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Turkey flag flies proudly in Turkey backed part of Syria. Syria used to be in Turkey empire.

You seem to show a lot of hatred whenever I associate Turks with anything Islam. Are you not Muslim then? I asked you this before but you refused to answer it for some strange reason.

It's best if you don't slander people. If you knew anything about me at all, you'd know that I recently made a thread which portrays the Saudi Regime negatively.
I've a question for you arabized pakistanis (parabs). What percentage of Turks you think want to live in a united global islamic empire/society where there is total freedom of movement of work and living, where millions of muslims from somalia, ghana, yemen can come and work and live in istanbul and where the government is run by islamic laws and sharia. What is the meaning of associating turks with islam? it has no meaning at all. Same for Iranians.
 
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I've a question for you arabized pakistanis (parabs). What percentage of Turks you think want to live in a united global islamic empire/society where there is total freedom of movement of work and living, where millions of muslims from somalia, ghana, yemen can come and work and live in istanbul and where the government is run by islamic laws and sharia. What is the meaning of associating turks with islam? it has no meaning at all. Same for Iranians.
Bravo, Umma is incomplete unborn child. We tried it before and we failed badly.
hopefully our mullahs learned a lot from Afghanistan war,Iraq and Azerbaijan and Bosnia war and our involvements a lot.
Pakistanis with killing Iranians in Mazar sharif triggered change in Iran foreign policy toward Islamic world.
After that Iran learned some Muslims are devil terrorists and it's good to work with Russians and Chinese to kill those bastard Terrorists.
I think Turks will come to the point where we were in 20 yrs ago soon.
 
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Bravo, Umma is incomplete unborn child. We tried it before and we failed badly.
hopefully our mullahs learned a lot from Afghanistan war,Iraq and Azerbaijan and Bosnia war and our involvements a lot.
Pakistanis with killing Iranians in Mazar sharif triggered change in Iran foreign policy toward Islamic world.
After that Iran learned some Muslims are devil terrorists and it's good to work with Russians and Chinese to kill those bastard Terrorists.
I think Turks will come to the point where we were in 20 yrs ago soon.

Yes, you're right, anybody opposing an illegitimate dictatorship is a terrorist! Hey you've already convinced at least one person.
 
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Yes, you're right, anybody opposing an illegitimate dictatorship is a terrorist! Hey you've already convinced at least one person.
I am speaking about near history and what Iran learned from some conflicts in past.

Syrian government is legitimate by all international rules.
 
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I am speaking about near history and what Iran learned from some conflicts in past.

Syrian government is legitimate by all international rules.

In Idlib thousands of displaced Syrians showed quite clearly that the alawite bastard is unwanted in Syria. So in my book it means the despot is illegitimate.
 
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several terrorists who take civilians hostage in Idlib are not important and nobody will listen to them.

Thousands of protesters waving flags and banners couldn't possibly be hostages, any sane person can see that but of course, I'm having this conversation with someone who's busy defending the ugliest terror godfather in Syria. So I'm not surprised!
 
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Judging from this thread, the Muslim world is f#@ked.

There are many normal Muslims in the world who do want cooperation with each other and do see each other as brothers. I guess this forum leans on the nationalist side a bit so you often get people who are too nationalistic and very little Islamic. There are still many good Muslim members on here though, I imagine they just stay from immature conversations.

Are you a kafir?

Nope. I'm a proud Muslim.



I've a question for you arabized pakistanis (parabs). What percentage of Turks you think want to live in a united global islamic empire/society where there is total freedom of movement of work and living, where millions of muslims from somalia, ghana, yemen can come and work and live in istanbul and where the government is run by islamic laws and sharia. What is the meaning of associating turks with islam? it has no meaning at all. Same for Iranians.

No I'm just a Pakistani Muslim.

There is plenty of meaning as Turks were a Muslim powerhouse and ruled much of the Muslim world for cenutries. The muslim world will recover from their humiliation and the brainwashing by irreligious tyrants or military dictators can't last forever.

Maybe it has no meaning for Iranians like yourself. But it's not the same for all other nations. I pity you Iranians, either you have ultra nationalist Iranians who hate Muslims because they feel upset that you lost your empire 1400 years ago or you have the shia-iranians who hate other Muslims because they are shia and others are not. I imagine these are the fruits of Shah Ismael and his descendants converting Iran to shiaism by force.

