Trump praises release of U.S.-Canadian family, says 'positive' for U.S.-Pakistan relations
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(CNN)An American woman, her Canadian husband and their three children have been freed from captivity by Pakistani security forces, nearly five years after being taken hostage by the Taliban-affiliated Haqqani Network in Afghanistan.
The initial word came from a Pakistani Army statement and was confirmed by US officials.
The couple, American Caitlan Coleman, 31, and her Canadian husband, Joshua Boyle, 33, were kidnapped in 2012 while they were traveling as tourists in Afghanistan and were held in captivity since.
Coleman was pregnant when she was kidnapped. The couple had two more children born in captivity.
In a statement, the Pakistani Army said US intelligence agencies had been tracking the hostages and shared intelligence with Pakistan when the family was moved to the country. US officials confirmed there was intelligence about their location in recent days that was shared with the Pakistanis.
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In the initial hours after their release, the family was still in Pakistan as arrangements were being made to return them to either the US or Canada.
"The operation by Pakistani forces, based on actionable intelligence from US authorities was successful; all hostages were recovered safe and sound and are being repatriated to the country of their origin," the statement said. "The success underscores the importance of timely intelligence sharing and Pakistan's continued commitment towards fighting this menace through cooperation between two forces against a common enemy."
A senior US official told CNN that US intelligence assets had detected and monitored the movement of vehicles that the US assessed to contain the family.
US officials provided this new intelligence to the Pakistani authorities and US officials even began unilaterally discussing a possible US-staged rescue attempt.
However, to the surprise of the US government, the Pakistani authorities soon called back their US counterparts, informing them that they had taken custody of all five family members.
"That was a surprise to us," the official said.
The US does not know at this point what the Pakistanis might have "said or did" on the ground to get the family back.
But the official added there is no evidence that any of the Haqqani members currently imprisoned by the government of Afghanistan have been released in a prisoner exchange.
The US is calling the Pakistani operation a "transfer of custody" because of the circumstances of how it unfolded the official said.
CNN National Security Analyst Peter Bergen spoke Thursday to Boyle's parents, Patrick and Linda Boyle, who have spoken to their son since his being freed from captivity. Patrick Boyle said that all of the recovered family members are OK. The parents also learned for the first time that they now have a granddaughter.
The senior US official said Joshua Boyle refused to board a US military C-130 bound for the US because "he thinks he will face law enforcement and possible arrest," though there is no indication at this time that he will face arrest.
The official said there are some questions surrounding his past. Boyle was previously married to the sister of Omar Kadhr, a Canadian citizen who was imprisoned for 10 years at the US detention facility in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, after fighting US troops in Afghanistan. Kadhr later sued the Canadian government for violating international law by allegedly not protecting its citizen and conspiring with his US captors, who he says abused him.
A Pakistani military official told CNN that the recovery operation was conducted by Pakistani intelligence agents with the Pakistani military helping to secure the perimeter. He said that the operation took place in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas in northwestern Pakistan while the family was being transported from one location to another.
President Donald Trump thanked Pakistan for its role in recovering the hostages Thursday during remarks before he signed an executive order on health care at the White House.
"The Pakistani government's cooperation is a sign that it is honoring America's wish that it do more to provide security in the region," Trump said,
"I want to thank Pakistan. They worked very hard on this and I believe they are starting to respect the United States again," Trump added.
Trump issued a statement earlier Thursday confirming the recovery of the hostages.
"The United States government, working in conjunction with the government of Pakistan, secured the release of the Boyle-Coleman family from captivity in Pakistan," the statement said.
"This is a positive moment for our country's relationship with Pakistan," Trump added, saying, "The Pakistani government's cooperation is a sign that it is honoring America's wishes for it to do more to provide security in the region."
Trump has made getting tougher with Pakistan in an effort to get them to crackdown on the Taliban a central tenet of his recently announced strategy for Afghanistan and the wider region.
