Turkey versus U.S. (Video analysis)

[CAN_TR]

We're in a different era of warfare from the 1920's, a time where manpower was a lot more relevant.

You know that the enemies outnumbered Turkish forces in the Independence war?

 

[Taskforce]

WW1 mentality was trench warfare. Try that today and won’t even hear the drones coming before busting in thousand pieces. We really need to let go of this ego thing and be realistic.

 

[Nein]

WW1 mentality was trench warfare. Try that today and won’t even hear the drones coming before busting in thousand pieces. We really need to let go of this ego thing and be realistic.

Stop being a pussy. Not all of World War 1 was trench warfare.

 

[Taskforce]

Atatürk understood the importance of being realistic. He also said that the battles will be fought in the skies. Currently Turkey’s Air Force is in dire situation and there is still Feto in the Air Force. At the same time procurement of s400 is too late. When true enemy gets control of the air space it will be over.

 

[Nein]

This is why I recommend Turkey getting nukes.

 

[cabatli_53]

@cabatli_53 why dont you just lock this utterly nonsense thread instead of getting headaches?

Bro, Related with thread, The problem is about attitude of thread starter with putting a terrorist organization into the center of subject as If Turkey is that weak which is not able to deal with this organization. Principaly, It is possible in that scenario because US is arming those terrorists like hell and establishing a huge base in there but Believing that YPG can give harm to Turkey in favour of US is utterly nonsense and stupid. Out of that subject, US/Turkey defense/attacking assets, strategies, tactics, possibility of hitting US bases/carriers to tie their hands in a likely war scenarios can be discussed with a pleasure in this thread. With this way, We can find opportunity to check Chinese examples and their assets developed to hit US carriers or What Taiwan or Japany does to deal with China. Those are good subjects to discuss in a military related forum. What I am trying to do is to motivate members to discuss military related subject inside the respect line. We all have similar sensitivity for national matters but Banning left and right in order to satisfy a big head’s personal wishes is not a good moderation. MoDs should provide a healty environment members to make good conversations in any subject related with the nature of this forum.

 

[Fenasi Kerim]

There is some point though, in a hypothetical invasion US forces would face a heavy defense, not only military vise mind you, i doubt US would be able to land a big enough force to invade Anatolia permanently.
Study WWI and invasion of Anatolia by multiple superpowers of the time against a backwards and unorganized Ottoman empire.



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And war of Independence, notice how many fronts.

Arabs won’t understand they fought such a war, never will slave mentality would open up there legs.

Thank you for this I have saved these images.

 

[Taskforce]

YPG is no match for Turkey. I already said this. I’m talking about the scenario where the US bombs us to the Stone Age and destroys all heavy equipment and at the same time gives these heavy equipment to YPG for free. Look at Syria. Imagine the US multiplying their support to YPG by a factor of 200 and at the same time implementing a no fly zone + continuous air support.

 

[Timur]

that is a nonsense senario..

the us would not do the job alone if anything of this would happen then you have to consider turkey is not a small country nor we are in small numbers.. also you can bet US alone would never attack.. they would form a coalition like the iraq war but unlike iraq we have a mountainious region huge population so no occupation will happen and if they try it will be bloody..

it would be like this: US + Kanada + EU + Some Gulfies + japan + some others..
but then you have the problem with EU they dont want more refugees, specially not 20-30 million turkish refugees in EU..

before all war operations, they would sanction us to death like iran.. this would take <>20 years so our weapons and infra structure will be weakened or old.. americans are famous for just attacking starved or weak countries specially outnumbered countries.. and they never come alone..

and I do not think that anybody would come to help.. maybe some money but nothing big special..

and I didn't consider any ypg or pkk or lelelele leee wannabe gorilla they are no match even if they get abrahams certain regions would be expelled into syria or iraq if they went so far

 

[cabatli_53]

