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That's only because Turkey is siding with them right now, you should check their reports from 2011 and see how they reported the war against PKK, they even made a documentary back in 2012 showing Atatürk as some kind of evil.
The source: http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/ilber-ortayli-azeri-diye-bir-millet-yok-stalin-hiyari-uydurdu-40554701İlber Ortaylı: 'Azeri diye bir millet yok, Stalin hıyarı uydurdu'
Ortaylı, "Azerbaycan'lı başka, Azeri başka. Türkler arasında Azeri diye bir millet yoktur. Bunu Stalin hıyarı çıkardı. Stalin cahil bir Gürcü'dür. Milliyetlerden anlamaz, felaket bir heriftir" dedi.
13.th Turk World Children Song Contest, winner is Rania Zaripova from Tataristan, 2nd Anna Daragu from Gagauzia, 3rd Emin Memmedov from Azerbaijan.
Anau excavations in Turkmenistan shed some lights on proto-Turk civilization, which makes it older than Egyptian one in some respects, even some academicians call it ''the Dawn of Civilization''. @asena_great ... any info to add?
The source: http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/ilber-ortayli-azeri-diye-bir-millet-yok-stalin-hiyari-uydurdu-40554701
A well-known historian İlber Ortaylı:'' No such people as ''Azeri'' among Turks, it is made up by Stalin, who is an ignorant Georgian.''
That is Iranian, not Proto Turkic. There were no Turks in today's Turkmenistan. Its sad to see state television spills bullshit even in such simple thing.
Erşat Salihi : "Türk dünyasına sesleniyoruz, silahlı güç lazım"
"Irak'ta merkezi hükümet ve Kuzey Irak yönetimi var. Bunların Peşmergesi, öbür tarafın ordusu ve Haşdi Şabisi var. Benim neyim var? Bizim de güçlü bir silahlı grubumuzun olması lazım. Irak Türkmenlerinin bölgede huzurlu ve güvenli bir şekilde yaşayabilmeleri için kesinlikle silahlı bir teşkilatı veya ordusu olması lazım."
I do not have to. Its an established fact that today Turkmenistan and partially Uzbekistan were settled Iranian lands until recent history.
You still keep claiming despite challenged by intellectually.
Cheap talker.
Dude I'm not claiming. This isnt a controversial issue. What I'm saying is a fact. Even the westernmost borders of Gokturk Khaganate were barely reaching Turkmenistan. I'm not talking about the Turkic settled area, I'm talkin about the borders that was expanded by military power.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sogdia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khwarezm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afrighids
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bactria
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Khorasan#History
https://tk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Türkmenistanyň_taryhy
Adamların kendi sayfası bile memleketin tarihi m.ö 2000 yılında göçüp gelen İrani tayfalar ile başlar diyor
The science is wellknown to not be sure of the current situation, since history is to some part of the sicence, every new finding under the ground makes some changes in academic books.
However, you come up with wiki to back up your claim makes a fact that you are a cheap talker.
It is also a very tragic that Turkish ancestors and heritage are considered and named by you as Persian makes another fact that you are in identity crisis. That is a self-explanatory about your claims.
Will you please stop rubbish talk for the sake of the thread and readers?
You just dont understand that I do not have to answer with a 15 pages essay to disprove that claim by TRT Avaz. BECAUSE IT HAS NO SCIENTIFIC BACKGROUND IN THE FIRST PLACE, if there is, please bring it up. How can I disprove when there is no proof?. Even a simple wikipedia page is enough because you just cant disprove a single wikipedia page with that baseless claim.
Our history is rich enough. No need to pollute it with lies and get ourselves mocked in international area.
The only reason i paid attention to your post was background of your stance, based on knowledge or cheap talk.The wiki links and now your asking me to show you are wrong tell enough about you.
Advice: read the new findings before attempting to defame an institution and refute it with discredible links on the net. After that, You will at least not have to desperatly stick to wikipedia, and get some credibility in a knowledge-welcome discussion.
honestly it's hard to believe . in iranian legend iranian and turks (turanian) are come from same ancestry and turks live in centreal asia but these turks are much different fomr us we i mean as oghuz turks can only trace our history to ghaznavid and seljuks area even taking asena legend (tho it's turkic ) for our nationality was wrong our totem symbols were birds like eagle falcon hawks etc if u look at Seljuk flag u will see the birds but to answer to you question i have to ask u which turkic civiliation are you talking about ?? the turanians the oghuz turks ?? or the others13.th Turk World Children Song Contest, winner is Rania Zaripova from Tataristan, 2nd Anna Daragu from Gagauzia, 3rd Emin Memmedov from Azerbaijan.
Anau excavations in Turkmenistan shed some lights on proto-Turk civilization, which makes it older than Egyptian one in some respects, even some academicians call it ''the Dawn of Civilization''. @asena_great ... any info to add?
The source: http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/ilber-ortayli-azeri-diye-bir-millet-yok-stalin-hiyari-uydurdu-40554701
A well-known historian İlber Ortaylı:'' No such people as ''Azeri'' among Turks, it is made up by Stalin, who is an ignorant Georgian.''