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US President Donald Trump's administration appears ready to harden its approach toward Pakistan to crack down on Pakistan-based militants launching attacks in neighbouring Afghanistan, US officials tell Reuters.

Potential Trump administration responses being discussed include expanding US drone strikes, redirecting or withholding some aid to Pakistan and perhaps eventually downgrading Pakistan's status as a major non-NATO ally, the officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

Some US officials, however, are sceptical of the prospects for success, arguing that years of previous US efforts to curb Pakistan's support for militant groups have failed, and that already strengthening US ties to India, Pakistan's arch-enemy, undermine chances of a breakthrough with Islamabad.

US officials say they seek greater cooperation with Pakistan, not a rupture in ties, once the administration finishes a regional review of the strategy guiding the 16-year-old war in Afghanistan.

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The White House and Pentagon declined to comment on the review before its completion. Pakistan's embassy in Washington did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

“The United States and Pakistan continue to partner on a range of national security issues,” Pentagon spokesman Adam Stump said.

But the discussions alone suggest a shift toward a more assertive approach to address alleged safe havens in Pakistan that have been blamed for in part helping turn Afghanistan's war into an intractable conflict.

Experts on America's longest war argue that the alleged militant safe havens in Pakistan have allowed Taliban-linked insurgents a place to plot deadly strikes in Afghanistan and regroup after ground offensives.

Although long mindful of Pakistan, the Trump administration in recent weeks has put more emphasis on the relationship with Islamabad in discussions as it hammers out a the regional strategy to be presented to Trump by mid-July, nearly six months after he took office, one official said.

“We've never really fully articulated what our strategy towards Pakistan is. The strategy will more clearly say what we want from Pakistan specifically,” the US official said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

Other US officials warn of divisions within the government about the right approach and question whether any mix of carrots and sticks can get Islamabad to change its behaviour. At the end of the day, Washington needs a partner, even if an imperfect one, in nuclear-armed Pakistan, they say.

The United States is again poised to deploy thousands more troops in Afghanistan, an acknowledgement that US-backed forces are not winning and Taliban militants are resurgent. Without more pressure on militants allegedly within Pakistan who target Afghanistan, experts say additional US troop deployments will fail to meet their ultimate objective: to pressure the Taliban to eventually negotiate peace.

“I believe there will be a much harder US line on Pakistan going forward than there has been in the past,” Hamdullah Mohib, the Afghan ambassador to the United States, told Reuters, without citing specific measures under review.

Kabul has long been critical of Pakistan's role in Afghanistan
Pakistan fiercely denies allowing any militants safe haven on its territory. It bristles at US claims that Pakistan's spy agency, the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), has ties to Haqqani network militants blamed for some of the deadliest attacks in Afghanistan.

“What Pakistan says is that we are already doing a lot and that our plate is already full,” a senior Pakistani government source told Reuters, speaking on condition of anonymity.

The source doubted the Trump administration would press too hard, saying: “They don't want to push Pakistan to abandon their war against terrorism.”

Pakistani officials point towards the toll militancy has taken on the country. Since 2003, almost 22,000 civilians and nearly 7,000 Pakistani security forces have been killed as a result of militancy, according to the South Asia Terrorism Portal, which tracks violence.

Experts say Pakistan's policy towards Afghanistan is also driven in part by fears that India will gain influence in Afghanistan.

Is Pakistan an ally ?
Nuclear-armed Pakistan won the status as a major non-NATO ally in 2004 from the George Bush administration, in what was at the time seen in part as recognition of its importance in the US battle against Al Qaeda and Taliban insurgents.

The status is mainly symbolic, allowing limited benefits such as giving Pakistan faster access to surplus US military hardware.

Some US officials and experts on the region scoff at the title

“Pakistan is not an ally. Its not North Korea or Iran. But its not an ally,” said Bruce Riedel, a Pakistan expert at the Brookings Institution.

But yanking the title would be seen by Pakistan as a major blow.

“The Pakistanis would take that very seriously because it would be a slap at their honour,” said a former US official, speaking on condition of anonymity.