"We hope to see this type of cooperation and teamwork in helping secure the release of remaining hostages and in our future joint counterterrorism operations," Trump said in the statement.
White House press secretary Sarah Sanders told reporters Thursday that the successful recovery of the family was what was being referenced Wednesday when Trump told a crowd in Pennsylvania that "something happened today where a country that totally disrespected us called with some very, very important news."
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Trump did not disclose what country or any details involved but said "one of my generals came in and they said, you know, I have to tell you, a year ago they would have never done that."
"This is a country that did not respect us, this is a country that respects us now. The world is starting to respect us again, believe me," Trump said appearing to reference Pakistan and that country's role in bringing about the the recovery of the four hostages.
US intelligence officials believed the couple was being held by the Haqqani Network, a branch of the Taliban believed to be responsible for some of the group's most violent and sophisticated attacks. In December the commander of US forces in Afghanistan, Gen. John Nicholson, said the Haqqani Network held a total of five American hostages.
The Taliban released a "proof of life" video of Coleman, Boyle and their two children in December 2016 where Coleman addressed President Barack Obama and then President-elect Trump, saying the Taliban "are not going to simply release our family easily, because it is correct. They want money, power and friends. ... We are told there are Afghans who are prisoners in Kabul that these men care about."
The Afghan government has captured several senior members of the Haqqani Network and US officials believed the Taliban faction had hoped to exchange American hostages for their release.
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The US military has long believed that Pakistan's principal intelligence organization, the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) agency, has maintained links with the Taliban, particularly the Haqqani Network.
"I think it's clear to me that the ISI has connections with terrorist groups," Gen. Joseph Dunford, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told a Senate Armed Services Hearing on Afghanistan and South Asia last week, using the Pakistan intelligence agency's acronym.
Trump has previously slammed Pakistan for not doing enough to combat terrorist groups like the Haqqani Network.
Trump has made getting tougher with Pakistan in an effort to get them to crack-down on the Taliban a central tenant of his recently announced strategy for Afghanistan and the wider region.
"We can no longer be silent about Pakistan's safe havens for terrorist organizations, the Taliban, and other groups that pose a threat to the region and beyond," Trump said during his August speech announcing the new strategy.
And while Trump labeled Pakistan "a valued partner" in the past, he also said the US had "been paying Pakistan billions and billions of dollars at the same time they are housing the very terrorists that we are fighting."
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"That will have to change, and that will change immediately," Trump added, saying "No partnership can survive a country's harboring of militants and terrorists who target U.S. service members and officials."
Secretary of Defense James Mattis has already withheld millions in military funding from Pakistan due to the Pentagon's view that Islamabad has not "taken sufficient action against the Haqqani Network."
The Taliban continue to hold other western hostages including US citizen Kevin King, 60, and Australian citizen Timothy Weeks, 48. Both men were working as teachers at the American University of Afghanistan in Kabul when they were forcibly kidnapped from a vehicle in August 2016.
In September, three administration officials told CNN that US Special Operations Forces from SEAL Team 6 attempted to rescue the two teachers shortly after they were kidnapped but the captives were not at the location the US forces raided.
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Paul Overby in Maine in 2013
One other American is believed to be held hostage in Afghanistan or Pakistan: writer Paul Overby, who is in his 70s.
Guys just read the bold part above , They were planning one more OBL type raid , this time may be in any Big city............... They did shear the intelligence and our guys just acted ASAP, Because they knew what USA did in OBL case.
They been freed after firefight , and one more drama ended before it can start. To me USA want to use this as excuse against Pakistan, Dam they cant rescue them in Afganistan in 5 years even after intelligence,,,,,, Does killing of Talban leader "coming from Iran" remind you any thing?
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(CNN)An American woman, her Canadian husband and their three children have been freed from captivity by Pakistani security forces, nearly five years after being taken hostage by the Taliban-affiliated Haqqani Network in Afghanistan.
The initial word came from a Pakistani Army statement and was confirmed by US officials.
