Turkey’s S-400 vs F-35 dilemma in 2019

[UkroTurk]

Israeli friends has shown us how desperate and helpless russky systems are
If someone hears me , I choose F35!!!
Hey anybody there?

 

[Imran Khan]

i hate to say it but f35

 

[zzzz]

Ok.
Then don’t pull out, stick with the Russian shit, no F35s and you’ll get more US sanctions. If Russian sanctions ruined Turkish tourism and agrarian sector, imagine what we’re capable of. If we’re not trustworthy partner, kick us out of incirlik and our diplomatic staff.
Bottom line, you got yourself into this mess figure out how to get out of it.
Besides, you’re not a Turk, no need for “us” or “we”

Please stop crying already. Be a man. You should get used to spanking and punishment. Thats is the only cure to "exceptionalism". You will receive more in more of that medicine in future.
Accept the humilation and deliver F-35 to Turkey. Or get yourself kicked outta there. Your choice

 

[MKALE1]

Israeli friends has shown us how desperate and helpless russky systems are
If someone hears me , I choose F35!!!
Hey anybody there?

Your post is animation but these are real.

Israel is a paper tiger, and one day she will get harsh smash from resistance front. There were 3 warship hit by hezbollah in 2006. And there are many western warships hit by houthis in yemen offshore. Maybe you can explain why "zuper" western-israeli technology failed as a fan of israel?

https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3458845,00.html

 

[UkroTurk]

Your post is animation but these are real.

Israel is a paper tiger, and one day she will get harsh smash from resistance front. There were 3 warship hit by hezbollah in 2006. And there are many western warships hit by houthis in yemen offshore. Maybe you can explain why "zuper" western-israeli technology failed as a fan of israel?

https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3458845,00.html

Okay you have perceived me. As a fan of anti-semitism , Do you have any offers from Iran?? Would you like Turkey to purchase made in Iran fighters or frigates? Wait you might go for Saudi fighters if your Padişah got on well with them.

 

[MKALE1]

Okay you have perceived me. As a fan of anti-semitism , Do you have any offers from Iran?? Would you like Turkey to purchase made in Iran fighters or frigates? Wait you might go for Saudi fighters if your Padişah got on well with them.

I am tired of your time wasting idea. You defended israeli technology by an animation and giving the shit to russian S400 (aklınca). And i gave you a brief history lesson how western-israeli assss were (/are) kicked once upon a time.

I choose S400, technologically and politically best option for our national interest, if there will only one option we need to chose.

I am not anti-semitic, i dont care jewish religion. I am just seeing israel as a threat to my nation.

 

[UkroTurk]

I am tired of your time wasting idea. You defended israeli technology by an animation and giving the shit to russian S400 (aklınca). And i gave you a brief history lesson how western-israeli assss were (/are) kicked once upon a time.

I choose S400, technologically and politically best option for our national interest, if there will only one option we need to chose.

I am not anti-semitic, i dont care jewish religion. I am just seeing israel as a threat to my nation.

You chose because your padişah had chosen. I am also tired of people claiming being wise and professional electronic expert.
S400 the best airdefence system may be in the world and the best solution for you as long as Relationships between Putin and your Tayyip is well. Unless they are friends , s400 will suddenly be the worst and the Ameriga and Saudians will be friend of Sunnith Muslims.
What kind of intellectuals you are, how could you sucrifice and choose over the project you contribute 26 billions of amarigan dollars .
Still says" Israel weapons can't destroy s400 because they are our enemies".

 

[CAN_TR]

S-400 has never proved itself, on the other hand Turkey's benefits from the F-35 project are really "tempting".
Our "Production & Industrial Participation is expected to reach more than $12 billion USD.", Turkey will get all it's 100+ F-35 for "peanuts".
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We will complete all SAM projects (HISAR A/O/U, SIPER and GUMS) in what? max. 8-10 years? And let's not forget our AAW Frigates/Destroyers.

We can't wait till TF-X. It's "ready" 203X... in that time Israel, Greece and Egypt's Air Force will be upgraded with F-35, F-16 Viper and Dassault Rafales.


