Turkish Air Force - Weapons and Capabilities ( News and Updates )

[Foinikas]

Still dreaming with puppet Greece as rival to Turkiye
USA/Europe also use Ukraine as puppet/proxy against Russia

Ukraine is not rival to Russia
Greece is not rival to Turkiye

Our rivals are big Countries since 1500s

Why did you start your nationalist boasting again? I'm just pointing out your contradictions. The stuff you say is complete nonsense.

 

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Why did you start your nationalist boasting again? I'm just pointing out your contradictions. The stuff you say is complete nonsense.

only one example
Our rival France is fighting Turkiye via puppets/proxies ( PKK/YPG , HAFTAR , Greece , Armenia ) in Syria , Libya , Caucasia and in the Eastern Mediterranean

Go and fight in 4 fronts against big powers , then come and dream about rival to Turkiye
Go and develop Fighter Jets,Warships as big powers , then come and dream about rival to Turkiye

Your babbling wont change the reality
Topic is over ... dont terrorize my thread with your nonsense

 

[Foinikas]

only one example
Our rival France is fighting Turkiye via puppets/proxies ( PKK/YPG , HAFTAR , Greece , Armenia ) in Syria , Libya , Caucasia and in the Eastern Mediterranean

Go and fight in 4 fronts against big powers , then come and dream about rival to Turkiye

Your babbling wont change the reality
Topic is over ... dont terrorize my thread with your nonsense

Oh everyone is a proxy? Because our interests align,we are proxies? This is silly conclusion. It's as if you don't even live in the region,you just believe every trash story your government media says.

Of course it's easier for you to think this way. You want to imagine that you're a powerful empire and the strongest countries in the world are afraid of confronting you directly,so they use dozens of other nations as proxies.

@LegionnairE how's this for nationalism?

 

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Oh everyone is a proxy? Because our interests align,we are proxies? This is silly conclusion. It's as if you don't even live in the region,you just believe every trash story your government media says.

Of course it's easier for you to think this way. You want to imagine that you're a powerful empire and the strongest countries in the world are afraid of confronting you directly,so they use dozens of other nations as proxies.

@LegionnairE how's this for nationalism?

They are so smart to use puppets/proxies for their interests
100 years ago puppet Greeks died against the Turks , smart British took oil reserves in Iraq Mosul/Kirkuk

Keep dreaming with puppet Greece which is nothing without USA-France protection

what a daydreamer nation
Greece can not produce even a Cruise Missile , still dreaming about rival to Turkiye

only ISTANBUL = Greece

 

[LegionnairE]

Oh everyone is a proxy? Because our interests align,we are proxies? This is silly conclusion. It's as if you don't even live in the region,you just believe every trash story your government media says.

Of course it's easier for you to think this way. You want to imagine that you're a powerful empire and the strongest countries in the world are afraid of confronting you directly,so they use dozens of other nations as proxies.

@LegionnairE how's this for nationalism?

Interests might be aligned but France is also using you as a proxy to hurt Turkey. It seems like an unnecessary discussion

If you think that a war is inevitable with Turkey, sure take what you can get but it's not inevitable. And it's highly unlikely that they will actually shed their own blood for you.

You will be doing the fighting and dying while they are sending hopes and prayers basically. Much like in 1922. Don't be under any illusions.



They might give you a bunch of Rafales, meteors etc. Which is not insignificant. It's definitely something. But they will worm their way out. Don't Trust any imperialist power coming here from thousands of kilometers away. They aren't in any actual danger. This is your fight and they know this.

 

[Foinikas]

They are so smart to use puppets/proxies for their interests
100 years ago puppet Greeks died against the Turks , smart British took oil reserves in Iraq Mosul/Kirkuk

What the f does Greece vs Turkey have to do with Britain taking Iraq? You guys had lost the war already. The mandates were in place.

Keep dreaming with puppet Greece which is nothing without USA-France protection

what a daydreamer nation
Greece can not produce even a Cruise Missile , still dreaming about rival to Turkiye

Just because we are a smaller nation doesn't mean we are a "proxy" or a "protactorate". If we were,Turkey wouldn't dare to fly aircraft or sail ships close to us. All the bull would have stopped by the foreigners. The fact that Erdogan continues his crazy policies,is proof that Greece is not a protectorate.

Interests might be aligned but France is also using you as a proxy to hurt Turkey. It seems like an unnecessary discussion

This guy thinks everyone who has beef with Turkey is a puppet of some country. It's ridiculous. In a bit he'll tell us that Iran is a Russian puppet.

If the French wanted to use us as a real proxy,they would have given us a lot more weapons and pretty much for free.

Meanwhile,the funny thing is he keeps talking about Ukraine and Russia,but he forgets that Russia got mauled by Ukraine.

Don't Trust any imperialist power coming here from thousands of kilometers away. They aren't in any actual danger. This is your fight and they know this.

That's a known thing here. Everybody says it. Nobody expects the foreigners to come and fight for us (unless they have big interests at stake). What we need is their weapons and support. Americans and French will only fight themselves if Turkey or some other country does something that endangers their men or their interests.

