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i hope and pray that day doesnot come when turky has to goto war against syria. may be some sane ppl from syrian army force this criminal out of his office and we don't see any pow or dead soldeirs from anyside

TARIQ
 
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Syrian Opposition Call for No-Fly Zone

Saturday, 8 October 2011


Enforcing a no-fly zone over Syria and a buffer area next to Turkey would result in unprecedented mass defections from the Syrian army and swiftly end the seven-month-old uprising, according to members of the Syrian opposition.

A senior member of the Syrian Free Army, SFA, the newly-formed organisation of soldiers who’ve defected to the opposition, said that tens of thousands of regime soldiers would be prepared to jump ship but are holding back because they fear they will be wiped out by government loyalists in the absence of protection from the international community.

“We are in contact with other divisions in the army and most want to join our ranks – but they fear mass slaughter and are waiting for the implementation of a no-fly zone and a buffer zone for safety,” said Benhal al-Aday, speaking from his base in Turkey.

According to the SFA, 12,000 soldiers have joined their ranks, with 18 brigades set up in various Syria cities.

They claim these rebel soldiers are actively engaging and ambushing security forces and the state’s shabiha (ghost) militia, but seldom confront other regular army soldiers for fear of alienating them.

Al-Aday , formerly a master sergeant in the Syrian army, and now a communications officer for the SFA, added that on desertion, the soldiers have to abandon their armoured vehicles and, carrying only light ammunition, hide in cities and suburbs. As the Syrian army was highly organised and well-armed, the only way to fight it was to adapt guerrilla-style tactics inside cities.

Most of their attacks have been on buses bringing in security reinforcements, often by planting bombs or carrying out hit-and run-attacks.

However, Deer Al-Zour, Al-Rastan and BouKamal saw street battles that raged for days with no particular side gaining the advantage. Recently, air support was called in against them in Hama, Homs, Al Rastan, Deer Al Zour and Deraa.

Meanwhile, the SFA continues to insist that the conflict is not a sectarian one.

“This is not a sectarian issue, but 90 per cent of the army is Sunni and they are trying to make it sectarian by going in and killing Syrian civilians in Sunni areas,” said the SFA source, noting that the minority Alawite faith group still controls the majority of the heavy weaponry at the disposal of the Syrian army.

“But there will be no reprisals, as we also have Alawites in our ranks who oppose the [Bashar] al-Assad regime,” he added.

The SFA’s senior leadership is based in Turkey and issues commands to the 18 rebel brigades, including the Kataeb Khaled bin Alwaleed in Homs and Kataeb al- Khashooshli and Kataeb Abu al-Fida in neighbouring cities.

The source, who defected this month and comes from Deraa, said that although they had suffered heavy losses the number of defectors was growing.

“What we try to do is halt the attacks on peaceful demonstrations, and [the regime] are losing – in Al-Rastan, we destroyed several tanks – but we don’t have bases and we stay with the people around the cities. Luckily, the Syrian terrain is helping us and works to our advantage in hiding,” he said, adding that the FSA was often wary of newcomers, fearing infiltration by the security services.

“We hope for international buffer zone, and a no-fly zone, as we need air cover to stop the spilling of civilian blood,” he concluded.

So far, the SFA say they have received no foreign assistance and depend on the weapons they’ve seized inside Syria.

However, according to Muslim Brotherhood spokesman Zuheir Salem, who is a member of the Syrian National Council, SNC – the newly formed body which aims to represent the revolution – negotiations are taking place in Ankara to try and secure foreign support.

“We are there in discussions with Turkish counterparts on many fronts, but the main work amidst all the challenges are to unite all the Syrian people and work internationally on gaining the protection of the international community with a buffer zone and a no-fly zone,” he said.

At the same time, a spokesperson for the Local Coordinating Committees, LCC, the main drivers of the protests on the ground, said that large-scale demonstrations were likely to diminish as the regime’s crackdown continued, with an 8 pm curfew now enforced over the majority of Syria.

“We went from 20-30 being killed on a Friday to that number being killed daily over the last two months and since Ramadan,” he said.

