Turkey Should Align With China

[Beast]

There's no need for more.

Precisely, I agree....

 

[yex]

Precisely, I agree....

i think turkey and china alliance will be a burden to china.

Allying with trouble maker. invader of others country is always a burden!

 

[Oublious]

We shall leave each other alone. Alliance is impossible.

when you imperialist smell money you will sell everything and come...

 

[Beast]

when you imperialist smell money you will sell everything and come...

Lol.. J-20 and Type99A mbt is never for sale. That is why we have water down version of J-31 and VT-4 MBT.

 

[dani92]

Chinese are pussies, no offence. That's why they have built KMs long walls to hide behind and they will never change. They can't engage US and Russia in any military conflict. Russians have balls at least. I would choose Russia over China in anyday for an ally. Even Brundi is better.

But these pussies kicked you out many times and crushed your states many times

 

[vi-va]

But these pussies kicked you out many times and crushed your states many times

1,Modern Turkey has little to do with ancient Turks (古突厥, Göktürks) in Northern China.
2,Modern Turkey people DNA is mixed with Mongols, Persians, Europeans, Arabs and many others.
3,Modern Turkey people language has changed a lot, the Ottoman Empire Turkish official language was an Oghuz Turkic language highly influenced by Persian and Arabic.
4,Modern Turkey people culture is completely different. Ancient Turks (古突厥, Göktürks) are tribes, nomadic confederation. They believe some Prehistoric Religion.
5,Ancient Turks (古突厥, Göktürks) has no written history by themselves. Chinese wrote their history, and modern Turkey translated our book and link themselves to Göktürks.
6,According to the Book of Zhou and the History of the Northern Dynasties, the Ashina clan was a component of the Xiongnu confederation.

 

[damm1t]

1,Modern Turkey has little to do with ancient Turks (古突厥, Göktürks) in Northern China.

Maybe no direct bond left now but who cares. Consider that Usa has also no one nation but there is a "American patriotism" that people belong themselves to the Usa identity. Ataturk once said "he is a Turk who feels like a Turk". Nobody will go to DNA test to prove or unprove it because we feel the blood. We are the last part of a huge chain starting from Altai steppes to Anatolia.

2,Modern Turkey people DNA is mixed with Mongols, Persians, Europeans, Arabs and many others.

I agree with this one, after conquering half of the earth and run nations, it's quiet normal some change, isn't it?. Only ex-Ottoman lands hosts 50+ countries right now. But someone was hiding behind the walls during all history long...

3,Modern Turkey people language has changed a lot, the Ottoman Empire Turkish official language was an Oghuz Turkic language highly influenced by Persian and Arabic.

What makes a language is not the words that you have borrowed from other cultures. Turkish grammer and language system remains same as it was 2 millenium ago but it's true that we have foreign words we use in Turkey Turkish.

4,Modern Turkey people culture is completely different. Ancient Turks (古突厥, Göktürks) are tribes, nomadic confederation. They believe some Prehistoric Religion.

Agree with this one, number 2's answer should be applied to this part too. After Turks switched to Islam lot's of things are changed.

5,Ancient Turks (古突厥, Göktürks) has no written history by themselves. Chinese wrote their history, and modern Turkey translated our book and link themselves to Göktürks.

They were a fighter and nomad nation. It's the reason such things were not developed so soon. Still Gokturks had a writing system and a lecture independent from other Asians.

6,According to the Book of Zhou and the History of the Northern Dynasties, the Ashina clan was a component of the Xiongnu confederation.

And according to me, Chinese still pussy.

But these pussies kicked you out many times and crushed your states many times

lol

 

[beijingwalker]

Turks should really learn some history, first Great Wall was built during the warring states period, over 2500 years ago, long long... before turks became a nation, last Great wall ( the one you posted) was built in Ming dynasty around 600 years ago, long long after your anecstors being kicked out of their ancestrol land in north China by our ancestors.

 

[damm1t]

Turks should really learn some history, first Great Wall was built during the warring states period, over 2500 years ago, long long... before turks became a nation, last Great wall ( the one you posted) was built in Ming dynasty around 600 years ago, long long after your anecstors being kicked out of their ancestrol land in north China by our ancestors.

