Turkey’s S-400 vs F-35 dilemma in 2019

[Oublious]

I would not trust Huawei, to be honest.

iphone i do not trust to and google.

 

[Bismarck]

iphone i do not trust to and google.

Of course, but we talk about a state institution. Not a private thing.

 

[MKALE1]

Of course, but we talk about a state institution. Not a private thing.

Only reason of this war over Huawei is their increasing market share and their success, nothing else.
Usa and western states always fighting dirty in trade, this is really embarrassment.

 

[Bismarck]

Only reason of this war over Huawei is their increasing market share and their success, nothing else.
Usa and western states always fighting dirty in trade, this is really embarrassment.

Are you sure about Huawei? Do you really trust China ?

 

[MKALE1]

Are you sure about Huawei? Do you really trust China ?

Sure what? Huawei success apparent.
And Enemy of enemy is my friend.

 

[Mucahit]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1097119651258077185

 

[TheMightyBender]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-turkey-usa-defense-idUSKCN1Q90UQ

Ismail demir: 2 more F-35 jets to be delivered to Turkey next month.

 

[xbat]

Ismail demir: 2 more F-35 jets to be delivered to Turkey next month.

technically those 2 f35 would still stay as american property until US Government officially hand them over to Turkish goverment. That delivery is only symbolic, from LM to turkish military personnel in usa.

Turkey doesnt have any F35 yet.

 

[azyr]

technically those 2 f35 would still stay as american property until US Government officially hand them over to Turkish goverment. That delivery is only symbolic, from LM to turkish military personnel in usa.

Turkey doesnt have any F35 yet.

No, the US government has green lit the handover hence why LM was able to give them to the Turkish soldiers in the US.

At the moment, the 2 planes in the US airbase are actually property of Turkey. They have the same status as a Anka drone in that airbase would have.

Having said that, this is the US we are talking about, and they will forcefully seize the planes if they don't get their way. This is the current situation.

Why did the US government approve of the handover if they weren't satisfied with Turkey's actions?
Simply put, this whole thing is a huge charade. The US can not afford to cut Turkey off from this F-35 program because it will be the beginning of the end for the most ambitious and controversial program to date. There's also diplomatic repercussions, which are again quite hefty.

The US government may be many things, but (ironically) stupid isn't one of them. They're playing their hand as far as they can go while assessing if their reputation can take the hit of actually seizing a NATO allies plane while at the same time cutting the same ally from a program they've been involved with since the inception. Remember, the only reason for all of this is an AA purchase from Russia, not war, not war with other allies or any other big situation that might warrant such an action.

You also have to take in consideration that Germany have said no to this same plane and are spearheading a new European fighter to meet the needs of mainland Europe.

All of this together puts the US between a rock and a very hard place. The issue is not the US vs Turkey, it's the US reputation (which has become near trash since Trump took over) at stake here and it might push the whole world to increasingly shun her.

 

[xbat]

Sir! Turkey doesnt have any F35 officially, if US government doesnt want to send those f35 to Turkey, they would do only cancel sales agreement not seize of foreign property. is it clear? rest is unrelated for now.

 

[MKALE1]

Sir! Turkey doesnt have any F35 officially, if US government doesnt want to send those f35 to Turkey, they would do only cancel sales agreement not seize of foreign property. is it clear? rest is unrelated for now.

Are you kidding? We paid 3,7 billion for f35s to mafia state USA, how can you say there is no seize of foreing property?? Are you drunk?

 

[xbat]

i am not drunk, no matter how much Turkey paid, US government didnt hand them over yet, thats all.

 

[monitor]

Babak Taghvaee‏ @BabakTaghvaee
#BREAKING: Following to an old plan dating back to 2018, #LockheedMartin will buy #Turkey's six F-35As to sell them to #Israel in 2020. Today, #US President #Trump signed a bill for blocking delivery of F-35As to #Turkey till Nov. in case of S-400 SAM delivery by #Russia in July.

3:18 PM - 19 Feb 2019

 

[TheMightyBender]

Babak Taghvaee‏ @BabakTaghvaee
#BREAKING: Following to an old plan dating back to 2018, #LockheedMartin will buy #Turkey's six F-35As to sell them to #Israel in 2020. Today, #US President #Trump signed a bill for blocking delivery of F-35As to #Turkey till Nov. in case of S-400 SAM delivery by #Russia in July.

3:18 PM - 19 Feb 2019

This guy also says that Hezbollah trafficks drugs in Latin America and that fall of Maduro will result in fall of current governments in Turkey and Iran... so I dunno... he’s probably missing some cells in the brainary area

 

[WarDaddy97]

This guy also says that Hezbollah trafficks drugs in Latin America and that fall of Maduro will result in fall of current governments in Turkey and Iran... so I dunno... he’s probably missing some cells in the brainary area

Yes you dunno, because you don’t follow news. Trump did sign a bill blocking F35 to Turkey.

https://www.congress.gov/116/bills/hjres31/BILLS-116hjres31enr.pdf

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.breakingisraelnews.com/122547/trump-blocks-f-35-sale/amp/

Walk away from S400.