Turkey ready to play role in Kashmir settlement

[janon]

India knows what allowing the people of J&K to exercise their birth right to self determination would lead to. The entire Indian nation suffers from genocidal hegemony and living in mass self inflicted denial that somehow it would be able to maintain its colonial rule of J&K against the will of the people forever. India itself was once occupied by a superpower, if that can end, the Indian occupation of J&K will end too.

Did the British allow Indians to elect their own representatives, have their own state and local and national elections, participate as equal citizens? Jammu-Kashmir is as much under "occupation" as Madhya Pradesh or Maharashtra is. In all these people, the government is by the people, for the people. Self rule. Democracy. These may be difficult concepts to understand for somebody parroting the 700K soldiers nonsense repeatedly.

 

[Kompromat]

Why,dont you want a peaceful solution?
You rather have the current situation,with a possible war in the future?

They think that maintaining the status quo will allow them to colonize kashmir against its people's will indefinitely.

 

[bhangi bava]

"What really arouses anti-India sentiments is the gargantuan security presence in the valley; over the last two decades, Kashmir has become a garrison state. There are nearly 700,000 Indian security personnel stationed in the region — one for every 20 Kashmiris, one of the highest soldier-to-civilian ratios in the world. Armed with automatic rifles, they occupy schools, hospitals, shopping centers, temples, mosques, cafes, and playgrounds."

NPR

Foreign Policy: Arundhati Roy Should Not Be Silenced : NPR

arundhati roy i rest my case horus win

 

[janon]

"What really arouses anti-India sentiments is the gargantuan security presence in the valley; over the last two decades, Kashmir has become a garrison state. There are nearly 700,000 Indian security personnel stationed in the region — one for every 20 Kashmiris, one of the highest soldier-to-civilian ratios in the world. Armed with automatic rifles, they occupy schools, hospitals, shopping centers, temples, mosques, cafes, and playgrounds."

NPR

Foreign Policy: Arundhati Roy Should Not Be Silenced : NPR

Arundhati Roy. Similarly shall I point out articles by Hamid Mir about PA or ISI? India allows everybody to voice their opinion, without riddling them with bullets. Selectively cherrypicking one dissident writer gets you nowhere.

 

[SirHatesALot]

Why,dont you want a peaceful solution?
You rather have the current situation,with a possible war in the future?

And you think turkey can help with that

 

[Kompromat]

Did the British allow Indians to elect their own representatives, have their own state and local and national elections, participate as equal citizens? Jammu-Kashmir is as much under "occupation" as Madhya Pradesh or Maharashtra is. In all these people, the government is by the people, for the people. Self rule. Democracy. These may be difficult concepts to understand for somebody parroting the 700K soldiers nonsense repeatedly.

Here is the reality of the so called 'election'.

Few and far between: security forces outnumber voters in Kashmir elections | World news | theguardian.com

 

[T-123456]

You have tried in the past. You won't be stupid enough to try it in future. If you want to, go ahead. But there is a reason why your military has not dared to openly attack India since 1971, and has outsourced fighting to non uniformed terrorists. That strategy has harmed you more than us.

What other "hard way" do you have in mind?


Indians.


We are more than happy with the status quo. Pakistan is too weak to steal our state from us by force.

If they are so weak,why not take over the whole of Pakistan,since you obviously must be very strong?

 

[SirHatesALot]

If they are so weak,why not take over the whole of Pakistan,since you obviously must be very strong?

We don't want whole Kashmir.
Read what he wrote Status quo is acceptable to us.

Only solution acceptable to us will be turning LOC as IB.

 

[Jf Thunder]

You have tried in the past. You won't be stupid enough to try it in future. If you want to, go ahead. But there is a reason why your military has not dared to openly attack India since 1971, and has outsourced fighting to non uniformed terrorists. That strategy has harmed you more than us.
What other "hard way" do you have in mind?

look when we attack, if we dont get Kashmir, we sure do damage each other alot, so better to settle peacefully, than to beat the shit out of each other? or are you afraid that the Kashmirs might choose Pakistan or Independence?

 

[livingdead]

no thanks.. use your expertise to douse the ME fire first...

 

[T-123456]

And you think turkey can help with that

Why not,you have to start somewhere and others would follow or even take over(US,EU,China,Russia).

 

[livingdead]

look when we attack, if we dont get Kashmir, we sure do damage each other alot, so better to settle peacefully, than to beat the shit out of each other? or are you afraid that the Kashmirs might choose Pakistan or Independence?

how about no. Peace is overrated...

 

[janon]

Here is the reality of the so called 'election'.

Few and far between: security forces outnumber voters in Kashmir elections | World news | theguardian.com

That was in the first phase. By the end of all phases, the registered turnout was about 50% in Jammu-Kashmir.

Indian general election, 2014 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In addition to that, there are also state elections and local body elections, which this time had the highest turnout from Kashmir ever, more than from Mumbai. Every state legislator in the Kashmir assembly is a Kashmiri, elected by Kashmiris. Just like the assembly elections of other states. So do you notice the difference from colonial British rule now?

 

[bhangi bava]

Here is the reality of the so called 'election'.

Few and far between: security forces outnumber voters in Kashmir elections | World news | theguardian.com

lol did u even read the article

kashmiri women voting

"Voting is the soul of any democratic process but when cultural, social, political and religious rights are being trampled under the boots of 600,000 security personnel then elections mean nothing," said Mirwaiz Umer Farooq a known separatis

 

[janon]

If they are so weak,why not take over the whole of Pakistan,since you obviously must be very strong?

Because we don't want to. We would move away from Pakistan, if that was physically possible. Nobody in their right minds would want an unstable, war torn country like Pak to be part of them. We have never tried to take over Pakistan - every war has been about defending ourselves, or cutting them into two.

look when we attack, if we dont get Kashmir, we sure do damage each other alot, so better to settle peacefully, than to beat the shit out of each other? or are you afraid that the Kashmirs might choose Pakistan or Independence?

Well we could make the same threat and demand your Sindh. What would be your response? Just because a neighbour threatens us with violence, doesn't mean we will give up our land and possessions - especially when we know we are stronger than them. You have tried violence in the past, and it has not worked. If you threaten violence again, we will have no choice but to respond in kind. But Kashmir rahega Hindustan.