The couple, American Caitlan Coleman, 31, and her Canadian husband, Joshua Boyle, 33, were kidnapped in 2012 while they were traveling as tourists in Afghanistan and were held in captivity since.
Coleman was pregnant when she was kidnapped. The couple had two more children born in captivity.
In a statement, the Pakistani Army said US intelligence agencies had been tracking the hostages and shared intelligence with Pakistan when the family was moved to the country. US officials confirmed there was intelligence about their location in recent days that was shared with the Pakistanis.
Read More
In the initial hours after their release, the family was still in Pakistan as arrangements were being made to return them to either the US or Canada.
"The operation by Pakistani forces, based on actionable intelligence from US authorities was successful; all hostages were recovered safe and sound and are being repatriated to the country of their origin," the statement said. "The success underscores the importance of timely intelligence sharing and Pakistan's continued commitment towards fighting this menace through cooperation between two forces against a common enemy."
A senior US official told CNN that US intelligence assets had detected and monitored the movement of vehicles that the US assessed to contain the family.
US officials provided this new intelligence to the Pakistani authorities and US officials even began unilaterally discussing a possible US-staged rescue attempt.
However, to the surprise of the US government, the Pakistani authorities soon called back their US counterparts, informing them that they had taken custody of all five family members.
"That was a surprise to us," the official said.
The US does not know at this point what the Pakistanis might have "said or did" on the ground to get the family back.
But the official added there is no evidence that any of the Haqqani members currently imprisoned by the government of Afghanistan have been released in a prisoner exchange.
The US is calling the Pakistani operation a "transfer of custody" because of the circumstances of how it unfolded the official said.
CNN National Security Analyst Peter Bergen spoke Thursday to Boyle's parents, Patrick and Linda Boyle, who have spoken to their son since his being freed from captivity. Patrick Boyle said that all of the recovered family members are OK. The parents also learned for the first time that they now have a granddaughter.
The senior US official said Joshua Boyle refused to board a US military C-130 bound for the US because "he thinks he will face law enforcement and possible arrest," though there is no indication at this time that he will face arrest.
The official said there are some questions surrounding his past. Boyle was previously married to the sister of Omar Kadhr, a Canadian citizen who was imprisoned for 10 years at the US detention facility in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, after fighting US troops in Afghanistan. Kadhr later sued the Canadian government for violating international law by allegedly not protecting its citizen and conspiring with his US captors, who he says abused him.
A Pakistani military official told CNN that the recovery operation was conducted by Pakistani intelligence agents with the Pakistani military helping to secure the perimeter. He said that the operation took place in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas in northwestern Pakistan while the family was being transported from one location to another.
President Donald Trump thanked Pakistan for its role in recovering the hostages Thursday during remarks before he signed an executive order on health care at the White House.
"The Pakistani government's cooperation is a sign that it is honoring America's wish that it do more to provide security in the region," Trump said,
"I want to thank Pakistan. They worked very hard on this and I believe they are starting to respect the United States again," Trump added.
Trump issued a statement earlier Thursday confirming the recovery of the hostages.
"The United States government, working in conjunction with the government of Pakistan, secured the release of the Boyle-Coleman family from captivity in Pakistan," the statement said.
"This is a positive moment for our country's relationship with Pakistan," Trump added, saying, "The Pakistani government's cooperation is a sign that it is honoring America's wishes for it to do more to provide security in the region."
Trump has made getting tougher with Pakistan in an effort to get them to crackdown on the Taliban a central tenet of his recently announced strategy for Afghanistan and the wider region.
"We hope to see this type of cooperation and teamwork in helping secure the release of remaining hostages and in our future joint counterterrorism operations," Trump said in the statement.
White House press secretary Sarah Sanders told reporters Thursday that the successful recovery of the family was what was being referenced Wednesday when Trump told a crowd in Pennsylvania that "something happened today where a country that totally disrespected us called with some very, very important news."
