Trump says 'Iran made a very big mistake' after US military confirms it shot down American drone

[Sineva]

They can simply attack from distance,without risking lives.

Unfortunately for the us,they do have a lot of us personnel in the region at numerous bases,oh and the afghanistan occupation force,that are within range of irans retaliatory fire power.So there are potentially tens of thousands of us lives at risk,plus a lot of us military facilities and equipment/weapons as well.

 

[zectech]

Trump can not risk a war at this juncture. Iran played very smartly. Pentagon can squirm but can't do much here.

trump may need a war to get re-selected in 2020. Polls indicate trump would lose in 2020.

Amerika is sick of the orange clown.

It will be the pro-war 'keep bombing Iran' trump vs the send the troops home Biden or Sanders. Sanders would benefit from a war with Iran because Sanders would get anti-war Democrats all behind him. Biden would be more slushly and uncertain.

The only other way the Democrats could re-select the orange buffoon into a second term is a third party liberal.

 

[Sine Nomine]

Unfortunately for the us,they do have a lot of us personnel in the region at numerous bases,oh and the afghanistan occupation force,that are within range of irans retaliatory fire power.So there are potentially tens of thousands of us lives at risk,plus a lot of us military facilities and equipment/weapons as well.

They can withdraw their forces to safety.

 

[JohnWick]

An f22 still needs an airbase to operate from,and when its sitting on the ground in its shelter its very,very vulnerable...especially to something like a maneuvering terminally guided warhead[MaRV]

Or its quasi-ballistic little brothers like the dezful and zulfiqar.

Potentially very risky to attempt to operate aircraft out of bases within range of these sorts of weapons.....one big missile strike and bang goes your airbase,your aircraft,your personnel...
Its called area denial.

I think that's the reason they developed the naval version of F-35 lightening II

 

[Aramagedon]

@waz kindly merge these threads.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/trum...rms-it-shot-down-american-drone.624013/page-5

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/tension-escalate-as-irgc-shoots-down-us-spy-drone.623950/page-13

 

[-=virus=-]

But it was mentioned that the drone was shot down in International airspace which is also quite unclear cuz neither of them revealed where exactly it was brought down

Yeah, conflicting claims, let's wait for some concrete evidence and wreckage footage etc

 

[TheImmortal]

Yeah I know it's not B-52
It is B-2 spirit bomber
It will also assisted by B-1 lancer....View attachment 566044View attachment 566045

Most of the B-1 fleet is grounded.

But continue talking about things you clearly have no knowledge on.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/us-air-force-has-very-few-b-1-bombers-ready-combat-61082

 

[Sineva]

I thought they can also send some terminator type thing....

Oh,do you mean the T-800b trumpinators?

Yeah..,they dont actually work.They just run around in circles endlessly repeating nonsensical things like:
"Fvck you asshole" or "Make america great again" or "Covfefe"
And if you try to actually send them into combat they start a trade war with china.Just not one of americas better ideas I`m afraid,oh well.....

 

[Sineva]

They can withdraw their forces to safety.

You mean evacuate all of the american personnel from the me?.The potential political costs of such an act would likely be enormous,many in the region would see it as a us retreat even if it was only claimed to be temporary.

 

[fitpOsitive]

Trump says 'Iran made a very big mistake' after US military confirms it shot down American drone

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In a major provocation, Iran shot down an unarmed and unmanned U.S. RQ-4A Global Hawk drone while it was flying in international airspace over the Strait of Hormuz Thursday, U.S. Central Command confirmed in a statement.

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President Donald Trump tweeted Thursday morning that "Iran made a very big mistake."

Iran made a very big mistake!

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The incident is sure to trigger serious discussions within the Trump administration about how to respond to a direct attack on a U.S. military asset that goes beyond recent attacks in the Middle East that the U.S. has blamed on Iran.

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Mid-morning Thursday, White House press secretary Sarah Sanders said that President Trump has "been kept up to date" and was briefed both Thursday morning and Wednesday night. She said the White House would “keep in touch with members on the Hill” but would not confirm any White House meetings on Iran.


Gen. Hossein Salami, commander of Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, offered a strongly worded threat to the U.S. after the drone was downed.

