TTP finalises 15 point draft for talks

[Bratva]

May be gurkhas are fearless enough to engage taliban like this but as for as i know pakistani faujis try to avoid engaging taliban in direct combat, as there are always heavy casaulties in direct gun to gun battle, terrain is always helpful to taliban...the focus is on artillary shelling and tanks, gunship helicopters and back up of air force when taliban are offering very tough resistance....due to this fear of death in faujis, TTP darely attacks posts of army on mountains, ambushes caravans on road....As for as SSG commandos are concerned, they were used against taliban but ended up killed in surprisingly large numbers, now they are not used that much. Taliban themeselves are like commandos, infact more tough and sharp due to mountains being their home turf.
Aim of a fauji is to not get killed while aim of a taliban is to kill....army has not been able to defeat taliban because they are not natural predators like taliban, they are pre-occupied about returning safely to their families.

A muslim like Pakistani Fauji is always hesitant to kill other muslim and would only kill him in self defense.

 

[Marwat Khan Lodhi]

:


1) Stop drone attacks.

It wont happen, the control is in the hands of CIA who directly take permission from pak army for attacks.


2) Introduce Sharia law in courts.

It wont happen, this country was created in the name of islam, not for islam.

3) Introduce Islamic system of education in both public and private educational institutions.

Islamiyat is already there, they should merge madrassa with school.

4) Free Pakistani and foreign Taliban captured in jails.

Yes to Pakistani , no to foreigners…..foreigners should be handed over to respective countries.

5) Restoration and remuneration for damage to property during drone attacks.

Why only in drone attacks? Drone attacks mostly damages properties of Taliban……..what about the properties of common tribals who got destroyed in military operations?

6) Hand over control of tribal areas to local forces.

If by local forces they mean FC, khasadar and lashkars, then yes

7) Withdrawal of army from tribal areas and close down check posts.

Gradual withdrawl of army in phases once peace is restored…….but fauj wont accept it


8) All criminal allegations held against the Taliban to be dropped.

Should be acceptable


9) Prisoners from both sides to be released.

Should be acceptable

10) Equal rights for all, poor and rich.

I think it is demand of every sensible human being

11) Families of drone attack victims to be offered jobs.

And also those who got killed as collateral damage in military operations

12) End interest based system.

Should be acceptable

13) Stop supporting the US on the war on terror.

America sey dollars ataay hain, it wont be accepted by government and army

14) Replace the democratic system of governance with the Islamic system.

Instead democratic system should be modified, remove the flaws. Installing Islamic system like that of Taliban require use of force.

15) Stop all relations with the US.

No this is wrong demand……only end the slavery of america

 

[Bratva]

Restoration and remuneration for damage to property during drone attacks.

Would taliban reciprocate the same? by restoring the properties destroyed in their suicide attacks and compensating innocent men,women, children killed in their suicide blasts?

 

[Porus]

The points are as follows:

1) Stop drone attacks.

2) Introduce Sharia law in courts.

3) Introduce Islamic system of education in both public and private educational institutions.

4) Free Pakistani and foreign Taliban captured in jails.

5) Restoration and remuneration for damage to property during drone attacks.

6) Hand over control of tribal areas to local forces.

7) Withdrawal of army from tribal areas and close down check posts.

8) All criminal allegations held against the Taliban to be dropped.

9) Prisoners from both sides to be released.

10) Equal rights for all, poor and rich.

11) Families of drone attack victims to be offered jobs.

12) End interest based system.

13) Stop supporting the US on the war on terror.

14) Replace the democratic system of governance with the Islamic system.

15) Stop all relations with the US.

dawn.com

Well........So, the next caliph will be Nawaz Shareef.

-I thought they would also ask to replace kirkit with football played with the decapitated heads of enemies.

-Stopping drone attacks seems to have a priority over the implementation of Sharia.

-If they want to implement Sharia (14) in its purest form then what is the purpose of demanding 2,3,1012 separately? Are they not sure whether these are part of the Sharia?

 

[Zarvan]

A muslim like Pakistani Fauji is always hesitant to kill other muslim and would only kill him in self defense.

