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How rafale is even 5th gen fighter jet?
5th gen Spec - Rafale - F35
Stealth --------- LO ----- VLO
Supercruise ----YES ---- NO
F16 like agile -- YES ---- ?? (see how a F16 with 2 tanks was better than the F35)
Sensor fusion - YES ---- YES

If F35 is 5th gen according to LM (1 spec, maybe 2 non OK), so is the Rafale.
 
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5th gen Spec - Rafale - F35
Stealth --------- LO ----- VLO
Supercruise ----YES ---- NO
F16 like agile -- YES ---- ?? (see how a F16 with 2 tanks was better than the F35)
Sensor fusion - YES ---- YES

If F35 is 5th gen according to LM (1 spec, maybe 2 non OK), so is the Rafale.
supercruise is just as important as stealth in your world?
 
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Greece : 24 Rafale ordered yet. Finale figure will be between 36 and 48+. And some F35 to come.
No,we'll probably stop at 24 Rafale. The Minister of Defence announced that if everything goes well,Greece will be getting the first 4 F-35s in 2028 and will have 20 by 2032. The government wants a second squadron of F-35 in the future.

I wish we had the first F-35s in 2024 instead of 2028....ffs we have to wait 5 years?!
 
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