Lisa Curtis, senior director for South and Central Asia at the National Security Council, co-authored a report with Husain Haqqani, Pakistan's former ambassador to Washington, in which they recommended the Trump administration warn Pakistan the status could be revoked in six months.

“Thinking of Pakistan as an ally will continue to create problems for the next administration as it did for the last one,” said the February report.

It was unclear how seriously the Trump administration was considering the proposal.

The growing danger to Afghanistan from suspected Pakistan-based militants was underscored by a devastating May 31 truck bomb that killed more than 80 people and wounded 460 in Afghanistan's capital, Kabul.

Afghanistan's main intelligence agency alleged that the attack — one of the deadliest in memory in Kabul — had been carried out by the Haqqani network with assistance from Pakistan, a charge Islamabad denies.

Washington believes the strikes appeared to be the work of the Haqqani network, US officials told Reuters. US frustration over the Haqqani's alleged presence in Pakistan has been building for years. The United States designated the Haqqani network as a terrorist organisation in 2012. US Navy Admiral Mike Mullen, then the top US military officer, alleged in the Congress in 2011 that the Haqqani network was a “veritable arm” of the ISI.

The potential US pivot to a more assertive approach would be sharply different than the approach taken at the start of the Obama administration, when US officials sought to court Pakistani leaders, including the then Army chief General Ashfaq Kayani.

David Sedney, who served as Obama's deputy assistant secretary of defence for Afghanistan, Pakistan and Central Asia from 2009 to 2013, said the attempt to turn Islamabad into a strategic partner was a “disaster.” “It didn't affect Pakistan's behaviour one bit. In fact, I would argue it made Pakistan's behaviour worse,” Sedney said.

More drones, cash-off
Pakistan has received more than $33 billion in US assistance since 2002, including more than $14bn in so-called Coalition Support Funds (CSF), a US Defence Department programme to reimburse allies that have incurred costs in supporting counter-insurgency operations.

It is an important form of foreign currency for the nuclear-armed country and one that is getting particularly close scrutiny during the Trump administration review.

Last year, the Pentagon decided not to pay Pakistan $300 million in CSF funding after then-US Secretary of Defence Ash Carter declined to sign authorisation that Pakistan was taking adequate action against the Haqqani network.

US officials said the Trump administration was discussing withholding at least some assistance to Pakistan.

Curtis' report also singled out the aid as a target.

But US aid cuts could cede even more influence to China, which already has committed nearly $60bn in investments in Pakistan. Another option under review is broadening a drone campaign to penetrate deeper into Pakistan to target Haqqani fighters and other militants blamed for attacks in Afghanistan, US officials and a Pakistan expert said.

“Now the Americans (will be) saying, you aren't taking out our enemies, so therefore we are taking them out ourselves,” the Pakistan expert, who declined to be identified, said.

Chief of Army Staff Gen Qamar Javed Bajwa last week criticised “unilateral actions” such as drone strikes as “counterproductive and against (the) spirit of ongoing cooperation and intelligence sharing being diligently undertaken by Pakistan.”
 
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We don,t get anything excess under being Nato ally so what's the use of that honour. Showing up at Brussels for a conference is not a game changer for us. There is a very little chance of achieving any thing with that attitude. Pakistan can simply block access to the so called Nato ally altogether. Lets see Iran will let US to fly over their airspace. Short of naming Pakistan a terrorist state and putting sanctions US have tried everything before so nothing is new and we are still here. Its only helping US to be seen in Pakistan as a unreliable fair weather friend, back stabber and hardening Pakistan position and bringing Pakistan more closer to China. Soon there will be no takers left in Pakistan for US. Pakistan can join hands with Iran and arm Syria with all the goodies she possesses and see what US can do or alternatively Taliban can be rearmed and US will run from Afghanistan like it was chased out of Vietnam. Uncle we do have got few cards too if we are pushed. So called think tank members who never been to Pakistan in a decade haven;t got a clue ground realities have changed in Pakistan and Pakistan is not desperate for US aid or help and it can look after itself. Things can get awkward for Pakistan but Pakistan is a resilient country. Short of invading Pakistan US have got no chance to dictating us to change policy especially if its seen as helping India. Invading Pakistan will be a big mistake and Pakistan is no Iraq or Libya and then Pakistan have got allies too like China and now Russia. So before US shows its cards, US must know being getting along with Pakistan is much better then cornering. Best wishes to big Uncle and don't make any policy under the influence of Alcohol as and when you get up in the morning you may have a bad hangover and may last decades to come.
 
