Time for India to Take Down Dawood Ibrahim

[Mav3rick]

1. The Abottabad raid, Raymond Davis affair and drone strikes show that US can do whatever they want with Pakistan. You guys are nothing more than a failed state.

2. Raymond Davis kills Pakistanis and you are trying hard to show that he had diplomatic immunity. Why was he arrested then? Diplomatic immunity means a person cannot be arrested. You Pakistanis are very funny people.

3. That doctor was the one who revealed the location of OBL to CIA, not ISI who was trying to protect Osama.

4. The US was at war with Al-qaeda. I am sorry if it hurts your sentiments but in war enemies are killed. If you feel so bad about the death of a monster like Osama Bin Laden then please write a letter to Barak Obama pouring out your grief. And how many pashtuns are given a fair trial by pakistanis in zarb-e-arb? Don't be a hypocrite.

5. Why should US produce the dead body in front of cameras? You sound more and more like an immature kid who just woke up to reality and find it different from your dream world. OBL was killed by USA, deal with it.

6. First decide whether drone strikes are good or bad for Pakistan. You seem pretty confused yourself.

7. A major part of Pakistani economy is made up of foreign aid. What industries do you have? Hardly anything at all.

8. It took India 14 days to defeat Pakistan in 1971 and capture 90,000 POW - a world record that stands till date. You cannot fight against TTP what will you fight against USA?

9. The fact that locals are fighting for TTP against Pakistan shows that there is no nationalism in your country. It will be a repeat of 1971 and this time the tribal provinces of Pakistan will break free and become independent.

10. It was nukes. See Pakistan is a beggar state with no present or future. Things are so bad in Pakistan that the Pakistani government is killing its own people in exchange for American dollars. I doubt if TTP actually exists or if it is a grand conspiracy by Pakistan to kill its own population for dollars. India is a rising economic power. India can easily destroy Pakistan but India will also suffer because of nukes. India has today reached the moon and Mars, it is an industrial powerhouse. Look at Pakistan, it is still riddled with poverty. India cannot risk growth to fight a failed state.

11. That's what I meant. Your own country is not united. People in FATA don't even consider themselves Pakistanis. You are nothing but a failed state.

12. Your Prime Minister gets "summoned" by the head of another state? You guys don't have even the most basic of self-respect. Waiters in a restaurant are summoned by the customers, not elected Prime Ministers. And keep dreaming that Pakistan won Kargil war. You Pakistanis are very funny.

13. That's a good joke mate. Pakistan does not depend on China for security, LOL! That's why the Chinese are building Gwadar port and supplying you with cheap arms at discount prices. Without US and China you Pakistanis are worth nothing.

Allies are between equals, not strong and weak. Russia is an ally of China. What can Pakistan offer China that they will risk fighting a nuclear war with USA for your behalf? Do you have oil, no. Do you have resources, no. Do you have anything that they can use, no. China has no shortage of allies. The US already has bases in Afghanistan, LOL!! And the US has a very strong presence in South Korea which is much closer to China than Pakistan.

For someone who claims that Pakistan is not dependent on China for security you are hoping a lot that China will protect you against USA

14. Yea, India posed no threat to Pakistan that's why your PM went crying to Washington. Oh I forgot, he was "summoned" there like a waiter waiting on a customer.

15. Yea, we can see in which condition Pakistan is alive today.

1. I will dispute the 'failed state' thing; but will agree with the conclusion that the US can do whatever they want with Pakistan, and will add, as long as the price is 'right'.

2. Funny, actually is how hard it is for you to understand despite my repeated attempts, honestly, I am smiling. US claimed RD had immunity, GoP disputed that and threw him in jail. However, had it ever been established that he actually enjoyed immunity then GoP would have had no other option but to release him, which did not happen as the US could not prove that RD enjoyed any diplomatic immunity. Also note, had this not become a media circus, RD would probably have been accepted as a diplomat with immunity from law in conformity with point 1 above.

3. How could the doctor reveal the location of OBL to CIA? Did the good doctor had access to DNA matching facilities at his remote clinic as well as DNA sample from OBL? What caused the CIA to monitor the house? Were details of the SIM, that eventually and allegedly led to OBL compound, belonging to OBLs rider were discovered by CIA on their own? Did ISI or MI or PakMil make any attempt to thwart the alleged US operation even when the US had boots on the ground? I mean these guys could have gotten there within 3-5 minutes, did they? So many bloody if's and buts and this and that, however the web was woven precisely to catch stupid prey, not that I am calling you stupid .

