Turkey and France clash over Libya air campaign

[fallstuff]

This is Sarkozys war. Little Sarkozy better have the balls to go through it.

People here talking big do not have any idea what will be the outcome of the war. Wars in Iraq, Vietnam, Afghanistan(Soviet,US) started with big ideas, what happened to them now ? Libya can be bombed to dust, how the fu*k that helps the population ? What happens after 90 days, when he is still around ? After 90 days the country maybe in a full scale civil war. What country would want to send army to stop a civil war. Starting around 2005 through 2006 roughly 5000 people were killed on average every month in Iraq. All the loudmouth geniuses advocating war don't have any clue.

Only idiots think war will only bring the outcome they desire.

 

[Developereo]

This is Sarkozys war. Little Sarkozy better have the balls to go through it.

People here talking big do not have any idea what will be the outcome of the war. Wars in Iraq, Vietnam, Afghanistan(Soviet,US) started with big ideas, what happened to them now ? Libya can be bombed to dust, how the fu*k that helps the population ? What happens after 90 days, when he is still around ? After 90 days the country maybe in a full scale civil war. What country would want to send army to stop a civil war. Starting around 2005 through 2006 roughly 5000 people were killed on average every month in Iraq. All the loudmouth geniuses advocating war don't have any clue.

Only idiots think war will only bring the outcome they desire.

I agree that France and England have a hidden agenda to settle old scores, but don't you think the Arab/Muslim countries could have handled it better by intervening first and mediating the conflict?

When Gaddafi promised to hunt down the protestors 'house to house', it was incumbent upon the Muslim countries to give him a reality check -- especially after Tunisia and Egypt.

Btw, Egypt and UAE support the rebels.

 

[Zulkarneyn]

To be honest, i agree that Turkey's stand on this issue is totally justified. Gaddafi do indeed murder his own population because they oppose his tyranny after many many years.
BUT, the West is STILL hypocritical without ANY doubt, why didn't the west move their fingers an inch when Rwanda executed around 1 million Tutsis? Or where millions of people died and still dying in Congo? We have an unfair system based on rich Westtern countries abusing poor eastern and southern countries, i'm very sorry to say this but there are indications that Turkey will follow this "train". Yet there are still hope because Erdogan stressed heavily that Turkey under NO circumstances will shoot any fire against Libyans and that we have NO eyes on their Oil. That is why Turkey criticized this invasion, we clearly said that NATO countries must forget the oil and that our primary concern must be humanitarian relief.

 

[Saithan]

I think you are right Zulk, and I also think that "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em on your terms" is what Turkey got for giving its consensus.

NATO will oversee aerial mission for Libya at seems the aerial missions will be operated from izmir in Turkey, which means we'll be monitoring developements.

 

[Desert Fox]

Lots sadly



Rare birth defects common in Gaza due to inbreeding

My Fathers cousin married his cousin and they had 2 sons and 1 daughter, one of their sons is an engineer, the other is a surgeon in America, while the daughter is also a doctor (pediatrician). They're all successful, have families and no birth defects Alhamdulillah.

On the other hand in the Western countries, there are a lot of children born with birth defects in the west due to the drug abuse, alcohol, and cigarettes the parents took before and during pregnancy.

 

[Saithan]

science has proven that the chances of birth defect of certain genetic combinations are higher than others. e.g.

2 brothers who're married and their children boy & girl decide to get married would have higher chance of giving birth to a child with a birth defect. Please do research this if you don't believe. 1-2 generation might avoid the birth defect, but if defect in the family should occur, the doctors will start looking at the family tree first (I think).

 

[Penguin]

Human rights watch group has already claimed they are no mercenaries, Human Rights Watch: No Mercenaries in Libya « Red Ant Liberation Army News, and Russia has claimed there is no civilian bombing by Ghadafi.

Human rights watch group?

This Red Ant Liberation Army News is 1 scruffy guy, who is posting stuff on the web from home.
About « Red Ant Liberation Army News

Please do check your information sources for quality.... and google 'Pan-African Legion'.

 

[Penguin]

Is it possible NATO membership would break up? I am not speaking of Turkey. It would be wise NATO become weak and nonfunctional with countries in disagreement or lack of consciences or lack of leaderships.


President Gül reinforced the Turkish view that France and others were being driven primarily by economic interests. "The aim [of the air campaign] is not the liberation of the Libyan people," he said. "There are hidden agendas and different interests."

There always are different interests and often also hidden agenda's. That's normal in international relations.....

 

[Penguin]

Turkey should leave crusader forces adn join Muslim nation's alliance


We need a new coalition of Salah din - it would be great for Turkey and Pakistan to spear head things for such coalition

Nato fato , is old news , time to see things the way they are

We need to liberate world from opression called Democracy where richest class rules 95% of poor

The rich only rules 95% of the poor? So, 5% of them manage to not be ruled by the richest class. How do they do that? Can they teach the rest?

Conditions are all much better I suppose in e.g. China, Syria, Iran or Saudi Arabia, rather than in democratics countries?

 

[Penguin]

France has out-rightly banned the headscarf not just the Burker and as a hypocrite decides to help Muslim in Libiya ?

Try work in public office in Turkey and wear a headscarf .... it's illegal IIRC.

 

[Penguin]

Whats wrong with marrying your own cousin?

A cousin couple is a pair of cousins who are involved in a romantic or sexual relationship.

Main articles: Cousin marriage and List of coupled cousins
[edit] See alsoConsanguinity
Genealogy
Genetic sexual attraction
Westermarck effect
Inbreeding
Pedigree collapse
Prohibited degree of kinship

Cousin couple - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

While some 'inbreeding' may enhance fertility rate, offspring of consanguineous relationships are at greater risk of certain genetic disorders. The extent to which the risk increases depends on the degree of genetic relationship between the parents; so the risk is greater in mating relationships where the parents are close relatives, but for relationships between more distant relatives, such as second cousins, the risk is lower (although still greater than the general population). But, third cousins produce more children and grandchildren.

 

[Penguin]

Since people are mentioning Erdogan's religion, it's worth mentioning that Sarkozy is half-Jewish. It is not a coincidence that he is so anti-Muslim.

As for the French law about religious symbols in schools, it is blatantly discriminatory since it bans the headscarf but allows small necklaces with a cross or star of David.

You realize that:

With a constitutional principle of official secularism, the Turkish government has traditionally banned women who wear headscarves from working in the public sector. The ban applies to teachers, lawyers, parliamentarians and others working on state premises. The ban on headscarves in the civil service and educational and political institutions was expanded to cover non-state institutions. Female lawyers and journalists who refused to comply with the ban were expelled from public buildings such as courtrooms and universities

Headscarf controversy in Turkey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Headscarf Ban | Turkey
See also: Hijab by country - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Penguin]

turkey should show some power to these racist europian countries

its time for turkey to give them some light kickes

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[ovarel]

Try work in public office in Turkey and wear a headscarf .... it's illegal IIRC.

it is a dictatorial remnant and it will change..

 

[nightcrawler]

Libyan rebel commander admits his fighters have al-Qaeda links - Telegraph
This is not suprising. I mean this organized rebellion seems CIA started and Al Qaeda Executed . So Ironic