Hesitant good joke whole world knows who became USA slave and attacked Tribal areas first and murdered Tribals and after Lal Masjid Blunder they formed and organized party I mean tribals to hit back whole world knows who started and who took U turn and who sold Muslims including Dr Afia and also Taliban Ambassador To USA

 

[qamar1990]

May be gurkhas are fearless enough to engage taliban like this but as for as i know pakistani faujis try to avoid engaging taliban in direct combat, as there are always heavy casaulties in direct gun to gun battle, terrain is always helpful to taliban...the focus is on artillary shelling and tanks, gunship helicopters and back up of air force when taliban are offering very tough resistance....due to this fear of death in faujis, TTP darely attacks posts of army on mountains, ambushes caravans on road....As for as SSG commandos are concerned, they were used against taliban but ended up killed in surprisingly large numbers, now they are not used that much. Taliban themeselves are like commandos, infact more tough and sharp due to mountains being their home turf.
Aim of a fauji is to not get killed while aim of a taliban is to kill....army has not been able to defeat taliban because they are not natural predators like taliban, they are pre-occupied about returning safely to their families.

nice try.
pakistani soldier always slighter your fellows like pigs.
do you want a list of the taliban casualties pakistan army caused?

 

[Zarvan]

:


1) Stop drone attacks.

It wont happen, the control is in the hands of CIA who directly take permission from pak army for attacks.


2) Introduce Sharia law in courts.

It wont happen, this country was created in the name of islam, not for islam.

3) Introduce Islamic system of education in both public and private educational institutions.

Islamiyat is already there, they should merge madrassa with school.

4) Free Pakistani and foreign Taliban captured in jails.

Yes to Pakistani , no to foreigners…..foreigners should be handed over to respective countries.

5) Restoration and remuneration for damage to property during drone attacks.

Why only in drone attacks? Drone attacks mostly damages properties of Taliban……..what about the properties of common tribals who got destroyed in military operations?

6) Hand over control of tribal areas to local forces.

If by local forces they mean FC, khasadar and lashkars, then yes

7) Withdrawal of army from tribal areas and close down check posts.

Gradual withdrawl of army in phases once peace is restored…….but fauj wont accept it


8) All criminal allegations held against the Taliban to be dropped.

Should be acceptable


9) Prisoners from both sides to be released.

Should be acceptable

10) Equal rights for all, poor and rich.

I think it is demand of every sensible human being

11) Families of drone attack victims to be offered jobs.

And also those who got killed as collateral damage in military operations

12) End interest based system.

Should be acceptable

13) Stop supporting the US on the war on terror.

America sey dollars ataay hain, it wont be accepted by government and army

14) Replace the democratic system of governance with the Islamic system.

Instead democratic system should be modified, remove the flaws. Installing Islamic system like that of Taliban require use of force.

15) Stop all relations with the US.

No this is wrong demand……only end the slavery of america

You never understood the demand about education institutions they are basically asking government to end co education and also current Islamiyat is a joke what we need to do is when a student completes 10th he should have been taught meaning of Quran at least 3 times in school along with 3 books of Seerat and Islamiyat book should be changed and their should 3 to 4 major sections in Islamiyat book first all about Aqeedah than Haqooq ALLAH detail about Salah Roza Zakat Hajj and Jihad and its kinds lot of detail than Haqooq ul Ibad and than Islamic History and in 11th to 12 a student should be taught a Tafseer and Summarized Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim and Islamiyat should include Fiqh too and some other details than after 12th a person who wants to study Islam or other subjects his or her choice

nice try mother fucker.
pakistani soldier always slighter your fellows like pigs.
do you want a list of the taliban casualties pakistan army caused?

Yes are they not the same guys who also surrendered in 1971 and ran away in Kargil ?????????????

