TTP admits first time to having safe haven in Afghanistan

[Gandhi G in da house]

Indeed, they are our puppets and this is why they are slaughtering our soldiers. I mean how dumb can you guys get, hatred has clouded your judgement.

I think he meant Afghan Taliban/Haqqani network

 

[Baby Leone]

I would not be even surprised if TTP says tht they hide in India..

we all know that, Americans & NATO are failed in Aghanistan badly

 

[Haseebullah]

Possibility can not be ruled out but where is the proof ?

So when these bastard claim anything NOT in the interest of Pakistan,their word in taken as Biblical truth but now you are asking for proof?Juvenile you!
@Topic
The military offences carried out by PA has shattered most of this organization but due to the porous nature of the border as told before the militants have gone to the other side.This is something we could never avoid.Now Afghan forces and PA should collaborate to wipe them out wholesale,anyone assisting them is also terrorist so kill 'em all.We have had enough of this ****.
And Afghanistan needs to accept this fact,i mean come on,it is pretty damn obvious.

 

[ice_man]

The border regions of Afghanistan and Pakistan are such pain in the **** for this region . Either you guys seal it or bomb it or someone else will .

ya and india has sealed the border it has hasn't it??? if so then i guess the so called "infiltration" into india is not happening right? india is lying?

seal a border its not a big STEEL gate that you close and all things end!


anyhow back to the topic :

well finally the TTP admits to the truth!!

& i hope Pakistan asks NATO to do more!

 

[mjnaushad]

US Support ended after 1989 when the last soviet tank left afghan soil, who aided taliban to capture power in 1996? Pakistan had equal role in supporting mujahidden during soviet afghan war.

People of Afghanistan....... And the hell lot of weapons from the war.......

The border regions of Afghanistan and Pakistan are such pain in the **** for this region . Either you guys seal it or bomb it or someone else will .

The border can be sealed by cooperation of both countries.....As its not an easy region.... However Pakistan asked for the solution above many times but Afghan Govt. rejected it. We wonder why?

 

[KRAIT]

People have to understand the fact that members of group like TTP can easily propagate through the terrain which they are way more familiar than the security forces.

Also the efficiency counter-terrorists measure is dependent on spatial structure of the region. This variation makes it hard to have critical impact on insurgency.

 

[K-Xeroid]

Dear it was Pakistan that provided arms to these people with US funding to fight Soviet at the first place. Pakistan always considered AF as its own backyard and supported Taliban. So the weapons TTP acquires can come from AF itself. At the same time possibility of foreign hand can't be ignored as such terrorist groups which attack at this scale can't execute without any any aid/help.

Hey! Wat about the historical background, Afghanis claims theirselves as unbeatable fighter, even since before Pakistan's and indian independence, Even at then did Pakistan provided them weapons? Wat about opium trade, Sell opium and buy weapon? During Soviat's attack U.S reorganized Taliban to fight against Soviat threat but then after Soviat fall these group again splited into groups and started fighting against each other which later converted into civil war,

Soviet period (1979–1989)As the Afghan government began to lose control of provinces during the Soviet invasion of 1979–80, warlords flourished and with it opium production as regional commanders searched for ways to generate money to purchase weapons, according to the UN.(At this time the US was pursuing an "arms-length" supporting strategy of the Afghan freedom-fighters or Mujahideen, the main purpose being to cripple the USSR slowly into withdrawal through attrition rather than effect a quick and decisive overthrow. Source wikipedia

Now where is TTP? it appeared
In December 2007 about 13 groups united under the leadership of Baitullah Mehsud to form the Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan. Wiki
But now after defeat in operations they are operating from A-stan.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

The border regions of Afghanistan and Pakistan are such pain in the **** for this region . Either you guys seal it or bomb it or someone else will .

easier said than done if the people living there belong to both Afghanistan and Pakistan.

yes it can be done if either Pakistan or Afghanistan have a regime like Sadam Hussain or Stalin... who wont care about their own people like the invaders wont

you are talking about millions of people living on either side with relations dating back in time.

its the same case like Greece, Kurds, Baloch, Armenians etc etc.

in Iraq there is some sort of closure and Kurds are part of the mainstream politics and have somewhat autonomy.
the tribal system worked for centuries where they took care of themselves.

the international terrorism and the difference between the stated goals and hidden agenda of the Invading Americans have just made it a mess to figure out a feasible solution.

 

[alibaz]

US Support ended after 1989 when the last soviet tank left afghan soil, who aided taliban to capture power in 1996? Pakistan had equal role in supporting mujahidden during soviet afghan war.

Very innocent statement
US wanted Taliban to have control all over Afghanistan so that the oil and gas resources of Central Asia can be tapped when these Taliban failed to knock down Northern Alliance then OBL , AQ and extremist Taliban became reason for US to attack Afghanistan.

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

This is very bad. Whole Nato is there and Taliban are still crossing border and killing our soldiers

 

[Developereo]

i hope Pakistan asks NATO to do more!

"You are either with us or against us."

 

[alibaz]

While the third week of September saw an orchestrated verbal onslaught on Pakistan by the US policymakers and military brass, alleging it of providing support to the Haqqani network, there remains an eerie silence in US politico-military circles about the string of Taliban attacks on Pakistani border posts in Dir, Bajaur and Chitral. These large-sized attacks sporadically delivered during the last one year were launched from areas under the operational control of the US-led ISAF and their sidekick, the Afghan National Army (ANA), and were organised by well entrenched TTP and Afghan Taliban factions from bases maintained in border areas of Afghanistan.

