Time to take a firm stand on the Durand Line

[Icewolf]

The Afghans only claim their natural boundary is the Indus and Attock. Not Wagah.

And Muslims should claim that their whole land is South Asia's Mughal Empire boundary right.... This is the only way to solve Kashmir...


We have more Pathans than whole of Afghanistan and Im sure they dont want to be with Afghanistan seeing the incident in Bajaur when Afghan Army tried to take control of it, when our our Pushtuns kicked their *** and sent them back home... We didnt even have to send in PA, true story..


Keep your *** where you can actually debate Indian Kiddo or GTFO this forum

 

[Armstrong]

And Muslims should claim that their whole land is South Asia's Mughal Empire boundary right.... This is the only way to solve Kashmir...


We have more Pathans than whole of Afghanistan and Im sure they dont want to be with Afghanistan seeing the incident in Bajaur when Afghan Army tried to take control of it, when our our Pushtuns kicked their *** and sent them back home... We didnt even have to send in PA, true story..


Keep your *** where you can actually debate Indian Kiddo or GTFO this forum

I feel as much anger as you do but tu nei ban honaa hai kiya ? Edit maar yaaraa.

 

[Areesh]

I don't know why are we discussing this "issue". So what if Afghans claim KP, Baluchistan and FATA? What they can do about it? Nothing. So why waste time on this? There are other topics where we can troll and fight up to 15 pages. This one doesn't deserve a 15 pages discussion.

 

[KS]

And Muslims should claim that their whole land is South Asia's Mughal Empire boundary right.... This is the only way to solve Kashmir...


We have more Pathans than whole of Afghanistan and Im sure they dont want to be with Afghanistan seeing the incident in Bajaur when Afghan Army tried to take control of it, when our our Pushtuns kicked their *** and sent them back home... We didnt even have to send in PA, true story..


Keep your *** where you can actually debate Indian Kiddo or GTFO this forum

I dont know why you got upset when I just corrected Fauji when he said Afghans would later claim Dilli also. I have never met one afghan who has claimed Dilli. All they claim - rightly or wrongly is the territory till Indus.

Durand Line is a issue between Afg and Pak and you two as brothers should solve this issue peacefully.

India has no stake in this scenario and I merely corrected Fauji who thinks India also has a stake.

 

[Areesh]

I dont know why you got upset when I just corrected Fauji when he said Afghans would later claim Dilli also. I have never met one afghan who has claimed Dilli.

Durand Line is a disputed issue between Afg and Pak and you two as brothers should solve this issue peacefully.

India has no stake in this scenario and I merely corrected Fauji who thinks India also has a stake.

Technically there isn't any dispute. For us Pakistanis the issue is closed and settled. If we need to talk about Durand Line with Afghans then it would be about how to secure it better so that militants and miscreants don't cross it easily not on the legality of Durand Line.

 

[pakdefender]

afghans and their hindu brothers have been trying their luck with this durrand line thing since september of 1947.

In the meeting of NWFP Congress in Charsada on 3rd september 1947 , not even a month into Pakistan's independance ( 14th August 1947 ) , afghans joined hands with their hindu brothers from india to bring down the newly formed state of Pakistan by propogating speratist aspriations in the various ethnic groups that make up Pakistan.

end result ... EPIC FAIL!!

 

[pakdefender]

I dont know why you got upset when I just corrected Fauji when he said Afghans would later claim Dilli also. I have never met one afghan who has claimed Dilli. All they claim - rightly or wrongly is the territory till Indus.

Durand Line is a issue between Afg and Pak and you two as brothers should solve this issue peacefully.

India has no stake in this scenario and I merely corrected Fauji who thinks India also has a stake.

Liar, United Pakhtoonistan Front (UPF) was formed in New Delhi in June of 1967 under the Chairmanship of Mehr Chand Khanna who was the former minister of finance of NWFP.

 

[FaujHistorian]

.....aren't you forgetting you are just losing 2 provinces KP/FATA and Balochistan? do you have some other 14 points for them or I should represent it to you?

May be.

Just explain to me how Ahmad Shah Masood's followers can snatch 2 provinces from 200 million strong Pakistan. Just explain please.

I tell this to everyone on this board. There is a thing called Karma.

Afghanistanis like yourself should remember not to wish the dismemberment of Pakistan. Why?

Karma may end up dismembering Pashtun areas of Afghanistan too.

20 million Afghnaistanis (same population as one large city of Pakistan) cannot face off Pakistanis.

Not in the post WWII period.

sure Afghanistanis can fan a lot of instability in Pakistan,

but ultimately it will hurt Afghanistan much more.

The same thing is true, if we the Pakistanis create trouble in Indian Kashmir, it will hurt us more in the long run.

Why. The same way Indians are 10 times larger in every which way compared to Pakistan.

Pakistanis too are 10 times larger in every which way compared to Afghanistan.

In some ways, the loose talk done by the likes of you have encouraged sections in Pakistani establishment to stab Afghanistan really deep.

Had you guys been smarter, you won't pick fights with the next door neighbor who by the way is ONLY duty free land route and the cheepest land route for every ounce of fuel and every ounce of grain for your people.

Why are you hell bent on putting holes in your food bowl?

Why?

Are you than ignorant of the reality? or you like so many Jih@dis are sitting in a Western country, so you can eat your pancakes while Afghanistani masses suffer for a simple piece of bread.