 

[LegionnairE]

That's a known thing here. Everybody says it. Nobody expects the foreigners to come and fight for us (unless they have big interests at stake). What we need is their weapons and support. Americans and French will only fight themselves if Turkey or some other country does something that endangers their men or their interests.

Good, as long as you keep this in mind we can prevent bloodshed.

The biggest reason why WWII happened is because Polish leaders thought "The Great Britain is behind us, mustache man can't do anything"

Of course when time came british did fuckall to save Poland.


The biggest war in human history could have been prevented if Poles didn't believe the British and were more reasonable with Danzig.

"Why die for Danzig?" was one of French anti-war slogans. Imagine dying for a few kilometers of WATER

 

[Foinikas]

Good, as long as you keep this in mind we can prevent bloodshed.

The biggest reason why WWII happened is because Polish leaders thought "The Great Britain is behind us, mustache man can't do anything"

Of course when time came british did fuckall to save Poland.


The biggest war in human history could have been prevented if Poles didn't believe the British and were more reasonable with Danzig.

"Why die for Danzig?" was one of French anti-war slogans. Imagine dying for a few kilometers of WATER

Yeah but eventually the Germans would have invaded anyway

 

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Turkiye and Our rivals ( Air Force )



High altitu Air Defense Systems .... only 2 in Europe

SAMP-T : France/Italy
SIPER : Turkiye

Medium altitude Air Defense Systems .... only 4 in Europe

MICA VL : France
SKY SABRE : UK
IRIS-T SLM : Germany
HISAR-O : Turkiye

MANPADS

MISTRAL : France
SUNGUR : Turkiye

Air launched Cruise Missile

SCALP : France , UK , Italy
TAURUS : Germany
SOM : Turkiye

Air to Air Missiles

MICA : France
IRIS-T : Germany
ASRAAM : UK
BOZDOGAN and GOKDOGAN : Turkiye

Early warning AESA Radars

Ground Master - 400 : France
ERALP : Turkiye

UCAV - Unmanned Fighter Jet

AKINCI and KIZILELMA : Turkiye

Radar Electronic Warfare Systems

KORAL and REDET-II : Turkiye

Turkiye joins the big Club Fighter Jet

TF-X ( MMU )

 

[LegionnairE]

Yeah but eventually the Germans would have invaded anyway

Absolutely not. Hitler wanted Poland as his anti-communist ally. His real goal was soviet union. He wasn't anti-polish, when Pilsudski died, there were great memorial ceremonies in Germany. Funerals in absentia if you will. Attended by none other than everyone's favorite mustache man.

Poland would be like Romania or Hungary... or Finland.

 

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What the f does Greece vs Turkey have to do with Britain taking Iraq? You guys had lost the war already. The mandates were in place.

between 1919-1922
Turks were busy to fight Greeks,Armenians,French in Anatolia
on the other hand smart British focused on oil reserves in Iraq ( Mosul-Kirkuk )

Just because we are a smaller nation doesn't mean we are a "proxy" or a "protactorate". If we were,Turkey wouldn't dare to fly aircraft or sail ships close to us. All the bull would have stopped by the foreigners. The fact that Erdogan continues his crazy policies,is proof that Greece is not a protectorate.

without USA-France supporting , Greece wouldn't dare even to say anything to Turkiye

Greece is trying to match with Turkiye but your strength is not enough
And nobody dare to fight Turkiye for PKK/YPG , Greece , Armenia

Meanwhile,the funny thing is he keeps talking about Ukraine and Russia,but he forgets that Russia got mauled by Ukraine.

Ukraine lost Crimea and Don-Bas
Ukranian Cities were destroyed ( over $400 billion )
Millions of Ukranians left Country

even Russia doesnt use its full of power
and Ukraine is slavic as Russia ... Russia doesnt being cruel in Ukraine


Russia lost nothing .. except old military equipment and soldiers

 

[Foinikas]

between 1919-1922
Turks were busy to fight Greeks,Armenians,French in Anatolia
on the other hand smart British focused on oil reserves in Iraq ( Mosul-Kirkuk )

Is that your excuse? You just lost a World War,your country was partitioned by the Treaty of Sevres and you think you could have "kicked" the British out of Mesotopamia?

without USA-France supporting , Greece wouldn't dare even to say anything to Turkiye

Greece is trying to match with Turkiye but your strength is not enough
And nobody dare to fight Turkiye for PKK/YPG , Greece , Armenia

Oh you think if USA and France didn't "support" us,we would have just let you take the islands? Take half the Aegean?

You should have studied Greek history. There's thousands of years of it. You'll find many instances where we fought alone against numerous enemies.

Ukraine lost Crimea and Don-Bas
Ukranian Cities were destroyed ( over $400 billion )
Millions of Ukranians left Country

Crimea and Donbass were already under Russian control,before the war

So how many men have the Russians lost so far? How much equipment? How much progress have they made?
Stop trying to immitate Russia,because you don't know how a conflict would end. And who would get involved.

even Russia doesnt use its full of power
and Ukraine is slavic as Russia ... Russia doesnt being cruel in Ukraine

Hey @gambit @jhungary @Vergennes @mike2000 is back @Hamartia Antidote @KAL-EL check this out! This reminds me of the first months of the war.

