese refugees, and because of that millions of them right now is in the line before the boats to make a bet.

 

[Kambojaric]

the Bengali Muslim soldiers deployed against the Turks in Palestine had refused to fire on his soldiers. The British thereafter had disbanded the Bengali Muslim Paltans. My own grandfather was one of those who had refused to fight the Turks. Sadly the same cannot be said of other Muslim soldiers fighting for the British. For instance, my parent unit in PA was deployed in Palestine. It had 50% Sikhs and 50% Punjabi Muslims. By the end of WW I it had suffered casualty which exceeded its strength.
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Do you have any sources for this? The Units that are documentated to have done mutinies and uprisings were made up of Muslim Punjabis and Pashtuns afaik and Bengalis had a negligible presence in the army post 1857.

"Distressed by the fact that Britain was at war with Turkey, the Light Infantry - consisting solely of Punjabi Muslims - revolted, killed their officers and seized control of Alexandra Barracks, where the Germans had been detained. They released the German prisoners (since Germany was an ally of Turkey) ...

Marshall of Singapore: A Biography - Kevin Tan - Google Books

"As the Turkish Sultan was still the revered Khalifa of Islam, many Muslims had qualms about making war on the Turkish co religionists. Consequently the British had to make a conscious effort not to send Indian Muslims to Egypt, Sudan or Mesopotamia ... In fact, at Gallipoli, in May 1915, two battalions of Punjab Muslims had to be laid off as the commanding officer refused to take responsibility for the loyalty of his Muslim soldiers. Similar feelings among the soldiers erupted in the Singapore Mutiny of the fifth light infantry"

Colonial India and the Making of Empire Cinema: Image, Ideology and Identity - Prem Chowdhry - Google Books

Then there are the 15th Lancers from Multan made up of Punjabi Pathans who once landed in Basra refused to fight the Turks and had to be sent to Persia to do patrolling instead.

15th Lancers (Cureton's Multanis) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Again I am open to correction but afaik Bengalis had a negligible presence in the army in the post-1857 era. Can you refer to any specific units, battalions or incidents please. I am asking this specifically because I am interested in history and would like to know more about the role of Muslims in this war as ultimately the roots of Pakistan start emerging during this period and Bengalis obviously played an important role in the Pakistan movement as well.

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On topic it is nice to see Turkey doing this although rather shameful for Muslim countries in the region especially Bangladesh which shares a direct border with Rakhine. I can understand that they are already overpopulated but this blocking out people (forget Muslims, just other human beings) who are starving and being pushed out into the water is shameful.

 

[Mujahid Memon]

where is Pakistan ?

 

[Samandri]

Sadly the same cannot be said of other Muslim soldiers fighting for the British..

When Pashtun Soldiers refused to fight against Ottomans

 

[asad71]

Do you have any sources for this? The Units that are documentated to have done mutinies and uprisings were made up of Muslim Punjabis and Pashtuns afaik and Bengalis had a negligible presence in the army post 1857.

"Distressed by the fact that Britain was at war with Turkey, the Light Infantry - consisting solely of Punjabi Muslims - revolted, killed their officers and seized control of Alexandra Barracks, where the Germans had been detained. They released the German prisoners (since Germany was an ally of Turkey) ...

Marshall of Singapore: A Biography - Kevin Tan - Google Books

"As the Turkish Sultan was still the revered Khalifa of Islam, many Muslims had qualms about making war on the Turkish co religionists. Consequently the British had to make a conscious effort not to send Indian Muslims to Egypt, Sudan or Mesopotamia ... In fact, at Gallipoli, in May 1915, two battalions of Punjab Muslims had to be laid off as the commanding officer refused to take responsibility for the loyalty of his Muslim soldiers. Similar feelings among the soldiers erupted in the Singapore Mutiny of the fifth light infantry"

Colonial India and the Making of Empire Cinema: Image, Ideology and Identity - Prem Chowdhry - Google Books

Then there are the 15th Lancers from Multan made up of Punjabi Pathans who once landed in Basra refused to fight the Turks and had to be sent to Persia to do patrolling instead.

15th Lancers (Cureton's Multanis) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Again I am open to correction but afaik Bengalis had a negligible presence in the army in the post-1857 era. Can you refer to any specific units, battalions or incidents please. I am asking this specifically because I am interested in history and would like to know more about the role of Muslims in this war as ultimately the roots of Pakistan start emerging during this period and Bengalis obviously played an important role in the Pakistan movement as well.

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On topic it is nice to see Turkey doing this although rather shameful for Muslim countries in the region especially Bangladesh which shares a direct border with Rakhine. I can understand that they are already overpopulated but this blocking out people (forget Muslims, just other human beings) who are starving and being pushed out into the water is shameful.

1. Unfortunately for the Rohingyas BD's defense and foreign affairs are covertly controlled from Delhi. Throughout history whenever Bengal was weak , the Burmese Buddhists invaded and looted Arakan. At this instance thee is a definite cooperation between the extremists in Buddhist Burma and Hindu India. Both view the arrival of Islam as a threat. Also to note the Indian spook boss Duval has wide experience of serving in this region.

2. Bengal Army of the Company was raised mostly from the Bengal Presidency and Oudh. The soldiers of the armies of the Nawabs of Oudh and Bengal were Muslims and Brahmins. Those days the Bengali Muslims did not speak Bengali, thus the confusion. Their origin could be found in the Pathan armies of Sher Shah and others who had been waging a continuous war against the Mughals.While the Bombay and Madras Armies remained located to the south most of the time, the Bengal Army operated all over N India, stretching from Bengal to Afghanistan.

3. As soon as I can locate a link/source I will post it here. My source was my late grandfather who was in the first Paltan. And they were sent back to be disbanded. It is widely known that our national poet Kazi Nazrul Islam was a Havildar in the second Paltan. That one had remained encamped in Karachi throughout the war.

4. At this time the Rohingyas require funds and arms. All Muslims should help in their Jihad.