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Turkey accuses France of genocide in Algeria

This tit for tat attitude is useless and counter productive. Wonder why Turkey never brought this up until today.

Yeah, we know, just how productive you are and what your intention is. Give that advice to your american and israeli friends because they don't wait a second to take revenge.
 
the blame game from turkey. why it never said this before? why only after the French passed that resolution? it has become funny now.
 
the blame game from turkey. why it never said this before? why only after the French passed that resolution? it has become funny now.

Do you think the Turks give a damn to what some sly indian foxes think or say? If you think the Turks are just going to take it from your French buddies, you've mistaken!
 
Yeah, we know, just how productive you are and what your intention is. Give that advice to your american and israeli friends because they don't wait a second to take revenge.

ST*U and focus on topic. Jeez you are possibly the most bitter person on this forum!

I have the right to have my opinion just like you do, so can it.
 
Do you think the Turks give a damn to what some sly indian foxes think or say? If you think the Turks are just going to take it from your French buddies, you've mistaken!
do you think that the French give a damn to what a sly bangladeshi cow has to say? if you think that the French are going to take it from your turk buddies, you're mistaken!
 
do you think that the French give a damn to what a sly bangladeshi cow has to say? if you think that the French are going to take it from your turk buddies, you're mistaken!

I'm happy that an indian has accepted me as his tutor! As for being a cow, it should be a bull for I have quite an erotic dick and believe me, I do not entertain the idea of being a god(Hindus worship cows and bulls as gods, right?) to any indian!
 
I'm happy that an indian has accepted me as his tutor!
:rofl:

As for being a cow, it should be a bull for I have quite an erotic dick
your behaviour is feminine though. hence cow. lol

and believe me, I do not entertain the idea of being a god(Hindus worship cows and bulls as gods, right?) to any indian![/B]
thank you for giving us the opportunity of reporting you as always.
 
Are you Indians defending France on this?
 
Its very very simple to understand for some one if he/she has brain. There is a game which france wants to play with us. So we have started to play with her. She plays on card which based on lies but Turkiye has a card which based on the truth...

still not answered my questions. i'm asking again. why you guys started blaming them "only after" they passed the resolution? if it was true then why you were silent till today? see, we have nothing against you or them. i'm just trying to have a conversation.

Is it funny for you ?? If you wanna see funny something take your pants down and watch your indian a$$ in the mirror. I guaranty you, you will see really funny something from refraction....:D
personal attack. not required.
 
@Gautam

Is it really hard to understand? yeah for you sure its hard. We never played historian role unlike france. We always said politicians must stay away than historical issues. But here you see, france doesn't understand. If politicians have right to talk about history of-course Turkish politicians will talk about real history of france.

Now got it?
 
@Gautam

Is it really hard to understand? yeah for you sure its hard. We never played historian role unlike france. We always said politicians must stay away than historical issues. But here you see, france doesn't understand. If politicians have right to talk about history of-course Turkish politicians will talk about real history of france.

Now got it?
so basically- you'll tell the "real" history only and only after France pass the resolution. and not before that?
 
The Turkish counter attack by bringing in the Algerian genocide serves no purpose. Looks like the current Turkish leadership reacts fast and reacts aggressively.
As I said previously on the French legislation about the Armenian 'genocide': Such kind of legislation muzzles free speech. Just as I oppose the cursed Blasphemy Law in Pakistan I oppose the new French legislation. And, yes, the legislation does affect Turkey. The issue is between Armenians and Turks. French have no business--either moral or legal--to legislate in this matter.

Anyway, the best response is an article copied/pasted below by Turkey's own Mustafa Akyol. What a great thinker this young man is!

MUSTAFA AKYOL - Why France is so illiberal?


Why France is so illiberal?

“I do not think I have ever met a Frenchman who was a liberal,” the late French literary critic Émile Faguet once ironically remarked. If he lived today, he could have preserved his pessimism, especially in the light of the latest work of the French National Assembly: A new law which penalizes “the denial of the Armenian Genocide” with a year in prison and a heavy fine.

Before getting into the trouble with France, though, let me tell you what I think about what really happened to the Ottoman Armenians in 1915. I do not go as far as using the G word, but I think that this tragic episode well deserves being called an “ethnic cleansing” – and a very gruesome one which killed at least half a million innocent souls. I also think that we Turks have made a big mistake for decades by refusing to see the great suffering of the Armenians, who used to be our good neighbors for centuries before the venom of ethnic nationalism befell all of us. I therefore not only believe in, but also push for, a more honest and compassionate attitude in Turkey to what is called here “the Armenian issue.”

That is why I would not be offended by any declaration by the French National Assembly, or any other parliament in the world, that expresses grief for the Great Catastrophe of 1915. I in fact hold that parliaments should not legislate history, but if they wish to express an opinion, that would be their call, and I would not object.

Now let’s come to France. Here, the first thing I would say is that it is only hypocritical for this county give lessons to others about the sanctity of human life: the more than 1.7 million innocent souls that the French colonizers brutally killed in Algeria is enough of a reason for France to remain shamefully silent when it comes to history and humanity. But countries do have double standards, and nations tend to see other’s crimes rather than their own. So, let me be lenient on that.

What I am not lenient on, though, is the shocking illiberalism that lies behind the new French law. It not only proclaims that 1915 was genocide, but it also penalizes all other opinions, launching a clear attack against freedom of speech.

Needless to say, such laws about “genocide denial” (including the most unacceptable of all, Holocaust denial) exist in France and some other continental European states, but not in the United Kingdom or the United States. For the latter Anglo-Saxon countries are the beacons of classical liberalism, while France certainly is not. (For the same reason, France has recently imposed a ridiculous ban on the burqa, which would be unthinkable in Britain and America.)

The roots of this illiberalism lie, I believe, in the two main pillars of French political thought, as it evolved since the bloodbath called the French Revolution: rationalism and laicite. These two principles can well curb individual freedom. For rationalism gives the state the power to figure out and impose “the truth,” whereas laicite gives it the power to oppress religion. Hence comes thought-policing and burqa-policing.

British thinker Tony Judt once expressed this problem well, noting, “To speak of natural rights, or rights against society, or about rights against state interference, was never a favorite topic in France.” He also observed that the French “displayed a strong propensity toward a strong executive power that in turn engendered a particular type of liberalism through the state, not against the state as in the Anglo-American liberal tradition.”

Unfortunately, we Turks can’t do much to help heal these problems in French political thought. We just need to de-Frenchize ourselves, by further expanding freedom of speech and freedom of religion, which were both tragically shrunk during our past French-wannabe century. And, of course, we need to reach out to the Armenians to establish a historic reconciliation in which no arrogant third party can interfere.

* For all of Mustafa Akyol’s works, including his recent book, ‘Islam without Extremes: A Muslim Case for Liberty,’ visit his blog, TheWhitePath.com. On Twitter, follow him at @AkyolinEnglish.
 
so basically- you'll tell the "real" history only and only after France pass the resolution. and not before that?

This "you " is personal "you" or general ? If you ask me as personal opinion, i always tell the truth of france. No one deny Algerian genocide.

If this "you" is general. France politicians want to play historian role. Why we cant play the same role ?
 

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