Russia lost nothing .. except old military equipment and soldiers

Ah nothing...just tens of thousands of men and thousands of tanks,armored vehicles,artillery,air-defence systems,fighter jets,helicopters,the Moskva,other ships and prestige.

 

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Is that your excuse? You just lost a World War,your country was partitioned by the Treaty of Sevres and you think you could have "kicked" the British out of Mesotopamia?

What a troll who knows nothing about history and military


Turks did not lose battles during ww1 ( except Sinai and Palestine campaign )

Iraq ( Mosul-Kirkuk ) was belonged to the Ottoman Empire ( Turkiye ) in 1919


-- CHURCHILL dreamed to drink Turkish cofee in Istanbul in a few days
but We Turks kicked British+French in ww1 in Gallipoli

-- Turkish Army entered Caucasia and İran in ww1

-- British General Townshend surrendered with his 13,309 men, including 6 generals and 476 officers, on April 29th 1916. This was the highest number of British troops captured in a long time

The siege of Kut al Amara with the Turks in the Mesopotamian Campaign ( Iraq ) brought the end of General Townshend's career


British is so smart to use Greeks as puppets to take oil reserves in Iraq ( Mosul-Kirkuk ) between 1919-1922


even British took oil reserves in Iraq ( Mosul-Kirkuk ) at the desk with the trick
1926 Ankara Treaty Mosul and Kirkuk provinces were given to Iraq.

Crimea and Donbass were already under Russian control,before the war

after the war Don-Bas was become Russian territory
and Nobody can take Don-Bas from nuclear power Russia

Ukraine was doomed by USA,UK,France,Germany
and Ukraine paid heavy price

So how many men have the Russians lost so far? How much equipment? How much progress have they made?
Stop trying to immitate Russia,because you don't know how a conflict would end. And who would get involved.

Nobody cares about loses and equipment ... Russia has huge population and defense industry

Russia took Don-Bas after Crimiea and Russia is so happy

Ukraine is only loser side in this war .... as like Greece in 1922

 

[Foinikas]

What a troll who knows nothing about history and military

Let me stop you there. Friendly advice,again. We may not be friends,but trust me this is some friendly advice:

Everytime you say "what a troll who knows nothing about history and military",the whole forum is laughing at you. Believe me,the only one,THE ONLY one,in this discussion,who is historically and militarily ignorant and misinformed...is you.

Many people have said that before,I think that it is time to realize it and stop talking big and you might pass a more serious person.

Nobody cares about loses and equipment ... Russia has huge population and defense industry

Russia took Don-Bas after Crimiea and Russia is so happy

You have a hard time understanding both history and war.

1. Who cares about losses and equipment? The country. The families of the dead. The rest of the soldiers. The morale has fallen. Who cares about the equipment? The military.
2. Donbass was taken BEFORE the war of 2022.

Turks did not lose battles during ww1 ( except Sinai and Palestine campaign )

Iraq ( Mosul-Kirkuk ) was belonged to the Ottoman Empire ( Turkiye ) in 1919


-- CHURCHILL dreamed to drink Turkish cofee in Istanbul in a few days
but We Turks kicked British+French in ww1 in Gallipoli

-- Turkish Army entered Caucasia and İran in ww1

-- British General Townshend surrendered with his 13,309 men, including 6 generals and 476 officers, on April 29th 1916. This was the highest number of British troops captured in a long time

The siege of Kut al Amara with the Turks in the Mesopotamian Campaign ( Iraq ) brought the end of General Townshend's career


British is so smart to use Greeks as puppets to take oil reserves in Iraq ( Mosul-Kirkuk ) between 1919-1922


even British took oil reserves in Iraq ( Mosul-Kirkuk ) at the desk with the trick
1926 Ankara Treaty Mosul and Kirkuk provinces were given to Iraq.

You seem to ignore that by the end of WWI,Iraq was already in British hands.

 

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Let me stop you there. Friendly advice,again. We may not be friends,but trust me this is some friendly advice:

Everytime you say "what a troll who knows nothing about history and military",the whole forum is laughing at you. Believe me,the only one,THE ONLY one,in this discussion,who is historically and militarily ignorant and misinformed...is you.

Many people have said that before,I think that it is time to realize it and stop talking big and you might pass a more serious person.

I dont care about your advice
because you and your friends are biased , full of anti-Turkiye users with big hatred against Erdogan

all of you lacks military knowledge and trying to defame Turkish defense industry including DEINO

in 2021 when I said everybody will see KIZILELMA in 2023 , even as a MOD DEINO called me delusional and KIZILELLMA as ultranationalist propaganda

Your team said the same thiing about the TFX

When I show a military project , You ,Chinese, Iranian , Egyptian and other users immediately tried to defame Turkish projects and discredit me

actually we are laughing at you and your friends ....
KIZILELMA ,TFX and other Turkish military projects comes true step by step