“The people are tired and feel they have made a point to the international community and it took them five months to wake up, now it is in the hand of the Syrian National Council to do the work, as they are the politicians and not us,” said the Hama-based activist, while adding that smaller, tactical demonstrations would still take place daily in several cities.

“We are in it to the end, even if it takes one year or three years,” he added. “There is no turning back now.”

Saturday, 8 October 2011

Salam Hafez for IWPR


Syrian Opposition Call for No-Fly Zone, 8 October 2011 Saturday 9:38
 
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Syria closes border gate with Turkey


Syria closed one of its border gates with Turkey and barred Turkish citizens from entering Syria following bloody clashes in the city of Qamishli, Anatolia news agency reported on Saturday.

Turks were not allowed to cross into Syria from the border gate in Nusaybin city in southeast Turkey, which is only a few kilometers away from Qamishli, the local governor Murat Girgin told Anatolia.

Syrian officials sent back people who wanted to use the gate, Anatolia said.

Syrian security forces killed at least two mourners and wounded several others when they fired on the funeral of murdered Kurdish opposition figure Meshaal Tamo in Qamishli in northern Syria on Saturday.

The funeral of Tamo, who was gunned down on Friday became a mass rally with more than 50,000 demonstrators calling for the fall of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's regime, activists said.


AFP/NOW Lebanon



Lebanon news - NOW Lebanon -Syria closes border gate with Turkey
 
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[Turkey takes sides on Syria, faces new risks

08 October 2011, Saturday / TODAYSZAMAN.COM WITH REUTERS,

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Syrian Colonel Riad Al-As'aad at a refugee camp in Hatay, near the Turkish-Syrian border.




Turkey is piling pressure on Syria with border military exercises, economic sanctions and the harboring of Syrian opposition groups and army defectors, but Ankara must tread carefully to avoid arousing the suspicion of Arab states or spurring Syrian counter-measures.

Turkey has shifted, in the space of six months, from being Syria's new best friend forever to a centre of gravity for opposition to President Bashar al-Assad outside the country.

Having started out by advising Assad to exercise restraint and make reforms when pro-democracy unrest first erupted in March, Turkey is now on the verge of invoking sanctions against a government it once sat down with for joint cabinet meetings.

Syrian dissidents abroad, and some who have managed to sneak out of the country, have flocked to İstanbul over the past few months to give the revolution a united political front.

And Turkey has given sanctuary to the most senior Syrian military officer to defect, while this week it began manoeuvres in a province over which Syria has had longstanding claims.

"Turkey is clearly taking sides now," said Cengiz Aktar, professor at İstanbul's Bahçeşehir University. "Turkey expects this opposition and the upheaval in the country will eventually finish the job and the revolution will bring an end to the regime."

But Turkey's policy shift, which has aligned Ankara more closely with the West, comes with risks.

"Syrian intelligence might use every opportunity to instigate Kurdish violence," Aktar said, referring to Turkey's restive minority population.

Aktar said Turkey, whose clout in the Middle East has grown out of a combination of economic growth and secular democracy, could see goodwill evaporate if it is perceived to be meddling in Syria.

"At the end of the day, Turkey risks being told to mind its own business and to first put its house in order. The more it wants to be a soft power the more it is going to be told by the international community to apply the same standards with its Kurds minority."

For all their closeness over the past decade, the two countries almost went to war in the late 1990s over Syria giving refuge to terrorists fighting the Turkish state.

Living under Turkish protection, Syrian Colonel Riad al-As'aad exhorts his former comrades to desert to organise the armed struggle he believes is needed to drive Assad from power.

"We assure them (the Syrian people) they should be patient, and God willing, very soon, Bashar will be between their hands," As'aad told Reuters in an interview on Thursday.

"We must be patient. We hope the Syrian people will be stronger and remain committed to continue to bring down the regime."

Revolted by the killing of Syrian civilians, and seeing the tide of history turn with the "Arab Spring" of popular uprisings, Turkey has calculated that its long term interest lies in supporting the Syrian people's struggle for democracy.

That Syria, like Turkey, has a Sunni Muslim majority, while Assad and his clique belong to the Alawite minority, an offshoot of Shi'ite Islam, made that choice even simpler.

