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Like i said before 2017.
Turkeys Acquisition of The F-35 JSF
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I started to think US purposely throw these lies inorder to increase unit cost of F-35... By this way they will make much more money...
F-35 savaş uçaklarında sorun bitmiyor
F-35 savaş uçaklarında sorun bitmiyor
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Doesnt make sense to me, why would the price increse? Besides why would they damage the credibility of their own products? Its allready expensive enough and some partner countrys allready reduced their orders so i dont think they would the sabotage their own business.
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are this many failures normal, even for the US?
Anyway, better they test the plane thoroughly instead of rushing it, selling it, crashing it, losing their credibility even more, angry customers etc.
Anyway, better they test the plane thoroughly instead of rushing it, selling it, crashing it, losing their credibility even more, angry customers etc.
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You know, this had been too much... Countless times these kind of problems occured... Also this is US, they have top technology, R&D background, economical power etc...
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Well F-35 is a high tech machine it isnt easy to develop such things, it has probably more electronics than all fighter planes before combined.You know, this had been too much... Countless times these kind of problems occured... Also this is US, they have top technology, R&D background, economical power etc...
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US to resume F-35 flights after fighter jets were grounded over engine failure
Pentagon says radar-evading jet, which costs about $400bn, is set for limited flights before potential international buyers
US military officials have approved limited flights for Lockheed Martin's F-35 fighter jets, improving the chances of the newest US combat jet making its international debut before potential buyers this week.
The F-35, the world's most expensive weapons project with a price tag of about $400bn, has been grounded since the massive failure of the Pratt & Whitney engine on a US air force F-35 plane at a Florida air base on 23 June.
Pentagon spokesman Rear Admiral John Kirby said on Tuesday US air force and navy officials had granted the radar-evading jet a limited flight clearance that required engine inspections and carried restrictions on its flights. No details about the restrictions were immediately available.
Kirby said the lifting of a fleetwide grounding order was encouraging, and US officials remained hopeful that the F-35 could make its international debut at this week's Farnborough air show, but no decision had been made.
The jet's failure to appear at a big military air show in Britain last week and its absence from the first days of the Farnborough event in southern England have been a blow for US officials and their international partners, who were hoping to showcase the capabilities of the new multi-role fighter.
Global orders for the F-35 are expected to exceed 3,000, with Italy, Turkey, Canada and Australia among the US allies planning to purchase the plane.
Lockheed and Pratt welcomed the US decision to lift the grounding order, but referred all questions to the Pentagon's F-35 program office.
Matthew Bates, spokesman for Pratt & Whitney, said the company had great confidence in the F135 engine it builds for the new fighter jet and had worked closely with the military to return the jet to flying status.
"It would be great for the jets to come to the Farnborough Air Show so the audience here can see the capabilities the F-35 brings to the US and our partners," Bates said.
Top executives from the biggest contractors involved in the F-35 program have traveled to Britain for the plane's foreign debut, which had appeared in doubt until Tuesday's news.
Four US marine corps jets are waiting to take off for Britain from a Maryland air base as soon as they are cleared to do so. Officials are studying the flight restrictions to determine if the jets could fly to Britain.
The planes were slated to follow a route relatively close to the US and Canadian coast, up past Greenland before heading to Europe, rather than a direct flight across the Atlantic, according to sources familiar with the plans.
Kirby gave no details about the restrictions and engine inspections, but said they would remain in effect until the root cause of the 23 June engine failure was identified and corrected. "Safety remains the overriding priority," he said.
Air force lieutenant general Chris Bogdan had told reporters on Monday that US officials were "not giving up" on trying to bring the F-35 to Britain.
Sources familiar with the matter said the decision to lift the grounding order was made at a high-level meeting on Monday, and reflected growing evidence the engine failure was a one-off event and not due to a systemic or fundamental design flaw.
Pentagon acquisition chief Frank Kendall told reporters on Monday that no similar problems had been found on any of the other 98 engines in service, and underscored that the program was still in the development stage when technical problems are meant to be found and fixed.