"Shooting down the American spy drone had a clear, decisive, firm and accurate message," he said, translated from Farsi. "The message is that the guardians of the borders of Islamic Iran will decisively respond to the violation of any stranger to this land. The only solution for the enemies is to respect the territorial integrity and national interests of Iran."

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A full-scale model of The RQ-4 Global Hawk unmanned plane is displayed during a presentation at PiO Exhibition Center on March 24, 2010 in Tokyo, Japan.more +
"We do not intend to engage in war with any country, but we are completely ready for the war. Today’s incident is a clear sign of this accurate message," Salami added.

Earlier, Iranian state media had quoted Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps as saying it had downed the drone when it entered Iranian airspace near the Kouhmobarak district north of the Strait of Hormuz.

"Iranian reports that the aircraft was over Iran are false," said CENTCOM spokesperson Navy Capt. Bill Urban in a statement on Thursday morning. "This was an unprovoked attack on a U.S. surveillance asset in international airspace."

Urban said the RQ-4A Global Hawk, which "provides real-time intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance missions (ISR) over vast ocean and coastal regions," was shot down by an Iranian surface-to-air missile system while operating in international airspace over the Strait of Hormuz at approximately 11:35 p.m. GMT on June 19.

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In this undated photo released by Sepahnews, the website of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, Gen. Hossein Salami speaks in a meeting in Tehran, Iran.more +
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The incident is not the first time in recent days that Iran has targeted an American drone off its coast.

Last Thursday, Iran attempted to shoot down an MQ-9 Reaper that was surveilling the attack on one of two tankers in the Gulf of Oman. The United States has blamed Iran for being responsible for the attacks on the two tankers -- a claim Iran has denied.

"According to our assessment, a modified Iranian SA-7 surface-to-air missile attempted to shoot down a U.S. MQ-9, at 6:45 a.m. local time, June 13, over the Gulf of Oman, to disrupt surveillance of the IRGC attack on the M/T Kokuka Courageous," CENTCOM spokesperson Lt. Col. Earl Brown said in a statement to ABC News on Saturday.

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In a Monday, June 30, 2008, file photo, Beale Air Force Base Airmen work on an RQ-4 Global Hawk into its hangar at Beale Air Force Base in Yuba County, Calif. more +
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"Subsequent analysis indicates that this was a likely attempt to shoot down or otherwise disrupt the MQ-9 surveillance of the IRGC attack on the M/T Kokuka Courageous," Brown said.

In early May, the Pentagon rushed the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln and a B-52 bomber task force to the Middle East to deter possible attacks by Iran or Iranian-backed groups on U.S. forces and U.S. interests in the region.

ABC News' Elizabeth McLaughlin, Somaye Malekian and Meridith McGraw contributed to this report.

Dear USA, you are welcome.

 

[Oldman1]

You mean evacuate all of the american personnel from the me?.The potential political costs of such an act would likely be enormous,many in the region would see it as a us retreat even if it was only claimed to be temporary.

Indeed! It would be seen as surrendering the entire ME to Iran.

 

[Sineva]

I think that's the reason they developed the naval version of F-35 lightening II

In that case you`ll be limited just to naval f35s operating off of carriers parked 300-400kms out in the indian ocean,which means a 600-800km round trip just to reach the iranian coast and back,which is really going to kill your sortie rate not to mention limit the number of targets you can hit deep inside iran.

 

[JohnWick]

In that case you`ll be limited just to naval f35s operating off of carriers parked 300-400kms out in the indian ocean,which means a 600-800km round trip just to reach the iranian coast and back,which is really going to kill your sortie rate not to mention limit the number of targets you can hit deep inside iran.

I think if they deployed Patriotic missile systems then they can intercept any incoming ballistic missile and also can make a no fly zone so that they operate through Afghanistan....
I think tomahawks will be a major threat for Iranian air force runways .....

 

[LeGenD]

why you think if RQ-4 can't penetrate Iran Air Space but B-52 can ?

Hell of a difference between the two, but you are not very smart.

B-52H is a massive EW platform (jamming/spoofing radar systems and more) and can be armed with scores of standoff munitions. But of-course, it won't come in isolation.

Your excitement is duly noted but you are in for a rude awakening if USN is given the green light to act.

 

[JohnWick]

Your excitement is duly noted but you are in for a rude awakening if USN is given the green light to act.

Then what will USN do first?