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Mughals = Mongols.

The Turks from Central Asia, which the Mughals are relatet are mixed with Mongols which invaded Turkic Areas under Dshingis Khan. Later the Mongols in Turkic Areas also convetred to Islam and mixed with Turkic Populations of Central Asia.

Timur had Mongol Ancestor, but he spoke a Turkic Language called "Chagatai". Chagatai was widespreadet in Central Asia. Durring the first Time in Mughal Empire Chagatai were an executive Language.
 
Aw geez... Not at ALL... this is a western over simplification. Babur was not a Mongol. His mother claimed descent from Chengez Khan, but his father was Timurid.

Timur also claims ancestory from Genghis Khan. Mughal is Perisan for Mongol..

Babur came from the fragmented part of the Mongol empire, Chagatai Khanate..
 
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First of all India was NOT under Muslim rule for 1000 years..I guess you are not including South-India,Marathas,Sikhs and Rajputs in your INDIA..

Regarding Muhammad Bin Qasim,Mahmood Ghaznavi and Muhammad Ghouri..
They were looters who had a great fighting force at their disposal who plundered the Hindukush region and this was a normal thing those days..

If i have to choose the most powerful King in the Indian subcontinent , I would choose Chandragupta Mourya , Ashok , Porus (i know many people here believe that Alexandar defeated Porus but what i have come to know after extensive research ,thats not the truth.) , Shershah Suri , Hyder Ali,Tipu Sultan and Maharaja Ranjeet singh..
you forgot akbar
 
Thought Mongols were from central asia like Genghis khan and co
 
Timur, Ghazni, Muhhamed-Bin-Qasim, etc looted and brought the loot back to their land. Mughals, India was their land.

I beg to differ..Mughals did not like the people of indian subcontinent (that includes Muslims )..For reference you can read BABARNAAMA..They settled here because they had no other option.

Only single sane ruler was AKBAR . After him every single ruler of mughal dynasty harmed indian subcontinent..
 
The Turks were/are just awesome... I was recently in Turkey and visited the military museum there. Here is a picture I took, depicting the spread of the Turks from Anatolia to the far reaches of the known world.

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Turk/Turkic is a lingustic term like Indo-European. Turks can be Caucasoid in Anantolia and Mongoloid in other parts or mix in Central Asia.. How many Anatolians have Turkic genes from Central asia? It people united by common language.. I can tell the difference from an Anatolian and a Central Asian Turk..

Timurid claims he is a descendent of Genghis Khan, just like Babur. I am not doubting that.
 
TechLahore said:
Ultimately we all claim ancestry from Adam

Muslims or all Humans :D



but the Timurid line is distinct and separate from the Mongols.

Timur was a descendant of Genghiz Khan

One of Timur's ancestors who was known by the name "kara-sharnoban" embraced Islam and married the daughter of Chagatai Khan (son of Genghis Khan)
 
First of all India was NOT under Muslim rule for 1000 years..

India has certainly been under Muslim rule for > 1000 years, but not ALL of India has been ruled by Muslims for this period. Just wanted to clarify.
 
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