The breakdown in their relationship leaves Iran as Syria's closest backer, though the Russian and Chinese vetoes earlier this week of a UN Security Council draft resolution censuring Syria showed Assad retains some support elsewhere.


Santions

Anti-Assad factions meeting in İstanbul -- ranging from Islamists through liberals, along with ethnic and tribal leaders -- have coalesced under a revolutionary Syrian National Council with a stated aim of ousting Assad within six months.

Offering itself as a potential future interim government, this broad-based opposition group has helped instil some confidence among governments, like Turkey, who disapprove of Assad but had not known who to support.

Hitherto, they have feared Assad's fall would leave Syria without a central authority capable of stopping the country sliding into religious, sectarian and ethnic violence.

One Western diplomat, asked about Turkey's hesitation in the past to ditch Assad, said Ankara had come to see Assad as "the devil we know."

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, who had previously enjoyed a close rapport with Assad, is expected to visit a camp in the border province of Hatay sheltering some of the 7,500 Syrians who have fled the violence at home.

Due to the death of his mother, Erdoğan delayed a visit that had been set for Sunday, but he has already promised to announce sanctions against the Syrian government.

Turkey is expected to freeze bank accounts held by members of Assad's inner circle, cut ties with Syrian state banks, and halt deals between state-run companies, notably in oil and gas, while avoiding measures that could hurt the people.

Erdoğan predicted last month that Assad will be ousted "sooner or later", but how far he is willing to go to make it happen is an open question.

Compounding tensions this week, Turkey began military exercises in Hatay province, which Syria has had longstanding claims over since it was ceded to Turkey in 1939 when France controlled Syria and Lebanon.

The exercises, relatively small-scale logistical drills involving a large contingent of less experienced reservist troops, are seen as a symbolic reminder to Damascus that the second largest army in NATO is just across the border.

"It is part of the Turkish government's campaign to apply increased psychological pressure on the regime in Damascus because previous warnings have gone unheeded," said Fadi Hakura, analyst at Chatham House think-tank in London.


Last resort

Turkey has begun intercepting arms bound for Syria passing through its waters and air space.

Some analysts say it is easy to foresee Turkey eventually helping to equip and organise Syrian rebels, like Colonel As'aad, who want to wage an armed struggle against those units of Assad's security forces leading the repression of protesters.

Other analysts believe it would be a mistake for Turkey to go beyond support for peaceful protests by letting itself become a rear base for an armed opposition or being seen as a provocateur in Syria's internal conflict, especially if it developed a stronger sectarian dimension.

Turkey, after all, is vulnerable to mischief-making among ethnic Kurds and developments that could cause unease within its own Alevi minority community.

Speculation keeps resurfacing that Turkey's military could end up entering Syria to create a buffer zone for the protection of Syrians from Assad's security forces.

During the 1991 Gulf War, about half a million Iraqi Kurds fled to Turkey, returning only after Western powers, along with Turkish contingents, set up a safe haven across the border.

But analysts see this option still as a last resort for Ankara, and one that is unlikely to be taken without first getting a UN mandate.

As it has done in other Arab countries gripped by upheaval, Turkey has played on sentimental attachments to the Ottoman era, when İstanbul counted vast swathes of Arabia, North Africa and the Balkans among its dominions.

Whereas Erdoğan has earned admiration among Arabs for championing the Palestinian cause and leading democratic change in Turkey, analysts say Arabs would not like to see Turkish troops crossing into Syria.


[NEWS ANALYSIS] Turkey takes sides on Syria, faces new risks
 
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Syria warns against recognizing opposition council



09 October 2011, Sunday / REUTERS, BEIRUT




Syria warned on Sunday it would retaliate against any country that formally recognizes the National Council set up by opponents of President Bashar al-Assad.


"We will take tough measures against any state which recognizes this illegitimate council," Foreign Minister Walid al-Moualem told a news conference broadcast by Syrian television.