4. In war, enemy combatants are killed. However, the most wanted man on earth is NOT killed, he is tried as triumph of good over evil. He is sentenced and punished with execution as the triumph of right over wrong. Also note, for the love of God, that all these sentiments are purported and defended by the good US Government and they advocate them so vocally, and sometimes 'not' so vocally, that when they do something precisely opposite of this then one, with some common sense, begins to wonder why they had to do what they did. OBL was dead since 2002!

5. To put to silence all suspicions and doubts. That single act could have shot down all 'other' theories, I call them theories because apparently the word of the US Government is the 'entire truth' and nothing but the truth. OBL had actually died in a US attack, but in 2002. However, that would have meant an end to the lame excuse to wage war on Afghanistan and Iraq.

6. LOL. It is you who fails to understand repeatedly and I am confused? Let me give you some advice, excellent and free, get some one to 'explain' my earlier posts to you. It will probably save me a lot of time.

7. There is hardly any aid that makes up Pakistani economy. In any case, its effects are largely negligible.

8. Yet it took India almost 6 months, 35000 soldiers and 10 squadrons of IAF to fail at taking back all the peaks at Kargil? Oh wait, was it because half of Pakistan was not at war with the other half over thousand km's away on the other side of India??? India is a pathetic military country that is unable to retake its claimed Azad Kashmir from a country that is 7-8 times smaller in terms of population, size and even more so in terms of resources! In which would could India ever defeat a united Pakistan not at war with itself???

9. We have a handful of 'locals' with the support of many 'non-locals' who are supported by some major powers of the world and despite all odds, we have almost eliminated them. On the contrary, India could not handle a small portion of Jammu Kashmir despite posting a massive 700,000 strong military there for a decade or more and it was only for the goodwill of Musharraf and his ending of support to the Kashmiri freedom fighters that it all stopped. And today, India has more freedom/independence movements then any other country in the world, look it up.

10. With 70% of the population lacking basic health facilities, accommodation and access to clean water, with over half the population without access to toilets and proper food, you may consider yourself an industrial powerhouse but to the world, you are a TOILET without a FLUSH. And they would gladly keep you that way as long as you keep diverting funds away from the people, as long as you keep denying them basic amenities of life and as long as all the money that you have is diverted to foreign arms and good because the pathetic powerhouse is unable to produce anything worthwhile that is acceptable to its own military. The joke, is on you mate and it is a cruel one at that.

11. FATA is autonomous, go look that word up and then look at the settlement of the most powerful country of the world, the US.

12. Yes, that's how pathetic our democratic heads of state usually are. P.S. we are still holding on the one of the most strategic peaks at Kargil, I will let you find out which one .

13. India is procuring arms from Israel, France, Germany, US, Russia, Ukraine and many others while it begs for Chinese investment yet the same for Pakistan means that Pakistan is worth nothing. Ah well.....

14. Yes he was summoned, because you were unable to dislodge a few thousand fighters despite all your attempts and were turning into an international joke. Well, actually, you are a joke anyway because you could still not retake all posts and peaks despite all your military & diplomatic attempts!!

15. You should appreciate it too.

EDIT: PS: So when exactly are you guys taking down DI?

 

[Indian Patriot]

1. Thank you for the opinion, I will make amends immediately to ensure you are kept property satisfied at all times . F-35/Eurofighter etc, neither stands a chance against the Mig-21 Bison, right? I hope I am already making amends.

2. Well, I guess all actual combat records speak what I said .

3. Refer to point 1 of the post above, yours and not mine, and then perhaps you will also practice point 1 of this post of mine.

Anyway, you had asked about the strength of 4th Gen jets that PAF fields, that particular para was meant to answer that as the query about BVRs was already satisfied.

1. PAF so-called front line aircraft don't stand a chance against Mig-21 upgraded version. An airforce that cannot take out enemy drones and helicopters has no chance of taking out enemy fighters.

I had said the Su-30MKI is comparable to Eurofighter and I stand by it. I know as a Pakistani it hurts you to read the truth but the Su-30MKI is that good.