S-400 or F-35 is a serious decision, there is no place for emotions.

 

[Nein]

You chose because your padişah had chosen. I am also tired of people claiming being wise and professional electronic expert.
S400 the best airdefence system may be in the world and the best solution for you as long as Relationships between Putin and your Tayyip is well. Unless they are friends , s400 will suddenly be the worst and the Ameriga and Saudians will be friend of Sunnith Muslims.
What kind of intellectuals you are, how could you sucrifice and choose over the project you contribute 26 billions of amarigan dollars .
Still says" Israel weapons can't destroy s400 because they are our enemies".

Turkey paid all that money for the F35 and all it takes for the USA to confiscate it just like the dreadnoughts which the Ottoman Empire bought only for it to be confiscated by Britain.

S400 and F35 are both needed for Turkey the point is which should Turkey choose. A lot Turks dont trust the Usa because lets be honest they going to pull some reason to take the F35s away.

 

[UkroTurk]

Turkey paid all that money for the F35 and all it takes for the USA to confiscate it just like the dreadnoughts which the Ottoman Empire bought only for it to be confiscated by Britain.

S400 and F35 are both needed for Turkey the point is which should Turkey choose. A lot Turks dont trust the Usa because lets be honest they going to pull some reason to take the F35s away.

How did you know Turkey had paid?
Turkish defence industry is partner of F35 project and we produce parts for this project amount of 25 billion. If we didn't buy , we would keep being a just supplier which would mean clean benefits for us.
We need F35s not because of our payments or money , we need them because F35 is the most advanced aircraft in the world.
To be honest I would argue about s400s capability and effectivenes. S400 system are much more complicated than it seems.
İndeed a s400 system has several radars and parts which evens out several patriots. Remember please that from long distance (400km)it is hard to cover lower surface. Furthermore not all s400 missiles have 400 or 250 km range.
İt's also renowned for it's radar but comparing threats to Turkey, ican't see any additional advantages from patriots or Europeans.
I would rather be suspicious both of two countries.

 

[Nein]

How did you know Turkey had paid?
Turkish defence industry is partner of F35 project and we produce parts for this project amount of 25 billion. If we didn't buy , we would keep being a just supplier which would mean clean benefits for us.
We need F35s not because of our payments or money , we need them because F35 is the most advanced aircraft in the world.
To be honest I would argue about s400s capability and effectivenes. S400 system are much more complicated than it seems.
İndeed a s400 system has several radars and parts which evens out several patriots. Remember please that from long distance (400km)it is hard to cover lower surface. Furthermore not all s400 missiles have 400 or 250 km range.
İt's also renowned for it's radar but comparing threats to Turkey, ican't see any additional advantages from patriots or Europeans.
I would rather be suspicious both of two countries.

I can see why Armenian, Jewish and Greek lobbies are trying to block the F35 if Turkey gets that Jet they are going to become a Uber Air force in the region thats for sure.

 

[CAN_TR]

Turkish pilots in F-35s

https://twitter.com/x/status/1100751539994533888

 

[Mithridates]

my vote is s400 cause turkey already has a powerful airforce but her air defence well, not really good. also turkey should pump money to the domestic 5th generation fighter and sue US because of it's actions like we did against russia in s300 issues.

 

[MKALE1]

my vote is s400 cause turkey already has a powerful airforce but her air defence well, not really good. also turkey should pump money to the domestic 5th generation fighter and sue US because of it's actions like we did against russia in s300 issues.

Thanks irani brother, most reasonable comment here.

 

[UzaySan]

my vote is s400 cause turkey already has a powerful airforce but her air defence well, not really good. also turkey should pump money to the domestic 5th generation fighter and sue US because of it's actions like we did against russia in s300 issues.

We are developing 5th gen fighter thats why we need F-35. You can understand better something you can touch. Also we cannot sue them because F-35 is not an international project. Also if we gave up on s400 usa have something to replace it(patriot) But if we gave up on f-35 russia doesnt have somthing to replace f-35