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except for karakin we have the rest of those time in my provence we have , İğdir village and surname they are here considerd as sub clan of yomut



we have them too karaca also is a surname taken from karaca clan

Karaca isn't a tribe though, it was a personal name and sometimes nickname :) your Karaca clan is probably coming from the name of someone like that.
 
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The majority of muslim Azeris are shias but does not mean that every Azeri is a shia. Except for non-religious persons, we have a big Sunni, and jewish community as well. Specially in North, the percentage of Sunnis may reach to 30% of muslims. In South, it should be about 5-10 % I guess, but there are no data to confirm it.

Around 15% of Azerbaijan are Sunni. There are Sunni Caucasian minorities like Lezgins, Avars, but they hardly make up 3% of total population, so most of Sunnis are ethnic Azerbaijani Turks. And while Dagestani groups belong to the Shafi sect, Azerbaijani Sunnis are Hanafi.
it's very interesting i didn't know u have sunni turk may is ask where do they live and what is their clan's name anything would be helpfull i also find something interesting in azerbijan maybe we are much more closer to each other than we thoght

Təkəli tayfası - Vikipediya
this was their land
Türkmən, Barda - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

this is an other place named after them in Georgia

Təkəli - Vikipediya

Текали (Марнеульский муниципалитет) — Википедия


"Tribe Tekeli, is a branch of the Oguz tribe Teke, migrated to Asia Minor, probably under pressure from the Mongolian, the Seljuk Sultan of Rum, were settled in the south-western Anatolia. Probably already in the XV century Tekeli moved in Shi'ism, becoming murids Safavi Sufi order of Ardabil. Supporting the Safavids in all their endeavors, along with other Turkic tribes in Anatolia and Azerbaijan (now southern Azerbaijan), steel boned kyzylbashskogo tribal alliance, united around sheikhs kind Safavids in numerous campaigns and wars that led to power in Azerbaijan initially, then in all Iran, Safavid dynasty. Tekeli efforts were duly appreciated by Shah Ismail I, after having lost the uprising Şahkulu in Anatolia, its hereditary ulka, received allotments throughout the Safavid state, and high public office, until Beylarbeyov Azerbaijan. But already during the reign of Shah Tahmasp I, in 1531, Tekeli raise a rebellion against the Shah's government. In the period of the reign of Tahmasp I to Abbas I, Tekeli repeatedly involved in the insurgency. In 1533, the emir of the tribe Ulama Khan Tekeli, defected to the Turks, having passed the Safavid capital, Tabriz, troops of Sultan Suleiman I. At the accession of Shah Abbas I, Tekeli continued to express disobedience Shah's government. Centralizing policy of Abbas I, aimed at curbing rampant feudal anarchy, led in 1596-1597 gg. the publication of the decree and Cuttle-Amm (wholesale extermination) of the tribe. All members of the tops of the tribe were deprived of posts, many of whom were executed, the tribe itself is devoid of all estates who resisted were exterminated, the remnants of the tribe were placed under the authority of other tribes. In 1597, the tribe Tekeli was completely destroyed. Often mistakenly repression against tribe Tekeli by Shah Abbas I regarded as reprisals against all qizilbash. In fact, no other kyzylbashskoe tribe was not repressed, by contrast, Qyzylbashs constituted the backbone of the army under the Safavid Shah Abbas I, shahsevanov."


the turkmen barda could possiably the tekke whom disobeyed shah abbas the word barda means slave

im familiar with that disobedience , this is in our culture we have our own tribal law we dont follow a man cuz he is a king or imam the man should have enough charisma and respect to make the man follow him he should win the hearts of his people than people will follow him , we live with this culture until ww1 when the qajars fall

i read the book of this guy

William Irons | Evolutionary Anthropologist

he right about our social and political structure yomut has to type of people one was nomad people (charwa/charva) other one was farmers (chomur ) he take some pic about my tribe it may interesting they are look like azerbijani's nomads

Photographs | William Irons

@Targon u didn't gave me a clear awnser when salur/teke tribe come to antalya dose the come after mongol invasion ?(u better find it as after mongol invasion :butcher: :lol: )
 
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@Targon dude do u remember when i told you that we have gerey clan and they are from evil god gerey/Kerey The god of factious'. but u reject this and told me kerey is title for tatars ??
Erlik - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
  1. Karash Han: The god of darkness.
  2. Matyr Han: The god of courage and bravery.
  3. Shyngay Han: The god of chaos.
  4. Komur Han: The god of evil.
  5. Badysh Han: The god of disaster.
  6. Yabash Han: The god of defeat.
  7. Temir Han: The god of iron and mining.
  8. Uchar Han: The god of informants.
  9. Kerey Han: The god of factious'.

i found another clan with name of old god my own clan

Jaiyk - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

karanjiyk were the water god worshipers gerey and karanjiyk are both clan and surname

University of Luxembourg - Ahmad GHARANJIK

turkmen

Begymrat Gerey

are u still think these are not related to our paganism ??
 