<img alt="Afghanistan: 16 years, thousands dead and no clear end in sight" class="media__image" src="//i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/160706103928-05-us-afghanistan-file-large-169.jpg">
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Trump did not disclose what country or any details involved but said "one of my generals came in and they said, you know, I have to tell you, a year ago they would have never done that."
"This is a country that did not respect us, this is a country that respects us now. The world is starting to respect us again, believe me," Trump said appearing to reference Pakistan and that country's role in bringing about the the recovery of the four hostages.
US intelligence officials believed the couple was being held by the Haqqani Network, a branch of the Taliban believed to be responsible for some of the group's most violent and sophisticated attacks. In December the commander of US forces in Afghanistan, Gen. John Nicholson, said the Haqqani Network held a total of five American hostages.
The Taliban released a "proof of life" video of Coleman, Boyle and their two children in December 2016 where Coleman addressed President Barack Obama and then President-elect Trump, saying the Taliban "are not going to simply release our family easily, because it is correct. They want money, power and friends. ... We are told there are Afghans who are prisoners in Kabul that these men care about."
The Afghan government has captured several senior members of the Haqqani Network and US officials believed the Taliban faction had hoped to exchange American hostages for their release.
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The US military has long believed that Pakistan's principal intelligence organization, the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) agency, has maintained links with the Taliban, particularly the Haqqani Network.
"I think it's clear to me that the ISI has connections with terrorist groups," Gen. Joseph Dunford, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told a Senate Armed Services Hearing on Afghanistan and South Asia last week, using the Pakistan intelligence agency's acronym.
Trump has previously slammed Pakistan for not doing enough to combat terrorist groups like the Haqqani Network.
Trump has made getting tougher with Pakistan in an effort to get them to crack-down on the Taliban a central tenant of his recently announced strategy for Afghanistan and the wider region.
"We can no longer be silent about Pakistan's safe havens for terrorist organizations, the Taliban, and other groups that pose a threat to the region and beyond," Trump said during his August speech announcing the new strategy.
And while Trump labeled Pakistan "a valued partner" in the past, he also said the US had "been paying Pakistan billions and billions of dollars at the same time they are housing the very terrorists that we are fighting."
<img alt="Who are the key players in Afghanistan?" class="media__image" src="//i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170825121302-afghanistan-war-tease-01-large-169.jpg">
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"That will have to change, and that will change immediately," Trump added, saying "No partnership can survive a country's harboring of militants and terrorists who target U.S. service members and officials."
Secretary of Defense James Mattis has already withheld millions in military funding from Pakistan due to the Pentagon's view that Islamabad has not "taken sufficient action against the Haqqani Network."
The Taliban continue to hold other western hostages including US citizen Kevin King, 60, and Australian citizen Timothy Weeks, 48. Both men were working as teachers at the American University of Afghanistan in Kabul when they were forcibly kidnapped from a vehicle in August 2016.
In September, three administration officials told CNN that US Special Operations Forces from SEAL Team 6 attempted to rescue the two teachers shortly after they were kidnapped but the captives were not at the location the US forces raided.
<img alt="Paul Overby in Maine in 2013" class="media__image" src="//i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170105100420-overby1-large-169.jpeg">
Paul Overby in Maine in 2013
One other American is believed to be held hostage in Afghanistan or Pakistan: writer Paul Overby, who is in his 70s.
Guys just read the bold part above , They were planning one more OBL type raid , this time may be in any Big city............... They did shear the intelligence and our guys just acted ASAP, Because they knew what USA did in OBL case.
They been freed after firefight , and one more drama ended before it can start. To me USA want to use this as excuse against Pakistan, Dam they cant rescue them in Afganistan in 5 years even after intelligence,,,,,, Does killing of Talban leader "coming from Iran" remind you any thing?