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With the US-Russia tensions simmering, do the folks in DC really want another Russia/China axis vis-a-vis Afganistan???? The Afgan folks won't get short in logistics!!!! Haven't we seen the initial part of the movie in Korea and then the final part in Vietnam????? Does the USA really need another Vietnam Memorial, architected by a Chinese American, with ~60K names engraved on it ?????? Losing these folks under the lose control of Pak to the Russia/China axis will be the ultimate disaster!!!!!
 
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These moronic Americans are in the mood of digging their own grave. Seeking conflict with every single nation on the planet. That is what happens when you have orangeman leading the pack. Let them make the move. We are waiting.
 
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Well i think otherwise, pakistan has become so dependent on the american aid money that it can not survive without that, pakistan has no leverage over the US, its them who are the real boss.

LOL I think you are living in a cave somewhere. American aid to Pakistan amounts to almost nothing. It has stopped. I think you missed the memo on the Pakistan hearings taking place on Capitol Hill in the past few years?

Besides, bring it on. We are tired of these fake threats. You got something to say just bring it in the open.

Orangeman is a blessing to settle scores. I hope he does something crazy to stir the hornets nest. These Americans are trouble everywhere. They can't sort out Syria, Afghanistan and other conflicts, but are after Pakistan LOL We'll see what happens. We are ready for all outcomes.
 
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All talk and no action on the part of the part of USA-terrorism has reared its serpent head emanating from Pakistan
but nothing done.The world should have taken action against Pakistani militants a decade ago. The cancer has spread-engulfing the whole world.NEVER TOO LATE
 
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Too late dumbass (Trump) Pakistan is in SCO. Can't mess with Pakistan without SCO getting involved now. :omghaha:
 
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while Pakistani on this forum act very confident ( based on daily lies from their Army about their physical state), their Army and rulers will bend backward again ..the way Musharaff did.

SCO and China will not come to your aid. If anything China will get worried about their investments. To think China will come to your aid is silly. Russia is supporting Syria for a reason , what has Pakistan to offer China . CPEC will get blow up in matter of day so China will tell you guys to bend again.
 
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while Pakistani on this forum act very confident ( based on daily lies from their Army about their physical state), their Army and rulers will bend backward again ..the way Musharaff did.

SCO and China will not come to your aid. If anything China will get worried about their investments. To think China will come to your aid is silly. Russia is supporting Syria for a reason , what has Pakistan to offer China . CPEC will get blow up in matter of day so China will tell you guys to bend again.

Says a dirty Indian who got mauled during the final. You can't even take action after your fake Mumbai attack LOL All your nation can do is bend backwards and stage a fake surgical strike LMAO according to your own government Pak armed forces entered Indian territory and mutilated your soldiers like dead pigs. We even escaped unharmed. LOL Talk about shameful admission.

Just stop talking and bring it on. Nations who mean business don't talk. They get to action.

Uncle Sam has accused Pakistan of all sorts. All they do is talk. We are sick and tired of old man Ted bloody Poe and that cunt Rohrabacher sitting in Capitol Hill and handing out fake lectures. We need some action because the empty threats are tiresome. Just wait how we return the favor in Afghanistan. We are going to annihilate Indian terror consulates. We are going to smoke you.

LOL Is that why a bunch of Indian beggars are begging China to disband CPEC on an hourly basis? Stupid Indian negro.
 
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LOL I think you are living in a cave somewhere. American aid to Pakistan amounts to almost nothing. It has stopped. I think you missed the memo on the Pakistan hearings taking place on Capitol Hill in the past few years?