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@asena_great

Nah still think its probably from personal name or title :D "factious" isn't a good thing anyway, why would they give this name to their tribe ? :D
 
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@asena_great

Nah still think its probably from personal name or title :D "factious" isn't a good thing anyway, why would they give this name to their tribe ? :D
what about jaiyk ?? karan means belly/stomach/guts idk what jaiyk means maybe it's means water or river, karan jaiyk means center of jaiyk which would be means center of river it's true the clan's territory is between two big river about gerey cmon we worship all the gods lol it's normal to worship god of darkness or death god ... gerey was just one of them :D
 
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what about jaiyk ?? karan means belly/stomach/guts idk what jaiyk means maybe it's means water or river, karan jaiyk means center of jaiyk which would be means center of river it's true the clan's territory is between two big river about gerey cmon we worship all the gods lol it's normal to worship god of darkness or death god ... gerey was just one of them :D

How are you pronouncing Jaiyk ? its pronounced like "Yayık" check Turkish pronounce in google translate, I don't think jiq in Karanjiq is pronounced same.

Its also sounds like a pesonal name btw.
 
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Ashgabat, Turkmenistan, Nov. 3

By Huseyn Hasanov - Trend:

Turkmenistan's GDP growth rate has been strongly maintained at an average of more than 10 percent for the last 2 years, according to the report of the International Monetary Fund.

The experts said that this macroeconomic indicator is expected to reach 11.5 percent in 2015, the Neutral Turkmenistan newspaper reported. "It is noteworthy that this figure is the highest among the countries presented in the review of the IMF," the article said.

These data were mentioned in the report of the IMF mission Chief Bjorn Rother in Ashgabat. He was taking part in a conference on monetary reforms, competitiveness and the economic growth issues at this stage. The IMF representative referred to the fund data, published in the Review of World Economics collection of statistical data.

Earlier, the ministry of economy of Turkmenistan reported that Turkmen GDP grew by 10.3 percent for Jan.-Sept. 2014.

Turkmenistan holds one of key positions in the region for the supply of natural gas, which is imported by Russia, China, and Iran.
 
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President Erdoğan arrives in Turkmenistan
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Turkmenistan President Berdimuhamedov welcomes the president with an official ceremony
President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan arrived in Turkmenistan Thursday evening and was recieved by Turkmenistan President Gurbanguli Berdimuhamedov with an official welcoming ceremony at Oğuzhan Palace.
The national anthems of the both countries were played after which bilateral talks began.
Speaking at the ceremony President Erdoğan thanked President Berdimuhamedov for attending his oath taking ceremony after being elected President of the Republic of Turkey.

Stating that Turkey will continue to make contributions to the development of Turkmenistan Erdoğan said, I believe relations between Turkey and Turkmenistan will continue.

Berdimuhamedov on his part said that they gave historical importance to the visit and the agreements to be signed would enhance friendship and fraternity between the two countries.

Three agreements are expected to be signed during the bilateral talks.

President Erdoğan will watch Ahal Teke Horse Show at Turkmenistan Presidential Racecourse and then perform his Juma prayer at the Ertuğrul Gazi Mosque.

The president will lay wreaths on the Mausoleum of Turkmenistan's First President Sparmurat Türkmenbaşı and the Independence Monument.

Turkmenistan Foreign Ministry International Relations Institute will give honorary professorship to President Erdoğan.

Erdoğan will return to Istanbul after attending a dinner to be given in his honour by President Berdimuhamedov.

Turkish President Erdogan and Turkmen counterpart started bilateral talks
The already-close ties between Turkey and Turkmenistan will continue to flourish, President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said on Friday.

Speaking to the press before starting face-to-face talks with his Turkmen counterpart, Gurbanguly Berdimuhamedow, Erdogan drew attention to the number of important projects Turkish construction companies are carrying out in Turkmenistan.