@El Sidd , @Verve , @HAKIKAT , @Path-Finder , @Zarvan , @Windjammer , @Mrc
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like all the unilateral attempts they did in past 5 years in their own controlled and conquered Afghanistan while poor lady was busy giving births in a mud hut
nope they crossed over on 11th ...day before her rescue
that's a comment without reference.... if they had threatened a raid... it would have been counter productive
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The news is being spun spectacularly in favour of the yanks who had intelligence on couple kidnapped in afghanistan and once they crossed Pakistan they wanted to stage rescue. this is a failing for Pakistan there are no decent English outlets to beat the drum.
regardless this is highly fishy. there are many holes in this saga that for the time being is draped in excess american propaganda in favour of the yanks.
I will once again raise the question! how did ISIS in Afghanistan get dropped on Pakistani border by helicopters???
They do nothing in afghanistan other than bombing weddings and hospitals yet ISIS grows in territory under their control.
regardless this is highly fishy. there are many holes in this saga that for the time being is draped in excess american propaganda in favour of the yanks.
I will once again raise the question! how did ISIS in Afghanistan get dropped on Pakistani border by helicopters???
They do nothing in afghanistan other than bombing weddings and hospitals yet ISIS grows in territory under their control.
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Lol ok I'm gonna follow u now sir I love your posts LOL
Wow, how a "think tank" calculate "F-16s and more US dollars" from country that threatening Pakistan every other day and just blocked Jordanian 3rd party sell???? Is "think tank" that gullible to live just for some white man praise? And what about any self respect or that is a prohibited in "think tank" world?
Not to mention consideration of US sanction that would make F16 a HIGH risk proposition.
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They want to use this family as excuse , they want to bring more bad name on Pakistan and may be sanctions. I give dam about there(family) story but there(USA's) motive was very clear.
We need that Fence on Afghan border ASAP, we also have to Trench our border.
Yes it looks like they want to rescue them in Pakistan using there SFs , Yes that's going to be very counter productive but USA wants that................... Don't forget the killing of Mulla Mansor , he was not killed in Afghnistan , not in Iran but as soon as he enter Pakistan they killed him.....................
We need that Fence on Afghan border ASAP, we also have to Trench our border.
Yes it looks like they want to rescue them in Pakistan using there SFs , Yes that's going to be very counter productive but USA wants that................... Don't forget the killing of Mulla Mansor , he was not killed in Afghnistan , not in Iran but as soon as he enter Pakistan they killed him.....................
And ISIS is USA , they are here for Pakistan , China and Russia!!!!!!!!! Iran too......... actually Iran is first in this list. For Pakistan 2 front war is real now,,,,,,,,,,, we need more FC and we need to have Army training program for Youth , NCC type if you are old you may remember that.
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Anyways Indians are not amused with this latest development of US-Pak cooperation, regardless of Trump's words. There is no news of this on Indian media for e.g TOI. India will always want Pakistan not to 'respect' US.
Trump has little to say in media since his own media has started grilling him on many issues so White House will try to take maximum credit for it but in either way, it is a positive development for both US and Pak since bad relations will not solve purpose for any country other than India. Hopefully that respect thing remains between both the countries moving forward.
Trump has little to say in media since his own media has started grilling him on many issues so White House will try to take maximum credit for it but in either way, it is a positive development for both US and Pak since bad relations will not solve purpose for any country other than India. Hopefully that respect thing remains between both the countries moving forward.
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OBL happened to save zardari. this happend to save who?
cant agree more here..... FC is now a professional force... its time to gradually double its size... eventually giving most of tribal area responsibilities to it
Question to ask US and Afghan stooges:
1) Why US could not rescue these people while they were in "captivity" in Afghan territory???
2) Why US waited until they crossed Pakistan border and asked Pakistan to rescue instead???
1) Why US could not rescue these people while they were in "captivity" in Afghan territory???
2) Why US waited until they crossed Pakistan border and asked Pakistan to rescue instead???
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This time not for Saving any one , they don't need NS , this time they want to put sanctions or they will get what they want , (mainly they want our help against Iran).
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3)ISIS was dropped by helicopter on Pakistani border. Can they clear this issue before trying OLB raid 2???
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