2. Combat records? Yea sure. I forgot in Pakistan they teach that they won every war with India. The PAF is so good that India lost 1971 war. It was because of Pakistani charity that Bangladesh became a separate country. Man you Pakistanis are so delusional it is crazy.

3. You said India should opt for Eurofighter. I replied India already has an aircraft Su-30MKI which is comparable to EF and the Indian Mig-21 upgraded version can take anything PAF can throw at them.

 

[Rana123]

I want to ask actually what is this man ?
is it really threat to INdia

 

[Indian Patriot]

1. I will dispute the 'failed state' thing; but will agree with the conclusion that the US can do whatever they want with Pakistan, and will add, as long as the price is 'right'.

2. Funny, actually is how hard it is for you to understand despite my repeated attempts, honestly, I am smiling. US claimed RD had immunity, GoP disputed that and threw him in jail. However, had it ever been established that he actually enjoyed immunity then GoP would have had no other option but to release him, which did not happen as the US could not prove that RD enjoyed any diplomatic immunity. Also note, had this not become a media circus, RD would probably have been accepted as a diplomat with immunity from law in conformity with point 1 above.

3. How could the doctor reveal the location of OBL to CIA? Did the good doctor had access to DNA matching facilities at his remote clinic as well as DNA sample from OBL? What caused the CIA to monitor the house? Were details of the SIM, that eventually and allegedly led to OBL compound, belonging to OBLs rider were discovered by CIA on their own? Did ISI or MI or PakMil make any attempt to thwart the alleged US operation even when the US had boots on the ground? I mean these guys could have gotten there within 3-5 minutes, did they? So many bloody if's and buts and this and that, however the web was woven precisely to catch stupid prey, not that I am calling you stupid .

4. In war, enemy combatants are killed. However, the most wanted man on earth is NOT killed, he is tried as triumph of good over evil. He is sentenced and punished with execution as the triumph of right over wrong. Also note, for the love of God, that all these sentiments are purported and defended by the good US Government and they advocate them so vocally, and sometimes 'not' so vocally, that when they do something precisely opposite of this then one, with some common sense, begins to wonder why they had to do what they did. OBL was dead since 2002!

5. To put to silence all suspicions and doubts. That single act could have shot down all 'other' theories, I call them theories because apparently the word of the US Government is the 'entire truth' and nothing but the truth. OBL had actually died in a US attack, but in 2002. However, that would have meant an end to the lame excuse to wage war on Afghanistan and Iraq.

6. LOL. It is you who fails to understand repeatedly and I am confused? Let me give you some advice, excellent and free, get some one to 'explain' my earlier posts to you. It will probably save me a lot of time.

7. There is hardly any aid that makes up Pakistani economy. In any case, its effects are largely negligible.

8. Yet it took India almost 6 months, 35000 soldiers and 10 squadrons of IAF to fail at taking back all the peaks at Kargil? Oh wait, was it because half of Pakistan was not at war with the other half over thousand km's away on the other side of India??? India is a pathetic military country that is unable to retake its claimed Azad Kashmir from a country that is 7-8 times smaller in terms of population, size and even more so in terms of resources! In which would could India ever defeat a united Pakistan not at war with itself???

9. We have a handful of 'locals' with the support of many 'non-locals' who are supported by some major powers of the world and despite all odds, we have almost eliminated them. On the contrary, India could not handle a small portion of Jammu Kashmir despite posting a massive 700,000 strong military there for a decade or more and it was only for the goodwill of Musharraf and his ending of support to the Kashmiri freedom fighters that it all stopped. And today, India has more freedom/independence movements then any other country in the world, look it up.

10. With 70% of the population lacking basic health facilities, accommodation and access to clean water, with over half the population without access to toilets and proper food, you may consider yourself an industrial powerhouse but to the world, you are a TOILET without a FLUSH. And they would gladly keep you that way as long as you keep diverting funds away from the people, as long as you keep denying them basic amenities of life and as long as all the money that you have is diverted to foreign arms and good because the pathetic powerhouse is unable to produce anything worthwhile that is acceptable to its own military. The joke, is on you mate and it is a cruel one at that.

11. FATA is autonomous, go look that word up and then look at the settlement of the most powerful country of the world, the US.

