That's not what I was saying, that's for the people claiming the West had sided with the MB.
Stop using the term 'sides', first it implies that there's loyalty between corners when there isn't any. The MB cooperated with the 'west' before power (after the revolution) and during their short term of power, once toppled and without a paddle they were sold down the river as Mubarak was.
. Btw, the US was communicating with Egypt's military, Sisi was the military commander while Morsi was serving his term
It would have been abnormal if there wasn't daily communication between both sides.
Nothing was that different in the military.
Other than 2,500 senior officers made redundant and major reforms plus an extensive PR campaign, yes not much changed.
What's SCAF? I'm not understanding what you're trying to get across.
Senior Council of the Armed Forces i.e the top brass. My point is that both the military and the MB are different sides of the same coin except the MB is a lot more shall we say dimwitted.
The coalition government made up of less than 42% MB seats had Sisi appointed as the military commander. So what do you mean by 'cooperate with the military'?
Not cooperate with the military but with the United States, if all cooperation with the states ceased it would put the Egyptian Armed Forces in a somewhat compromised position for a few years given the extent of the relationship and the effects that would have on the Camp David peace treaty, for a few at least, until another strategic partner i.e Russia/China would be willing to cooperate
fully with Egypt (something which may already be happening with Russia due to the US cutting FMF). No one wants to be an Iran, (a pariah state) even if for a few years.
I just posted a link and gave several occurrences.
That doesn't prove conspiracy, that's twisting opinion and/or fact to fit a certain narrative.
Things happened that were unusual and events that followed such as the UAE and Saudi Arabia pledging billions in military aid to Egypt. This was something planned to happen and it was approved if not directed by the US. Those gulf countries don't give military aid around to whom they wish especially with a country like Egypt. Even when it comes to Syrian rebels they only do what's within the limit and what America permits
Ever heard of rhetoric. The Egyptian military hasn't received any military aid from any countries other than the US through the FMF system. The recent arms deal with Russia has been financed by the Egyptian Armed Forces only.
Tourism was in the gutter during the period of a major revolution in which areas of the country were shut down basically. This is self explanatory, however, following those events there was speculation the MB would win democratic elections and take power. This is when European, US and Israeli media began running stories against the MB and the 'dangers' of visiting Egypt and they publicized these stories as much as possible including fake news that they wanted to tear down the historic pyramids which Christian media in the United States constantly pushed along with other half truths.
The situation was absolutely terrible though. There was no security, protests and deaths continued, and there were horrific incidents like that of the Ahly vs Masry game in Por Sayeed, even my parents were turned off going to Egypt not from the media but from our family at home, family friends were being kidnapped for ransom or robbed, cars being jacked, thieves and thugs running neighbourhoods, people being killed, armed robberies etc. etc. etc.
Even without a media campaign which highlighted idiotic self proclaimed clerics spouting nonsense who were given free reign after the MB was elected Egypt was by no means a safe and tourist friendly country. Still isn't.
Where are you getting is idea and which nation? Egypt was going for IMF loans but that shouldn't have happened.
Qatar. I remember a certain Mohammed Morsi saying Egyptian won't live off riba but then he went for an IMF loan and the interest was stricken off as administration fees hmm.
It wasn't one incident, I have you an report on it.
Well done, still doesn't prove anything. Corruption is rife within Egypt, if you have an indepemdant report on whether there were orders by the SCAF to withhold fuel then we can talk.
So this sudden fuel crisis cake out of nowhere?
No, it was a
chronic problem further exasperated by a secuirity vacuum allowing subsidised fuel to be smuggled to Libya, Sudan, Gaza, and to EU vessels off the coast and allowed corrupt officials to hoard fuel resulting in a price hike then to be sold at a high price in the black market.
That's a big part of why they attacked Gaza, not to see if Egypt would retaliate, but to put them to test and get political advantages out of it in the Sinai.
Preposterous. They received the same response they always get from Egypt, mediation, ceasefire until it all kicks off again.
How would I get evidence of covert activities?
So you're literally talking out of your arse. You have no proof and alter 'evidence' to fit a narrative as if you've busted the big CIA, MOSSAD,MI6,KGB, FSB,HIJAB, NIQAB conspiracy to remove the MB from power.
Was there evidence in past CIA military coups at the certain time? No, the information came out decades later.
And all of which took a long time to prepare and execute for a reason and all took place because US interests were at stake, they weren't in Egypt.
The Camp David treaty wasn't under threat, nor was the Suez canal nor the US's flights over Egypt nor the essential natural gas pipelines in the Sinai or through the delta. The military had retained all its powers in the new constitution, its budget was still confidential, there was still no civilian oversight, its business enterprise was safe, and it maintained the right to try civilians in a military court.
Also with Iran, if it wasn't for Iranians, the CIA/MI5 overthrowing wouldn't have been an major event today.
MI5 doesn't work abroad, that's MI6.
Yes, I am accusing him of bribery, he got a nobel peace prize for doing nothing besides the thing with Iran.
Possibly prevent another war in the Middle East, yes, not a biggy nor was helping to stop the legal invasion of Iraq.
He doesn't just show up mysteriously taking the stage in such a situation.
It wasn't mysterious nor did he just show up. He was part of the National Salvation block and set up the Constitutional Party and was one of the main opposition figures in Egypt before the coup.
Don't play stupid with me. If someone would listen to you lecture them all day they would think Egypt is a more developed state than the United States.
No.
He's looking to the West to give him credibility. The West was just talking when it came to the aftermath and it's process. They know what's going to happen and were looking forward it and always wanted Egypt to stay a military dictatorship.
They don't care if its a military dictatorship or the most colourful democracy history has ever seen, as long as their interests are served then they won't have problem who's running the damn place. The west has zero influence in Egypt now and he doesn't need credibility from the west, he's already the most popular man in Egypt.