The US desperate urgings for the overstretched Pak Army to commence operations against the Haqqani network in North Waziristan stand in marked contrast to its turning a Nelson’s eye to the anti-Pakistan witches’ brew viciously bubbling in the areas under US control on the Afghan side of the border. What is hard to stomach is that while the Kabul attack on the US Embassy, precipitating no casualty was treated as an act of war, Washington has persistently refused to accept responsibility for scores of casualties among Pakistani troops caused by the Afghan Taliban and the TTP fighters operating out of Nooristan and Kunar provinces.

While vicious attacks emanating from bordering provinces of Afghanistan have acquired a sickening frequency, two major incidents would amply reflect the pattern and perspective of such preventable aggression. In the beginning of June this year, 27 policemen were killed during battles in Shaltalu area in Dir when 500 terrorists belonging to the Maulvi Fazlullah-led group overran a police post. At least 16 policemen were captured and then brutally executed by the attackers, who released the video on the internet. Another major attack occurred in the last week of August when hundreds of armed militants from Nuristan and Kunar provinces of Afghanistan, attacked seven FC check posts situated around Arund locality in Chitral. Some 40 personnel belonging to the security forces, including 26 personnel of Chitral Scouts, 10 border guards and four FC soldiers laid down their lives in defence of the motherland. The attacks had been organised by Malvi Fazlullah and Maulvi Faqir Muhammad employing terrorists flushed out by Pak Army operations in Swat, Dir and Bajaur, along with the Afghan Taliban. Just in these two incidents the Pakistani security services and police had sustained over 80 casualties, without the US accepting any responsibility or suffering any pang of conscience over its failure to prevent the attacks launched from areas under its control. It is not hard to visualise what the consequences would have been for Pakistan, had a fraction of these casualties been inflicted upon the US/NATO forces by a breach of the Pak-Afghan border from the Pakistani side.

For the obsessed American soldiers and diplomats, the presence of anti-Pakistan terrorist factions on the Afghan side evokes no concern, while the consequence for Pakistan are painful to the extreme. The Afghan based terrorists are attacking Pakistani posts with impunity and are extending their activities to the major cities in Pakistan. Lack of action by US forces has permitted the anti-Pakistan Taliban element to rule the roost in Nooristan and Kunar provinces. It is worth recalling that on the pretext of cutting down its casualties, the American Army has pulled out its troops from the former, while only maintaining a nominal writ in the latter. This has permitted Maulvi Fazlullah of Swat fame to fill in the vacuum, as a major warlord commanding a force of a thousand fighters equipped with advanced weapons and state-of-the-art communication equipment. The US-induced freedom of action has even allowed him to overshadow the local Afghan Commander Dost Muhammad, who is constrained to accept a subordinate position in an area considered the hub of anti-Pakistan activities.

The northern Kunar province is the domain of the TTP affiliated Maulvi Faqir Muhammad who, commanding around 400 terrorists, has led attacks in the Bajaur area of Pakistan. In fact, the area between Kunar River and the border has become the hub of anti-Pakistan operations. Faqir Muhammad is known to be operating FM radio stations on the Afghan side of the border to raise funds and recruits and create anti-Pakistan frenzy. In the southern parts of Kunar province where ISAF works in close conjunction with the local administration, injured terrorists of the TTP receive medical treatment in the government run hospitals. Wali Muhammad is the key TTP commander here, enjoying the support of intelligence agencies of India and Afghanistan.

Nangarhar province is the abode of Mangal Bagh, the infamous terrorist leading Lashkar-i-Islam, who is raking trouble in Khyber as well as Aurakzai Agencies. Qari Bashir operates from Logar and Kabul, Paktia-Paktika-Khost provinces are infested with TTP elements affiliated with Hakimullah Mehsud, while Brahamdagh Bugti supported clan stationed in Kabul is closely supervising and directing the activities of insurgents based in Kandahar, Helmand and Nimroz provinces.

Juxtaposed with the US demands upon the overstretched Pakistan Army to expand its operations into North Waziristan, is the amazing nonchalance with which the American military leaders in Afghanistan treat the presence of key anti-Pakistan terrorist commanders and their forces in the areas adjoining border with Pakistan. Sustained by liaison provided by intelligence agencies hostile to Pakistan, this presence is malignant, leading to the loss of Pakistani lives – among both civilians and those in uniform. Pakistan has all the right to demand of US to neutralise the presence of these anti-Pakistan outfits on the Afghan soil. If the US can hold Pakistan to ransom over the Kabul attack, it itself has a lot to explain for the failure to curb terrorism emanating from areas in Afghanistan where it holds the sole responsibility for control. Or does it think that Pakistani blood comes cheap?

US Sponsored Cross Border Attacks on Pakistan`s Soil « PAKDEFENCEUNIT

 

[swathi]

Very innocent statement
US wanted Taliban to have control all over Afghanistan so that the oil and gas resources of Central Asia can be tapped when these Taliban failed to knock down Northern Alliance then OBL , AQ and extremist Taliban became reason for US to attack Afghanistan.

Who supported Taliban to capture power from 1991-1996? any one from Divine?

 

[xyxmt]

Possibility can not be ruled out but where is the proof ?

the proof letters and pictures are in the same folder with haqani's safe haven proofs

 

[K-Xeroid]

Who supported Taliban to capture power from 1991-1996? any one from Divine?

1991 to 1996 was a democratic era in Pakistan, and non-democratic establishment have supported terrorism in Afghan, Thats wat even Americans believes too. and Pakistan was never interested in controlling afghans and its obvious cuz we believes that afghan can't be controlled so why should we try such when we know that its not gon'na benefit us. why are you keep relating A-stan background with us when we were dealing with different problems while they were dealing with different problems.