12. Yes, that's how pathetic our democratic heads of state usually are. P.S. we are still holding on the one of the most strategic peaks at Kargil, I will let you find out which one .

13. India is procuring arms from Israel, France, Germany, US, Russia, Ukraine and many others while it begs for Chinese investment yet the same for Pakistan means that Pakistan is worth nothing. Ah well.....

14. Yes he was summoned, because you were unable to dislodge a few thousand fighters despite all your attempts and were turning into an international joke. Well, actually, you are a joke anyway because you could still not retake all posts and peaks despite all your military & diplomatic attempts!!

15. You should appreciate it too.

EDIT: PS: So when exactly are you guys taking down DI?

1. I will dispute the 'failed state' thing; but will agree with the conclusion that the US can do whatever they want with Pakistan, and will add, as long as the price is 'right'.

2. Funny, actually is how hard it is for you to understand despite my repeated attempts, honestly, I am smiling. US claimed RD had immunity, GoP disputed that and threw him in jail. However, had it ever been established that he actually enjoyed immunity then GoP would have had no other option but to release him, which did not happen as the US could not prove that RD enjoyed any diplomatic immunity. Also note, had this not become a media circus, RD would probably have been accepted as a diplomat with immunity from law in conformity with point 1 above.

3. How could the doctor reveal the location of OBL to CIA? Did the good doctor had access to DNA matching facilities at his remote clinic as well as DNA sample from OBL? What caused the CIA to monitor the house? Were details of the SIM, that eventually and allegedly led to OBL compound, belonging to OBLs rider were discovered by CIA on their own? Did ISI or MI or PakMil make any attempt to thwart the alleged US operation even when the US had boots on the ground? I mean these guys could have gotten there within 3-5 minutes, did they? So many bloody if's and buts and this and that, however the web was woven precisely to catch stupid prey, not that I am calling you stupid .

4. In war, enemy combatants are killed. However, the most wanted man on earth is NOT killed, he is tried as triumph of good over evil. He is sentenced and punished with execution as the triumph of right over wrong. Also note, for the love of God, that all these sentiments are purported and defended by the good US Government and they advocate them so vocally, and sometimes 'not' so vocally, that when they do something precisely opposite of this then one, with some common sense, begins to wonder why they had to do what they did. OBL was dead since 2002!

5. To put to silence all suspicions and doubts. That single act could have shot down all 'other' theories, I call them theories because apparently the word of the US Government is the 'entire truth' and nothing but the truth. OBL had actually died in a US attack, but in 2002. However, that would have meant an end to the lame excuse to wage war on Afghanistan and Iraq.

6. LOL. It is you who fails to understand repeatedly and I am confused? Let me give you some advice, excellent and free, get some one to 'explain' my earlier posts to you. It will probably save me a lot of time.

7. There is hardly any aid that makes up Pakistani economy. In any case, its effects are largely negligible.

8. Yet it took India almost 6 months, 35000 soldiers and 10 squadrons of IAF to fail at taking back all the peaks at Kargil? Oh wait, was it because half of Pakistan was not at war with the other half over thousand km's away on the other side of India??? India is a pathetic military country that is unable to retake its claimed Azad Kashmir from a country that is 7-8 times smaller in terms of population, size and even more so in terms of resources! In which would could India ever defeat a united Pakistan not at war with itself???

9. We have a handful of 'locals' with the support of many 'non-locals' who are supported by some major powers of the world and despite all odds, we have almost eliminated them. On the contrary, India could not handle a small portion of Jammu Kashmir despite posting a massive 700,000 strong military there for a decade or more and it was only for the goodwill of Musharraf and his ending of support to the Kashmiri freedom fighters that it all stopped. And today, India has more freedom/independence movements then any other country in the world, look it up.

10. With 70% of the population lacking basic health facilities, accommodation and access to clean water, with over half the population without access to toilets and proper food, you may consider yourself an industrial powerhouse but to the world, you are a TOILET without a FLUSH. And they would gladly keep you that way as long as you keep diverting funds away from the people, as long as you keep denying them basic amenities of life and as long as all the money that you have is diverted to foreign arms and good because the pathetic powerhouse is unable to produce anything worthwhile that is acceptable to its own military. The joke, is on you mate and it is a cruel one at that.