Besides, bring it on. We are tired of these fake threats. You got something to say just bring it in the open.

Orangeman is a blessing to settle scores. I hope he does something crazy to stir the hornets nest. These Americans are trouble everywhere. They can't sort out Syria, Afghanistan and other conflicts, but are after Pakistan LOL We'll see what happens. We are ready for all outcomes.
you got billions of dollars in money. It is called CSF payments
 
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you got billions of dollars in money. It is called CSF payments

Yeah do something about it if you can.

That is called reimbursement for services. We didn't get the money for free. These Yanks have used our roads, supply routes, sea ports etc. for years. You pay for that. It ain't free lunch bitch. Pay upfront.

That time has gone now though. Time to fvck off and mind your own business.

Pakistan doesn't give a fvck about the war in opiumland. Your fvcking problem. Solve it.
 
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We don,t get anything excess under being Nato ally so what's the use of that honour. Showing up at Brussels for a conference is not a game changer for us. There is a very little chance of achieving any thing with that attitude. Pakistan can simply block access to the so called Nato ally altogether. Lets see Iran will let US to fly over their airspace. Short of naming Pakistan a terrorist state and putting sanctions US have tried everything before so nothing is new and we are still here. Its only helping US to be seen in Pakistan as a unreliable fair weather friend, back stabber and hardening Pakistan position and bringing Pakistan more closer to China. Soon there will be no takers left in Pakistan for US. Pakistan can join hands with Iran and arm Syria with all the goodies she possesses and see what US can do or alternatively Taliban can be rearmed and US will run from Afghanistan like it was chased out of Vietnam. Uncle we do have got few cards too if we are pushed. So called think tank members who never been to Pakistan in a decade haven;t got a clue ground realities have changed in Pakistan and Pakistan is not desperate for US aid or help and it can look after itself. Things can get awkward for Pakistan but Pakistan is a resilient country. Short of invading Pakistan US have got no chance to dictating us to change policy especially if its seen as helping India. Invading Pakistan will be a big mistake and Pakistan is no Iraq or Libya and then Pakistan have got allies too like China and now Russia. So before US shows its cards, US must know being getting along with Pakistan is much better then cornering. Best wishes to big Uncle and don't make any policy under the influence of Alcohol as and when you get up in the morning you may have a bad hangover and may last decades to come.

If push comes to shove the USAF can fly over Pakistani and Iranian airspace with impunity. The PAF is smart enough not to challenge them. I cannot say that for the Iranians

Keep dreaming Russia won't intervene in a America-Pakistan fight

Yeah do something about it if you can.

That is called reimbursement for services. We didn't get the money for free. These Yanks have used our roads and supply routes for years. You pay for that. It ain't free lunch bitch. Pay upfront.

That time has gone now. Time to fvck off and mind your own business.

what services ?? aid is aid. call it whatever you want.
 
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If push comes to shove the USAF can fly over Pakistani and Iranian airspace with impunity. The PAF is smart enough not to challenge them. I cannot say that for the Iranians

Keep dreaming Russia won't intervene in a America-Pakistan fight



what services ?? aid is aid. call it whatever you want.

LOL so what are you waiting for? Why beg Pakistan to do more each time if they can fly over us? Is it really that simple? Again empty bluff. Just bluff is all it is.

These Americans can't even sort out their crap in Syria and elsewhere LOL You can't convince us about anything. We know how tough and smart the Americans are. They got owned by Putin and are licking their wounds till this day. LOL at the fiasco in Iraq and Afghanistan. Pakistan is way way beyond their wildest dreams.

Pakistan belongs in the China camp. The US is history. They screwed up and they have lost all credibility. They have zero clout over us. All America and you can do now is cry. Cry about aid money LOL Who even cares.

LOL do something about it. The aid threat ain't gonna work fool. We provided services. You gonna use our roads and our ports you gonna pay. Capiche? You don't like our roads and ports you can piss off and use other routes leading to Afghanistan.
 
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