I don't care how many walls you built they all serve one purpose...

 

[zectech]

i think turkey and china alliance will be a burden to china.

Allying with trouble maker. invader of others country is always a burden!

The world needs regionalism to break up the hated hegemony of Amerika. Nobody likes Amerika now. We need the rise of Germany, Italy, Turkey, China, Vietnam, Iran, Korea, Japan and many other nations to be regional powers that guard more vulnerable countries like Syria.

Erdogan and Turkey played a role in Syria that was vital to Chinese interests. Had Erdogan not sided with the FSA, the FSA would have been only a Washington puppet, and had the FSA won over Assad, Syria would be a puppet of Washington and this isn't good for Chinese interests. Enter scene Erdogan, he sided with the rebels and Syria instead would have been in the sphere of influence of Ankara, not Washington. So the invasion by Turkey is actually defending Assad and defending freedom in the world, and this benefits China. Assad is taking more territory from PKK because of Erdogan.

Russia is a troublemaker, but serves as a genie in a bottle. Putin took part in the genocide of 25% of the civilian population of Chechens. That is a troublemaker. Imagine China setting up gas chambers for Uighurs and murdering 25% of the population there, it is unheard of, that is what Putin did... and Russia only is there to serve us. The zionists own Moscow and are trying to have the choice between zionist Washington or zionist Moscow. These are bad options.

 

[beijingwalker]

I don't care how many walls you built they all serve one purpose...

As if city walls and defence walls do not exist in other countries, all civilizations had walls big or small built to defend them, uncivilized nomads don't need walls, they don't even need houses.

 

[python-000]

Isnt this what you want? Or you want to alliance with China, tell me?

my Brother dose Pakistan can make some sort of Bridge between you Two...!!!

 

[zectech]

You did NOT win WW1, nor WW2. You wait until both side exhausted and jump in the winner side.

If US confront full force Germany in WW2 directly, US will lose for sure. Just look at Vietnam War, you lose desperately and come to China for help.

Germany is much stronger than Vietnam relatively in WW2.

The Germans were not defeated in WWI. Their allies Bulgaria cried for peace when their front in Greece collapsed. And then the Turks shortly after sued for peace. And the the Austrians did the same in leaving the war. If Bulgaria asked for some German and Austrian divisions to hold off the Entente in Greece, the war would have continued. The Austrians could handle the Italians. The Ottomans focused too much on taking capitulated Russian land and not enough on defeating the traitor Arabs and the Brits.

The Germans could have handled the Western Front. But needed the full reinforcement from the Eastern Front. Germany was beating the Russians, French and British easily. They could have handled the Amerikans, Brits and French too.

The new tanks made the trench warfare more mobile. So this was a new development.

 

[damm1t]

As if city walls and defence walls do not exist .

Not world record breaking one

 

[dani92]

Maybe no direct bond left now but who cares. Consider that Usa has also no one nation but there is a "American patriotism" that people belong themselves to the Usa identity. Ataturk once said "he is a Turk who feels like a Turk". Nobody will go to DNA test to prove or unprove it because we feel the blood. We are the last part of a huge chain starting from Altai steppes to Anatolia.



I agree with this one, after conquering half of the earth and run nations, it's quiet normal some change, isn't it?. Only ex-Ottoman lands hosts 50+ countries right now. But someone was hiding behind the walls during all history long...



What makes a language is not the words that you have borrowed from other cultures. Turkish grammer and language system remains same as it was 2 millenium ago but it's true that we have foreign words we use in Turkey Turkish.



Agree with this one, number 2's answer should be applied to this part too. After Turks switched to Islam lot's of things are changed.



They were a fighter and nomad nation. It's the reason such things were not developed so soon. Still Gokturks had a writing system and a lecture independent from other Asians.



And according to me, Chinese still pussy.



lol

It doesn’t change the fact that they destroyed your gokturk empire that if we assume that you are a real türk and not some Anatolian who is only linguistically türk