11. FATA is autonomous, go look that word up and then look at the settlement of the most powerful country of the world, the US.

12. Yes, that's how pathetic our democratic heads of state usually are. P.S. we are still holding on the one of the most strategic peaks at Kargil, I will let you find out which one .

13. India is procuring arms from Israel, France, Germany, US, Russia, Ukraine and many others while it begs for Chinese investment yet the same for Pakistan means that Pakistan is worth nothing. Ah well.....

14. Yes he was summoned, because you were unable to dislodge a few thousand fighters despite all your attempts and were turning into an international joke. Well, actually, you are a joke anyway because you could still not retake all posts and peaks despite all your military & diplomatic attempts!!

15. You should appreciate it too.

EDIT: PS: So when exactly are you guys taking down DI?

1. As long as price is right? Are you serious??

Do you even realise what you are making your country sound like? In this entire world there is only one profession where a person is allowed to do anything he pleases as long as he pays the right price. I don't know if you are serious but you make your country sound very cheap and easy.

2. RD did not enjoy any immunity. US will claim that for obvious reasons and they arm-twisted Pakistan. Since Pakistan is willing to do anything as long as the "price is right", the USmust have paid some money and the Pakistanis were only too happy to forget the whole episode.

India is wrong in its approach to tackle Pakistan. Money not weapons should be the way to fight you guys.

3. The doctor was collecting DNA samples under the pretext of polio-immunisation vaccine. The CIA were after OBL for 6 years, it is only obvious that they will find some lead. And Pakistan due to its close proximity with terrorists is always an obvious suspect. The house itself stands out like a sore thumb. In a locality where all houses are small and humble that idiot OBL builds an enormous mansion with high walls and no telephone lines, the owners are never seen and no outsiders allowed inside the compound - reason enough to be suspicious.

You are under the assumption that Pakistan could have done anything to stop US Abottabad raid. Countries that allow other countries to bomb them as long as the "price is right" do not have any respect in the international community. Pakistan was caught with its pants down (no pun intended) when the US raid happened.

4. You Pakistanis have a funny perspective of things. Only Pakistanis know the truth that OBL was dead since 2002. In fact only Pakistanis know everything.

5. Yea, OBL died in 2002 and all Pakistanis came to know about the truth only after the Abottabad raid.

6. Yes you made it very clear. Drone strikes are very good as long as "the price is right". So how much does Pakistan charge?

7. Without aid your economy will crumble. You don't have a large service sector industry like India, you don't have a large manufacturing based industry like China, you don't have resources of value like the Arab states in the gulf. What do you have?

8. Operations in Kargil started from May and lasted till July. I don't know how they teach maths in Pakistan but there are not six months between May and July. A squadron has 18 aircraft, so you mean to say 180 aircraft took part in the conflict? LOL!! Thank God you mentioned 35,000 troops and not 350,000

9. Yes you have eliminated them that is why the Pakistani military is desperately conductiong operation after failed operation to kill the taliban. These taliban defeated the red army of Russia. Pakistan does not even stand a chance.

10. You sure talk big don't you?

Only a Pakistani will believe all the lies and propaganda spewed against India because of your inherent jealousy. 70% of population lacking food and basic facilities. HAHAHAHAHA!! Is that why India is the 2nd largest wheat producer in the world and the largest producer of dairy and dairy goods? AMUL produces 3 times more dairy products than entire Pakistan and AMUL is just one dairy company in India. Pakistan cannot even manufacture its own domestic 2-wheeler till date.

India is a toilet without a flush eh? Then what will you call Pakistan that is the only country in the world with polio and sells itself to foreign countries for the "right price". And you talking about a cruel joke? LOL!! There is a slang used to describe people who sell themselves for money. I will leave it to you to figure it out.

11. There is a difference between autonomous and lawless. US does not have TTP fighting US govt. FATA has TTP fighting your govt.

12. Why only strategic peaks of Kargil. You are holding on to entire Kashmir. Keep believing whatever lies make you sleep peacefully at night.

13. Begs for investment? So any country that makes a pitch for investment is called begging? Pakistani logic at its best again. So China is begging US to invest in China? LOL!! Then what is stopping you Pakistanis from begging China? China finds you so worthless that you are not even worth sparing sum charity? Surely begging as a profession holds more dignity than someone who sells themselves for money.