Pratt President Paul Adams told Reuters in an interview at the air show that the F135 engine failure, and a separate incident in May involving its CSeries commercial engine, were unrelated and did not point to a larger problem at the company.
Adams, who took over as president in January, said it had been a "challenging few weeks", but said both engines were still going through the developmental stage that is aimed at flushing out problems and resolving them.
US to resume F-35 flights after fighter jets were grounded over engine failure | World news | theguardian.com
Pentagon says radar-evading jet, which costs about $400bn, is set for limited flights before potential international buyers
US military officials have approved limited flights for Lockheed Martin's F-35 fighter jets, improving the chances of the newest US combat jet making its international debut before potential buyers this week.
The F-35, the world's most expensive weapons project with a price tag of about $400bn, has been grounded since the massive failure of the Pratt & Whitney engine on a US air force F-35 plane at a Florida air base on 23 June.
Pentagon spokesman Rear Admiral John Kirby said on Tuesday US air force and navy officials had granted the radar-evading jet a limited flight clearance that required engine inspections and carried restrictions on its flights. No details about the restrictions were immediately available.
Kirby said the lifting of a fleetwide grounding order was encouraging, and US officials remained hopeful that the F-35 could make its international debut at this week's Farnborough air show, but no decision had been made.
The jet's failure to appear at a big military air show in Britain last week and its absence from the first days of the Farnborough event in southern England have been a blow for US officials and their international partners, who were hoping to showcase the capabilities of the new multi-role fighter.
Global orders for the F-35 are expected to exceed 3,000, with Italy, Turkey, Canada and Australia among the US allies planning to purchase the plane.
Lockheed and Pratt welcomed the US decision to lift the grounding order, but referred all questions to the Pentagon's F-35 program office.
Matthew Bates, spokesman for Pratt & Whitney, said the company had great confidence in the F135 engine it builds for the new fighter jet and had worked closely with the military to return the jet to flying status.
"It would be great for the jets to come to the Farnborough Air Show so the audience here can see the capabilities the F-35 brings to the US and our partners," Bates said.
Top executives from the biggest contractors involved in the F-35 program have traveled to Britain for the plane's foreign debut, which had appeared in doubt until Tuesday's news.
Four US marine corps jets are waiting to take off for Britain from a Maryland air base as soon as they are cleared to do so. Officials are studying the flight restrictions to determine if the jets could fly to Britain.
The planes were slated to follow a route relatively close to the US and Canadian coast, up past Greenland before heading to Europe, rather than a direct flight across the Atlantic, according to sources familiar with the plans.
Kirby gave no details about the restrictions and engine inspections, but said they would remain in effect until the root cause of the 23 June engine failure was identified and corrected. "Safety remains the overriding priority," he said.
Air force lieutenant general Chris Bogdan had told reporters on Monday that US officials were "not giving up" on trying to bring the F-35 to Britain.
Sources familiar with the matter said the decision to lift the grounding order was made at a high-level meeting on Monday, and reflected growing evidence the engine failure was a one-off event and not due to a systemic or fundamental design flaw.
Pentagon acquisition chief Frank Kendall told reporters on Monday that no similar problems had been found on any of the other 98 engines in service, and underscored that the program was still in the development stage when technical problems are meant to be found and fixed.
Pratt President Paul Adams told Reuters in an interview at the air show that the F135 engine failure, and a separate incident in May involving its CSeries commercial engine, were unrelated and did not point to a larger problem at the company.
Adams, who took over as president in January, said it had been a "challenging few weeks", but said both engines were still going through the developmental stage that is aimed at flushing out problems and resolving them.
US to resume F-35 flights after fighter jets were grounded over engine failure | World news | theguardian.com
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With the changing outlook on turkish and US relations, i don´t think USA will allow Turkey to get F-35.
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Why are you posting that?
USA can change their logistic at will. At any time. The other JSF partners are more than pleased to take over Turkeys Workshare.
USA can change their logistic at will. At any time. The other JSF partners are more than pleased to take over Turkeys Workshare.
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Others are thinking about reducing the number of orders, Turkey will replace its F4 fleet with at least 100 F-35, besides we are part of this program since 90s and just last month they opened a engine factory for F-35 in Turkey, but i will leave you that dream.