He added that relations will also develop in trade, culture and tourism.

Erdogan was welcomed by Berdimuhamedow with an official ceremony on Friday. Turkmenistan is the first Central Asian country Erdogan has visited as president.

"Turkey and Turkmenistan have common stances for establishing global peace and prosperity," Berdimuhamedow said, mentioning that the economic ties between the two countries enrich historic fraternity between Turkish and Turkmen nations.

The two nations also enjoy strong relations in terms of trade and investment, with about 600 Turkish companies registered in the country with more than $34 billion in contract work.

The trade volume between the two countries reached $2.6 billion in 2013.

Energy trade between Turkmenistan and Turkey also has great potential as the former holds some 10 to 12 percent of proven natural gas reserves in the world.

Turkey could have an important role in delivering Turkmen gas into the European market, if the country were to begin gas exports to Turkey.
 
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President Erdoğan arrives in Turkmenistan
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Turkmenistan President Berdimuhamedov welcomes the president with an official ceremony
President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan arrived in Turkmenistan Thursday evening and was recieved by Turkmenistan President Gurbanguli Berdimuhamedov with an official welcoming ceremony at Oğuzhan Palace.
The national anthems of the both countries were played after which bilateral talks began.
Speaking at the ceremony President Erdoğan thanked President Berdimuhamedov for attending his oath taking ceremony after being elected President of the Republic of Turkey.

Stating that Turkey will continue to make contributions to the development of Turkmenistan Erdoğan said, I believe relations between Turkey and Turkmenistan will continue.

Berdimuhamedov on his part said that they gave historical importance to the visit and the agreements to be signed would enhance friendship and fraternity between the two countries.

Three agreements are expected to be signed during the bilateral talks.

President Erdoğan will watch Ahal Teke Horse Show at Turkmenistan Presidential Racecourse and then perform his Juma prayer at the Ertuğrul Gazi Mosque.

The president will lay wreaths on the Mausoleum of Turkmenistan's First President Sparmurat Türkmenbaşı and the Independence Monument.

Turkmenistan Foreign Ministry International Relations Institute will give honorary professorship to President Erdoğan.

Erdoğan will return to Istanbul after attending a dinner to be given in his honour by President Berdimuhamedov.

Turkish President Erdogan and Turkmen counterpart started bilateral talks
The already-close ties between Turkey and Turkmenistan will continue to flourish, President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said on Friday.

Speaking to the press before starting face-to-face talks with his Turkmen counterpart, Gurbanguly Berdimuhamedow, Erdogan drew attention to the number of important projects Turkish construction companies are carrying out in Turkmenistan.

He added that relations will also develop in trade, culture and tourism.

Erdogan was welcomed by Berdimuhamedow with an official ceremony on Friday. Turkmenistan is the first Central Asian country Erdogan has visited as president.

"Turkey and Turkmenistan have common stances for establishing global peace and prosperity," Berdimuhamedow said, mentioning that the economic ties between the two countries enrich historic fraternity between Turkish and Turkmen nations.

The two nations also enjoy strong relations in terms of trade and investment, with about 600 Turkish companies registered in the country with more than $34 billion in contract work.

The trade volume between the two countries reached $2.6 billion in 2013.

Energy trade between Turkmenistan and Turkey also has great potential as the former holds some 10 to 12 percent of proven natural gas reserves in the world.

Turkey could have an important role in delivering Turkmen gas into the European market, if the country were to begin gas exports to Turkey.
i think they are talking about pipline in next few mounth foreign minister of turkey azerbaijan and turkmenistan will meet agian
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btw accept our hosbitality in our humble palace :D

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i think they are talking about pipline in next few mounth foreign minister of turkey azerbaijan and turkmenistan will meet agian
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btw accept our hosbitality in our humble palace :D

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A pipeline connection via Turkmenistan>Azerbaijan>Georgia>Turkey>Europe would be a strategic win for all, hopefully Europe will support the idea after Ukraine desaster.
 
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If Russia involves(most likely would), it wouldn't work, Russia is still influential in Turkmenistan.
 
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it will happens if russians stop it they will mess up with kazakhistan uzbekistan too they will let the gas go to eu but they will put some rules for eu market it's not the russians i fear it's iran turkey should politically support turkmenistan most of thing depends on turkey , turkey should also invest on some different economic field in turkmenistan andh help for industrialisation i have heard the good news about turkmen students studying in turkey
 
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