Thousands of protesters waving flags and banners couldn't possibly be hostages, any sane person can see that but of course, I'm having this conversation with someone who's busy defending the ugliest terror godfather in Syria. So I'm not surprised!

They just label anyone who disagrees with them a terrorist unfortunately. They have little sense of justice or honour.
 
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Nope. I'm a proud Muslim.

Why is it so hard for you to answer the question? It's just a yes/no question.



No I'm just a Pakistani Muslim.

There is plenty of meaning as Turks were a Muslim powerhouse and ruled much of the Muslim world for cenutries. The muslim world will recover from their humiliation and the brainwashing by irreligious tyrants or military dictators can't last forever.

Maybe it has no meaning for Iranians like yourself. But it's not the same for other nations. I pity you Iranians, either you have ultra nationalist Iranians who hate Muslims because they feel upset that you lost your empire 1400 years ago or you have the shia-iranians who hate other Muslims because they are shia and others are not. I imagine these are the fruits of Shah Ismael and his descendants converting Iran to shiaism by force.
I pity Pakistan, my dear neighbour, almost 45 % can't read and write and stuck in ummah/pan-islamist fantasy which adds nothing, instead has only brought terror and misery into Pakistan. What shah Ismael the great did in few years will happen naturally in Pakistan in coming 100 to 200 years, sunnism-ummaism-panislamism will be put aside for new ideas. In Pakistan it will happen slower because islam was one of the main factors which led to creation of Pakistan. So there will be a period of identity crisis at the end of this century and after that it's bye bye ummah/pan-islamism in Pakistan aswell. Eventually Iran will influence Afghanistan also, so we'll witness a domino effect. If we want our countries back we have no other choice than cultural independency (some might call it nationalism) hand in hand with improving our economie by investing in education, science, infrastructure.
 
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I pity Pakistan, my dear neighbour, almost 45 % can't read and write and stuck in ummah/pan-islamist fantasy which adds nothing, instead has only brought terror and misery into Pakistan. What shah Ismael the great did in few years will happen naturally in Pakistan in coming 100 to 200 years, sunnism-ummaism-panislamism will be put aside for new ideas. In Pakistan it will happen slower because islam was one of the main factors which led to creation of Pakistan. So there will be a period of identity crisis at the end of this century and after that it's bye bye ummah/pan-islamism in Pakistan aswell. Eventually Iran will influence Afghanistan also, so we'll witness a domino effect. If we want our countries back we have no other choice than cultural independency (some might call it nationalism) hand in hand with improving our economie by investing in education, science, infrastructure.

Pity us all you want. The end home of an illiterate Pakistani Muslim will always be good. But many of you Iranian nationalists, you lose in the world as your nation is weak and you lose in the akirah as your Islam is weak.
 
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Based on this thread, India Pakistan Hindu Muslim gc is a domestic spat among blood brothers. Lolzzzz

@Maarkhoor bhai bhai, bhai bhai.

Cheers, Doc

I pity Pakistan, my dear neighbour, almost 45 % can't read and write and stuck in ummah/pan-islamist fantasy which adds nothing, instead has only brought terror and misery into Pakistan. What shah Ismael the great did in few years will happen naturally in Pakistan in coming 100 to 200 years, sunnism-ummaism-panislamism will be put aside for new ideas. In Pakistan it will happen slower because islam was one of the main factors which led to creation of Pakistan. So there will be a period of identity crisis at the end of this century and after that it's bye bye ummah/pan-islamism in Pakistan aswell. Eventually Iran will influence Afghanistan also, so we'll witness a domino effect. If we want our countries back we have no other choice than cultural independency (some might call it nationalism) hand in hand with improving our economie by investing in education, science, infrastructure.

What in your mind is the end-goal for Iran?

Islam? Albeit kept at home.

Atheism?

Agnosticism?

Cheers, Doc
 
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Arab no one is reading your bs, we just enjoy teasing you, remember the conquest of Baghdad, Cairo, Sham, all the other places Turks conquered form you poor Arabs.

Hand full of Turks conquered the whole Arab world lol.

ignore these arab retards they have been irrelevant in world history since 1258
 
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