 

[qamar1990]

You never understood the demand about education institutions they are basically asking government to end co education and also current Islamiyat is a joke what we need to do is when a student completes 10th he should have been taught meaning of Quran at least 3 times in school along with 3 books of Seerat and Islamiyat book should be changed and their should 3 to 4 major sections in Islamiyat book first all about Aqeedah than Haqooq ALLAH detail about Salah Roza Zakat Hajj and Jihad and its kinds lot of detail than Haqooq ul Ibad and than Islamic History and in 11th to 12 a student should be taught a Tafseer and Summarized Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim and Islamiyat should include Fiqh too and some other details than after 12th a person who wants to study Islam or other subjects his or her choice


Yes are they not the same guys who also surrendered in 1971 and ran away in Kargil ?????????????

so you admit that you a fucking taliban?
before you were acting as a pakistani now your saying "you guys" ran away from kargil lmfao
zarvan i always knew you were a zalim kutey ka bacha" inshallah pakistan fauj teri taliban bhaiyon ki ma ki pudah marengey

 

[syedali73]

@qamar1990. My friend, keep it civil, will you? Certain people don't understand until their own house catches up the fire. It has never happened in history (and never going to happen in future) when a rebel group took up the power of the government. TTP (aliases JI/JUI) can give a list of 15000 points but they will never be able to cease the power as they are hoping for. These TTP (aliases JI/JUI) thugs are nothing in comparison to the Assassins of 11th and 12th century. The human civilization has not seen more cruel terrorists than the Assassins, but when the time came, they were smoked out of their mountainous hideouts and hunted like wild boars. You will find many things common between TTP (aliases JI/JUI) and the Assasins. Both were fighting to die, both were getting certificates of myrtyr and guarantee to go to jannah, both terrorized the world in the name of Islam, both had their hideouts up in the mountains, and both tried to gain power through sheer terrorism.

 

[MirAzaan]

I personally feel that the people are made to be like that, there is some thing wrong somewhere, try to educate them what is good for them through people to people interaction. The results would be in favor and there would be a peace in whole Nation. Do not forget we are Muslims and we do have lots of ways to sort out the very matter with peaceful manner not by the arms which is the means of destruction and thereby the conditions might be more worst.

 

[acid rain]

How come Pakistani representatives dont have a proper agenda or plans? is it advisable to think that just by pandering to the talibani demands they will oblige by stopping their activities?.

 

[Shadow_Hunter]

Pakistani government has no option other than to accept all the demands of Taliban

 

[Zarvan]

@qamar1990. My friend, keep it civil, will you? Certain people don't understand until their own house catches up the fire. It has never happened in history (and never going to happen in future) when a rebel group took up the power of the government. TTP (aliases JI/JUI) can give a list of 15000 points but they will never be able to cease the power as they are hoping for. These TTP (aliases JI/JUI) thugs are nothing in comparison to the Assassins of 11th and 12th century. The human civilization has not seen more cruel terrorists than the Assassins, but when the time came, they were smoked out of their mountainous hideouts and hunted like wild boars. You will find many things common between TTP (aliases JI/JUI) and the Assasins. Both were fighting to die, both were getting certificates of myrtyr and guarantee to go to jannah, both terrorized the world in the name of Islam, both had their hideouts up in the mountains, and both tried to gain power through sheer terrorism.

Mr I realize pretty much what loss it but sorry I can't trust our government blindly when I know they became puppets of USA first they betrayed Afghans and Tribals first they attacked and killed them first so they started it first and now they have to stop first and also apologize for betrayal they did

 

[Informant]

May be gurkhas are fearless enough to engage taliban like this but as for as i know pakistani faujis try to avoid engaging taliban in direct combat, as there are always heavy casaulties in direct gun to gun battle, terrain is always helpful to taliban...the focus is on artillary shelling and tanks, gunship helicopters and back up of air force when taliban are offering very tough resistance....due to this fear of death in faujis, TTP darely attacks posts of army on mountains, ambushes caravans on road....As for as SSG commandos are concerned, they were used against taliban but ended up killed in surprisingly large numbers, now they are not used that much. Taliban themeselves are like commandos, infact more tough and sharp due to mountains being their home turf.
Aim of a fauji is to not get killed while aim of a taliban is to kill....army has not been able to defeat taliban because they are not natural predators like taliban, they are pre-occupied about returning safely to their families.

Yeah retard good going, stroke your own ego.

 

[Shah9]

So Sharia will establish in Pakistan?

We will be hearing belvaris, Shias, Sufis etc slaughtered into pieces.