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you are wasting money I think turkey is in wrong way future is for uavs it's a good plane just for die hard movie
pilot has no down side view you should repair exhaust after some hours flying f-35 is out of date now at 2014
pilot has no down side view you should repair exhaust after some hours flying f-35 is out of date now at 2014
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I don't mean this as a critical comment toward Turkey.
The "You are a level 3 partner!" thing just sounds so Amway. Did they give away tote bags for a "Level 3" commitment? Seriously, just sell the planes or don't.
Sheez! Marketing drones!
The "You are a level 3 partner!" thing just sounds so Amway. Did they give away tote bags for a "Level 3" commitment? Seriously, just sell the planes or don't.
Sheez! Marketing drones!
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A half of world might not be going in wrong way , while its assument by strategy experts F-35 believed to take a half of multi-role fighter market in next decade.
We are also proceeding toward for UAV , and UCAV , i guess it will be simultaneously developed along TF-X by outcomes received from high budget TF-X project.
About down-side view , As far as i know F-35 has helmet mounted 360 degree vision provided by cameras mounted on plane. Its a concortium project carrier by western countries to replace their aging fleet, and yes last manned fighter for US but still will be used until late 2040s
Level 3 means alot actually, there are parts going to be produced in turkey , and it will give us ability for manufacturing with advanced techs.
When supply of future spare parts and modules for manufacturing current demands will give an offset , so while we are spending 13 billion $ , we will gain this money back in some way . Additionally , cooperation, prestige and manufacturing abilities gained for free.
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New generation AMRAAM to boost Turkey’s air firepower
The medium-range air-to-air missiles to be outfitted to Turkey’s F-16 and F-35 fighter jets will come with a price tag of $320 million
Advanced medium-range air-to-air missiles (AMRAAM) is also the baseline missile for the NATO-approved Norwegian Advanced Surface-to-Air Missile System.
Advanced medium-range air-to-air missiles (AMRAAM) is also the baseline missile for the NATO-approved Norwegian Advanced Surface-to-Air Missile System.
A new generation of advanced medium-range air-to-air missiles (AMRAAM) that Turkey will acquire from the United States will significantly upgrade and boost the country’s aerial firepower, according to Air Force officials.
“Perhaps the most important feature about the new weaponry is that they will be used both in our F-16 fighters and the future F-35s,” one senior official said.
A defense official said the new version features more sensitive guidance, adding to a fleet’s firepower.
This will be Turkey’s third order of the AMRAAM family of missiles. The first deliveries were made about a decade ago, while the second order is presently being delivered. A procurement official said the deliveries of the new-generation missiles could take a few years. Last month, the U.S. Defense Security Cooperation Agency approved a possible sale to Turkey for 145 AIM-120C-7 advanced medium-range air-to-air missiles and associated equipment. That sale would be worth an estimated $320 million.
Those missiles will be used on the Turkish Air Force’s fleet of F-16 fighters, although the DSCA notice adds that they could also be used on the country’s eventual F-35 fleet.
The weapons will help “maintain the TAF’s air-to-air capability to defend its extensive coastline and borders against future threat,” according to DSCA. Raytheon would produce the equipment.
The State Department’s clearance for the sale is subject to congressional approval and further negotiations between Turkey and the United States.
The AMRAAM is a modern beyond-visual-range air-to-air missile capable of all-weather day-and-night operations. Designed with the same form-and-fit factors as the previous generation of semi-active guided Sparrow missiles, it is a fire-and-forget missile with active guidance.
The AIM-120C-7 development began in 1998 and included improvements in homing and greater range. It was successfully tested in 2003 and is currently being produced for both the U.S. and other militaries.
It helped the U.S. Navy replace the F-14 Tomcats with F/A-18E/F Super Hornets – the loss of the F-14’s long-range AIM-54 Phoenix missiles, already retired, is offset with a longer-range AMRAAM-D. The lighter weight of the advanced AMRAAM enables an F/A-18E/F pilot greater bring-back weight upon carrier landings.
New generation AMRAAM to boost Turkey’s air firepower - DEFENSE UPDATE
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