Do not compare Indian arms with Pakistan. India is self reliant in many of its projects. India has its own fighter, helicopter, tank, aircraft carrier and nuclear submarine. Things that Pakistan can only dream about.

14. So your country is something that sells itself for money and your PM is worth nothing who gets summoned everywhere like a waiter in a restaurant. Are you actually an Indian in disguise?

P.S. - Given the fact that DI has turned Karachi into hell it serves Indian interests to let Pakistan keep him.

 

[Indian Patriot]

I want to ask actually what is this man ?
is it really threat to INdia

He is a bigger threat to Pakistan now.

 

[A.Rafay]

Time for India to shut the fuk up about this guy. You won't get him. Period.

 

[JonAsad]

He is a bigger threat to Pakistan now.

how come?-

 

[Indian Patriot]

how come?-

The news about Karachi these days should be a good indicator. Dawood Ibrahim was not a saint in India, he was a criminal who trafficked drugs and built a crime empire. After India cracked down on his business he shifted base to Pakistan where he is supplying drugs and doing his extortion racket there.

 

[Indian Patriot]

Time for India to shut the fuk up about this guy. You won't get him. Period.

Keep him by all means. Pakistan is the only country in the world that houses, feeds and shelters the people who bring destruction to their country. Eg. OBL and Dawood.

 

[acid rain]

how come?-

He is a gangster and among his own people in Pakistan - the bhaiya mujahirs, the memons - tiger memon and his brothers are his henchmen, jamaatis support him. Drugs, extortion, prostitution, gun running, supari killing, terrorism, explosives, hawala etc are his business - now work out what karachi is famous for and why it is in the dumps?.

 

[Mav3rick]

1. PAF so-called front line aircraft don't stand a chance against Mig-21 upgraded version. An airforce that cannot take out enemy drones and helicopters has no chance of taking out enemy fighters.

I had said the Su-30MKI is comparable to Eurofighter and I stand by it. I know as a Pakistani it hurts you to read the truth but the Su-30MKI is that good.

2. Combat records? Yea sure. I forgot in Pakistan they teach that they won every war with India. The PAF is so good that India lost 1971 war. It was because of Pakistani charity that Bangladesh became a separate country. Man you Pakistanis are so delusional it is crazy.

3. You said India should opt for Eurofighter. I replied India already has an aircraft Su-30MKI which is comparable to EF and the Indian Mig-21 upgraded version can take anything PAF can throw at them.

1. Agreed, come roll over PAF anytime you guys want

2. .................

3. Right........what was the need for the MMRCA again??

 

[narcon]

Let's trade

Dawood for Modi

You could not trade in your own = Daughter of Pakistan viz; Aafia Siddiqi - Modi is way too much for you!
Rant on!
Dream on!

 

[Indian Patriot]

1. Agreed, come roll over PAF anytime you guys want

2. .................

3. Right........what was the need for the MMRCA again??

1. We did that in 1971 when war was officially declared. Not impressed by PAF.

2. I thought that would be the response from you.

3. You sure are a very intelligent man are you not? Name one air force in the world that has only one type of aircraft. USAF has F-15, F-16, F-22. Does it mean F-16 is a poor aircraft because the USAF invested in F-22?

Aircraft are selected on the mission roles. Some are for air superiority, some for ground attack, some for intercepting enemy aircraft etc.

 

[ApparentRaceTraitor]

You want to stop him? Strike at the source. No not where he is living, but at the source of his sustenance, drugs, bollywood, etc. How many actors or directors have or verifiably alleged links to this 'D-Company'? Boycott their movies. Impose harsher penalties for drug use on the user of hard drugs (cocaine, MDMA, meth, heroin) rather than the dealer such as community service in a neighborhood of hijras, or anything else that would shame them enough never to do it again. You take out the source from India, in the medium to long run he will attempt the same in Pakistan or Dubai. Eventually they will do the same. There is no better way to torture a man than to make him watch everything he has built up over the course of his life crumble bit by bit, no better way for him to lose his mind than to make him believe his perceived 'power' is gradually fading. After all it is 'power' and 'money' that give creatures like these a hard on.

 

[Black Widow]

Pakistani and Pakistan supported terrorists are hiding in hole...

Ajit has some plan for them.. wait for some time , you will hear some good news..