@Fenasi Kerim Derdini anlatırken bile kural ihlali yapıyorsun. Kendine hakim olmak bu kadar zor mu senin için? Kaç kere daha iletilerini silmem gerekecek? Adamlar öyle yapıypr sen sövdüğünde ne değişiyo? Bahsettiğin mevzular forumun başka bölümlerinde gerçekleşmiş anlaşılan, mevzular bu bölümde gerçekleşmediyse bu zaten bu bölümün duruşunun ne olduğunu gösterir mahiyettedir. ME sectionı burayla kıyaslama orada bilinçli olarak üyeler serbest bırakılıyor bir nevi Waff olmuş. Ben de birçok kere birçoğuyla tartıştım biliyorsun ve Mod olmama rağmen ve şikayet etmeme rağmen kimse çıkıp adam gibi Me sectionı düzeltmedi. Bunların niyetlerinin ne olduğunu okuyabilmek zor değil ama çıkıp bu adamlar başka bir yerde böyle konuştular diye ben burada durduk yere kimseye ban veremem. Oyununkuralına göre oynamak lazım. Eğer mevzu niyetlere göre ceza vermek ise ME sectionda yazan üyelerin %80ine ban vermek lazım. Böyle saçma iş olur mu. Sana da son uyarımdır bir kere daha küfür ve argo kelime kullanırsan uyarı alcaksın. Bilgin olsun...

 

[Nein]

Americans are so tough am I right just to fight Isis terrorists they called upon a world coalition.

For sure against Turkey they would call upon a world coalition.

Shows once again USA despite being the most powerful country still uses allies to invade a country weaker than them.

American should realise Turkey is no pushover. For sure if Usa attacked Turkey majority of the countries of the world would get sick of USA attacking and invading countries.

Only idiots that would celebrate are kurdish, armenian and greek monkeys.

Greek monkeys still dream of taking back Istanbul but cant as they want the Russians or the Americans to do it. These idiots even have a prophecy that Russia will invade Turkey and give Istanbul to them Lmaoooooooo

 

[Saddam Hussein]

Arabs won’t understand they fought such a war, never will slave mentality would open up there legs.

Thank you for this I have saved these images.

Nearly every comment from the Arab obsessed boy is about rape, opening legs, sucking cocks. Trash and disrespectful to women in the first place.

That aside you're the one hosting Americans whom are openly aiding the PKK, where's the honor in that? Recep Tayyip makes a few speeches about it but accepts it like a little boy..

 

[Nein]

Nearly every comment from the Arab obsessed boy is about rape, opening legs, sucking cocks. Trash and disrespectful to women in the first place.

That aside you're the one hosting Americans whom are openly aiding the PKK, where's the honor in that? Recep Tayyip makes a few speeches about it but accepts it like a little boy..

One of the reasons why so many here are critical of RTE.

He is all talk and no action and its due to him Turkey became a pushover.

 

[dBSPL]

If you try to destroy turkey from outside, it reveals the necessity to stand up in this country and you make it impossible. After that, everybody must be understand topographic and geographic features of the border which Turkey withdrew. Anatolia is our new Ergenekon. Within the existing global power projections, No force will be able to occupy Turkey alone. No economy can afford this. This situation can produces destructive results around world. Economically and politically...

Today's advanced military countries have a multilayered defense organizations and forceful persuasion character. International balances are the most important factor here, but postmodern combat conditions, like asymmetric warfare and proxy structures can be used as attack instruments. The main issue is the penetration capability by these premise forces for target country. If a war simulation is to make, it should be considered in this respect. Also it require the ability to maintain an advanced defense doctrine under isolation , which is one of the best subjects of the Turks.

Ps: So, what would be real consequences of a battle simulation which they won on paper?

 

[Fenasi Kerim]

Nearly every comment from the Arab obsessed boy is about rape, opening legs, sucking cocks. Trash and disrespectful to women in the first place.

That aside you're the one hosting Americans whom are openly aiding the PKK, where's the honor in that? Recep Tayyip makes a few speeches about it but accepts it like a little boy..

Big words from an Iraqi who’s country got invaded by the US, still houses and a lot more unwanted guests, like Turkey.

Don’t act as if you don’t know geopolitics, you Arabs keep barking about US bases in Turkey, tell that story someone else, your Pakistani friends might fall for it.