Syria warns against recognizing opposition council
 
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Damascus and Ankara enter war of words as opposition to regime widens




09 October 2011, Sunday / TODAY’S ZAMAN, İSTANBUL

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Venezuelan Foreign Minister Nicolas Maduro (L) speaks during a join press conference with his Syrian and Cuban counterpats, Walid al-Moallem (C) and Bruno Rodriguez Parrilla in Damascus. Syria's foreign minister has warned the international community not to recognize a new council formed by the opposition, saying it is “illegitimate''



In a war of words which underscores the present freefall in relations between Ankara and Bashar al-Assad's regime in Damascus, Turkish officials on Sunday responded to Assad's Friday warning that “Turkey could fall into a state similar to ours,” remarking that “Turkey is a democracy… people are free to criticize virtually everything in Turkey.”

Assad stated on Friday that “should [Turkey] attempt to exploit our problems, then its own problems will become much bigger. Their hostility will backfire on them.” The comments from Turkish officials dismissed the alleged similarity between Turkey's political system and Assad's crackdown against countrywide protests.

The bitter exchange between the two powers comes at a time when anti-regime activity is rapidly escalating in Syria, where the murder of a prominent Syrian Kurdish activist this weekend triggered massive protests and incited a violent reaction by Assad's security forces, who protesters claimed killed two civilians. Ankara's frustration with Assad's violent handling of peaceful protests has also led to Turkish promises of sanctions against Damascus, and Turkey's granting Syrian opposition groups permission to meet freely in İstanbul.

Last week, the Syrian National Council (SNC), a 230-member assembly of opposition voices which includes the Muslim Brotherhood, Syrian Christians, liberals and other political bodies within Syria, met in İstanbul to discuss its policy against Assad’s regime.

Turkey’s cooperation with the opposition has enraged the Syrian government, which warned on Sunday it would retaliate against any country that formally recognizes the SNC, set up by opponents of President Assad. “We will take tough measures against any state which recognizes this illegitimate council,” Syrian Foreign Minister Walid al-Moualem told a news conference broadcast on Syrian television.

In another sign of worsening relations between the two governments, Syria closed its borders to Turkish citizens on Friday. Murat Girgin, the district governor of Nusaybin in Mardin province, which borders Syria, told the Anatolia news agency that the border was closed “due to incidents that erupted on the Syrian side of the border on Friday night.”

The violence to which Girgin referred came in the wake of the assassination of Syrian Kurdish activist and SNC member Mashaal Tammo, who was killed by security forces on Friday evening at his home in Syria’s northeastern city of Qamishli. According to a Reuters report, the funeral and mass protest movement which followed on Saturday attracted roughly 50,000 people demanding the end of Assad’s regime. Two protesters were reportedly killed as security forces attempted to disperse the crowd.

In İstanbul, protesters gathered at the Syrian Consulate and the Golden Park Hotel, where the SNC formerly met, to launch demonstrations in protest of Tammo’s death. Other protests were held at Syrian embassies throughout Europe.

The Turkish Ministry of Foreign Affairs strongly condemned the assassination, declaring in a statement released on Saturday that Turkey felt deep sorrow over the killing of the Syrian Kurdish activist. “We wish Tammo God’s mercy and offer our condolences to his family and friends. We watch with concern and condemn all attacks designed to silence the Syrian opposition,” the statement read.

Opposition figures say Tammo’s death may serve to rally Syria’s once passive Kurdish minority against the regime. According to Halit Hoca, an İstanbul-based dissident and member of the SNC, “Syria made a big mistake killing Tammo. The Kurds will now be much more active in their opposition to the regime.”



Damascus and Ankara enter war of words as opposition to regime widens
 
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Assalam alaikum,

This criminal is gone mad while seeing his is cornered hhhhhh

u will pay for ur crimes and ur cursed father's crimes , bashar ja7sh. i don't know why ppl term him assad his real surname is ja7sh and he is