Just think my dear poster. Just think before you dump $hite on Pakistan.


Thank you

 

[DRaisinHerald]

My dream is stable, prosperous and strong Afghanistan , the first step towards it is accepting durand line and making friendship with Pakistan.

...you're Afghan aren't ya?

 

[FaujHistorian]

afghans and their hindu brothers have been trying their luck with this durrand line thing since september of 1947.

In the meeting of NWFP Congress in Charsada on 3rd september 1947 , not even a month into Pakistan's independance ( 14th August 1947 ) , afghans joined hands with their hindu brothers from india to bring down the newly formed state of Pakistan by propogating speratist aspriations in the various ethnic groups that make up Pakistan.

end result ... EPIC FAIL!!

Well said.

There was an Afghanistani cartoon "Foren" minister named "Abdul Rahaman Pizwak". He used to make regular statements about dismemberment of Pakistan.


Oh BTW do note that for Afghanistanis like this cartoon Pizwak, Frontier province was to become a separate country and not a part of Afghanistan.

Why?

Tajiks in Afghanistan do not want even more Pashtuns in Afghanistan, so they don't want to merge with modern day KPK.

They just want dismemberment at the behest of their Hindu masters sitting in Dilli.


Yeap. Pizwak got all the directions from Dilli.

This turned out to be corrosive loose talk, and created a lot of bad blood in Pakistani establishment.

And like you said,

it was an epic failure for Afghanistan.

But some Uzbeks and leftie Afghanistanis do not learn from their history. They have been under one gora boot or another for the last 40 years, raped by them from every which way, and still don't want to learn.

peace

 

[DRaisinHerald]

You are successfully stamped as completely brainwashed and indoctrinated in the Zia Islamization project. 100/100. Chaap. Next.

Arain - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Lol Wikipedia?

And btw Zia-ul-Haq was actually my rishtidaar.

He is related to me from a distance.

Is that the right word?

Agree to disagree , my friend ! I do not really believe in delusional Ummah concept because there is overwhelming evidence otherwise ... The radicalization of Pakistan should never have happened !

Well, I'd take Allah's word over yours really

 

[FaujHistorian]

I dont know why you got upset when I just corrected Fauji when he said Afghans would later claim Dilli also. I have never met one afghan who has claimed Dilli. All they claim - rightly or wrongly is the territory till Indus.

Durand Line is a issue between Afg and Pak and you two as brothers should solve this issue peacefully.

India has no stake in this scenario and I merely corrected Fauji who thinks India also has a stake.

You my dear dear dear poster may not have "met" an Afghan,

But the basis on which Indians and Afghanistanis challenge our Western border is what?

Old maps and historical claims?

FYI! Just see one of the map posted here by an Afghanistani.

So if a poor and pathetic nill, zero, shunni, 'kuntree' under the gora boots like Afghanistan can dig out the old maps, who can stop others from digging out their own old maps?

Who?

by your principle, Biharis (the top member of BIMARU states) like Lallu Parsad can easily claim Afghanistan under Mouriya empire.


Off course we'll all have another laugh at the Lallu, but we know he doesn't mind.

Similarly the Lullu Parsads on our West are digging up old maps of their choice.

We should perhaps laugh at these Lullus as well. And if they insist, we should tell Indians and Afghanistanis that OK, we don't recognize the durand line as border, and from now on, we are setting up our border posts in Jalalabad. Let's see how Indians and their poodle Afghanistanis jump through the roof.


peace

 

[Secur]

So what is the present verdict? Will Afghanistan and Pakistan finally settle for a certain amount of give and take or that once NATO leaves Afghanistan, both would sort it out all old-school?

The present verdict is that Pakistan considers the dispute settled once and for all ... You cant just unilaterally back off from a boundary agreement at any given time ... So no give and take ... If the puppet Govt has some spine , then they are free to take it to UN and see if that helps them a tiny bit !

Well, I'd take Allah's word over yours really

In the context , It meant that no such thing exist at the moment ... Hope that clarifies !

 

[DRaisinHerald]

In the context , It meant that no such thing exist at the moment ... Hope that clarifies !

Well, I can understand where you're coming from. But this Ummah has existed in the past, and there's no reason there won't be one in the future...50, 100, 200, even 500 years from now. Just because we live at a particular point in history when it's mostly defunct doesn't mean it's, as a concept, a fail or 'delusions'

 

[Icewolf]

You my dear dear dear poster may not have "met" and Afghan,

But the basis on which Indians and Afghanistanis challenge our Western border is what?

Old maps and historical claims. Just see one of the map posted here by an Afghanistani.

So if a poor and pathetic nill, zero, shunni, 'kuntree' under the gora boots like Afghanistan can dig out the old maps, who can stop others from digging out their own old maps?

Who?

by your principle, Biharis (the top member of BIMARU states) like Lallu Parsad can easily claim Afghanistan under Mouriya empire.


Off course we'll all have another laugh at the Lallu, but we know he doesn't mind.

Similarly the Lullu Parsads on our West are digging up old maps of their choice.

We should perhaps laugh at these Lullus as well.


peace

Everyone will laugh at

Hahahha... It means Sikhs should claim whole of Afghanistan.. Hindus also whole of Afghanistan..

Very nice post you got there, sums the idiocity of Afghans very well