TARIQ
 
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Firstly, Turkey's army is not an professional army, but an army of its citizens and most of the people in turkey are strongly against a war with our neighbour.
Secondly, the people who claims that Syria supported the PKK (a kurdish terrorist group) is manipulating the facts. In fact, Turkey supported the rebels of syria in 1982, and supported Israel for decades. The ruling party, AKP is also does not block the trade and arm dealing. Today still, pilots and commandos of Israel army are training in Konya and Bolu. Turkey is also is a strong counterpart of USA in the region. Current Prime minister, Mr. Erdogan, stressed on that he fully supported the middle eastern project of USA. Turkey also helpes USA to occupy Iraq. Thus turkey is not a leader country in the reigion but a partner of USA and NATO.
Thirdly, There are thousands of people living in turkey who have relatives, close relations with Syria. Turkey has a arabic population too.
Fourthly, look at the government which accuses Essad regime as "anti-democratic". All people who are against this government are in jail. And according to international press associations, there are hundereds of journalist in Turkish jails.
To attack syria only let Israel and USA to win. But people of two countries who are brother would lost.
Turkish people have the common idea for middle east that is free palestine and down with syonist regime.
 
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Firstly, Turkey's army is not an professional army, but an army of its citizens and most of the people in turkey are strongly against a war with our neighbour.
Secondly, the people who claims that Syria supported the PKK (a kurdish terrorist group) is manipulating the facts. In fact, Turkey supported the rebels of syria in 1982, and supported Israel for decades. The ruling party, AKP is also does not block the trade and arm dealing. Today still, pilots and commandos of Israel army are training in Konya and Bolu. Turkey is also is a strong counterpart of USA in the region. Current Prime minister, Mr. Erdogan, stressed on that he fully supported the middle eastern project of USA. Turkey also helpes USA to occupy Iraq. Thus turkey is not a leader country in the reigion but a partner of USA and NATO.
Thirdly, There are thousands of people living in turkey who have relatives, close relations with Syria. Turkey has a arabic population too.
Fourthly, look at the government which accuses Essad regime as "anti-democratic". All people who are against this government are in jail. And according to international press associations, there are hundereds of journalist in Turkish jails.
To attack syria only let Israel and USA to win. But people of two countries who are brother would lost.
Turkish people have the common idea for middle east that is free palestine and down with syonist regime.

Army of its citizens?? lol u want other citizens to fight your war? i think you mean conscript army..Anyway Turkish armed forces has large professional armies such as the Special Operation Command, Jöh, 6 Commando brigades also fully professional. This means thousands of professional forces.
 
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Firstly, Turkey's army is not an professional army, but an army of its citizens and most of the people in turkey are strongly against a war with our neighbour.
Secondly, the people who claims that Syria supported the PKK (a kurdish terrorist group) is manipulating the facts. In fact, Turkey supported the rebels of syria in 1982, and supported Israel for decades. The ruling party, AKP is also does not block the trade and arm dealing. Today still, pilots and commandos of Israel army are training in Konya and Bolu. Turkey is also is a strong counterpart of USA in the region. Current Prime minister, Mr. Erdogan, stressed on that he fully supported the middle eastern project of USA. Turkey also helpes USA to occupy Iraq. Thus turkey is not a leader country in the reigion but a partner of USA and NATO.
Thirdly, There are thousands of people living in turkey who have relatives, close relations with Syria. Turkey has a arabic population too.
Fourthly, look at the government which accuses Essad regime as "anti-democratic". All people who are against this government are in jail. And according to international press associations, there are hundereds of journalist in Turkish jails.
To attack syria only let Israel and USA to win. But people of two countries who are brother would lost.
Turkish people have the common idea for middle east that is free palestine and down with syonist regime.
So many factual errors and unreal observations.
 
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Turkey is recognized as one of the most stable country in this world. They should not get involved.Rather, the best chance right now is grabbing Greece!
 
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You had plenty of time for that if Turkey Invades first then you will receive Bio and Chemicals weapons.

lol we will shut the dams and we will destroy syria , we will destroy syria within a couple of days , lol i dnt think there gna fire bio or chemical weapons then they will see more f-16s than birds in there sky

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anyway i dnt think we should war for what?? who cares let others destroy them they are supporters of PKK and assad is enemy of ottomans he hates them
 
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In Ottoman times, Damascus was a modernized city. Arabs destroyed it like the other Ottoman cities.

Ottoman Damascus:
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Arab Damascus:
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y all Muslim nation keep fighting with each other...Arabs hates Iran, Iran hates Iraq, and Turkey wants to attack Syria..rnt they contradicting the concept of Muslim brotherhood?:what:
 
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