Time for India to Take Down Dawood Ibrahim

[Black Widow]

Let's trade

Dawood for Modi

Come take him..

 

[Arsalan]

1. Agreed, come roll over PAF anytime you guys want

2. .................

3. Right........what was the need for the MMRCA again??

You have been here long enough that replying to trolls like him does no one any good. Some people are here for one reason only and there is no point trying to prove or inform them about anything so do not waste your energies. Best just ignore him.

If there was one bit truth in his claims the regional map today would have been much different. It is good for India (also for Pakistan) that they do not hire such fan boys in key positions

 

[Indian Patriot]

You want to stop him? Strike at the source. No not where he is living, but at the source of his sustenance, drugs, bollywood, etc. How many actors or directors have or verifiably alleged links to this 'D-Company'? Boycott their movies. Impose harsher penalties for drug use on the user of hard drugs (cocaine, MDMA, meth, heroin) rather than the dealer such as community service in a neighborhood of hijras, or anything else that would shame them enough never to do it again. You take out the source from India, in the medium to long run he will attempt the same in Pakistan or Dubai. Eventually they will do the same. There is no better way to torture a man than to make him watch everything he has built up over the course of his life crumble bit by bit, no better way for him to lose his mind than to make him believe his perceived 'power' is gradually fading. After all it is 'power' and 'money' that give creatures like these a hard on.

You have a point. Bollywood especially is full of so-called stars who are hand in glove with D-company. One example being salman khan, sanjay dutt etc. dawood won't dare do such a thing in Dubai. Their laws are very strict. He will get his hands chopped off if he tries to take part in any illegal activities.

 

[Mav3rick]

1. As long as price is right? Are you serious??

Do you even realise what you are making your country sound like? In this entire world there is only one profession where a person is allowed to do anything he pleases as long as he pays the right price. I don't know if you are serious but you make your country sound very cheap and easy.

2. RD did not enjoy any immunity. US will claim that for obvious reasons and they arm-twisted Pakistan. Since Pakistan is willing to do anything as long as the "price is right", the USmust have paid some money and the Pakistanis were only too happy to forget the whole episode.

India is wrong in its approach to tackle Pakistan. Money not weapons should be the way to fight you guys.

3. The doctor was collecting DNA samples under the pretext of polio-immunisation vaccine. The CIA were after OBL for 6 years, it is only obvious that they will find some lead. And Pakistan due to its close proximity with terrorists is always an obvious suspect. The house itself stands out like a sore thumb. In a locality where all houses are small and humble that idiot OBL builds an enormous mansion with high walls and no telephone lines, the owners are never seen and no outsiders allowed inside the compound - reason enough to be suspicious.

You are under the assumption that Pakistan could have done anything to stop US Abottabad raid. Countries that allow other countries to bomb them as long as the "price is right" do not have any respect in the international community. Pakistan was caught with its pants down (no pun intended) when the US raid happened.

4. You Pakistanis have a funny perspective of things. Only Pakistanis know the truth that OBL was dead since 2002. In fact only Pakistanis know everything.

5. Yea, OBL died in 2002 and all Pakistanis came to know about the truth only after the Abottabad raid.

6. Yes you made it very clear. Drone strikes are very good as long as "the price is right". So how much does Pakistan charge?

7. Without aid your economy will crumble. You don't have a large service sector industry like India, you don't have a large manufacturing based industry like China, you don't have resources of value like the Arab states in the gulf. What do you have?

8. Operations in Kargil started from May and lasted till July. I don't know how they teach maths in Pakistan but there are not six months between May and July. A squadron has 18 aircraft, so you mean to say 180 aircraft took part in the conflict? LOL!! Thank God you mentioned 35,000 troops and not 350,000

9. Yes you have eliminated them that is why the Pakistani military is desperately conductiong operation after failed operation to kill the taliban. These taliban defeated the red army of Russia. Pakistan does not even stand a chance.

10. You sure talk big don't you?

Only a Pakistani will believe all the lies and propaganda spewed against India because of your inherent jealousy. 70% of population lacking food and basic facilities. HAHAHAHAHA!! Is that why India is the 2nd largest wheat producer in the world and the largest producer of dairy and dairy goods? AMUL produces 3 times more dairy products than entire Pakistan and AMUL is just one dairy company in India. Pakistan cannot even manufacture its own domestic 2-wheeler till date.

India is a toilet without a flush eh? Then what will you call Pakistan that is the only country in the world with polio and sells itself to foreign countries for the "right price". And you talking about a cruel joke? LOL!! There is a slang used to describe people who sell themselves for money. I will leave it to you to figure it out.

11. There is a difference between autonomous and lawless. US does not have TTP fighting US govt. FATA has TTP fighting your govt.

12. Why only strategic peaks of Kargil. You are holding on to entire Kashmir. Keep believing whatever lies make you sleep peacefully at night.

13. Begs for investment? So any country that makes a pitch for investment is called begging? Pakistani logic at its best again. So China is begging US to invest in China? LOL!! Then what is stopping you Pakistanis from begging China? China finds you so worthless that you are not even worth sparing sum charity? Surely begging as a profession holds more dignity than someone who sells themselves for money.

Do not compare Indian arms with Pakistan. India is self reliant in many of its projects. India has its own fighter, helicopter, tank, aircraft carrier and nuclear submarine. Things that Pakistan can only dream about.

14. So your country is something that sells itself for money and your PM is worth nothing who gets summoned everywhere like a waiter in a restaurant. Are you actually an Indian in disguise?

P.S. - Given the fact that DI has turned Karachi into hell it serves Indian interests to let Pakistan keep him.

1. Yes, I am serious. The country is in the hands of some ****** who will allow the US to go whatever it pleases, as long as the return is appropriate.

2. That's what I have been saying all along, RD was freed after he paid blood money. And yes, $$ is the best way to tackle Pakistan. Unfortunately, you cannot afford any of the luxuries.

3. Blah Blah Blah and more Blah yet again. For the past 3 posts it has been just that from your side. You want to argue, come back with something that is worth responding to and something to which I have not already posted a detailed response earlier.

4. Correct.

5. We knew it, the US Government knew it, only the ******** of the world, like Indians, did not know and precisely the reason for the web of deceit because it is so easy to **** Indians as long as the equipment (or words in this case) are western!

6. As I said before, it is a package deal. And it is confidential.

7. First, provide basic amenities like toilets to your citizens and then talk about India......talking about China along with India is an insult to China.

8. Kargil conflict lasted over 6 months, even after that, operations were never officially declared achieved as many later attempts to retake points still held by Pakistan proved futile. And a squadron consists of anywhere b/w 12 to 24 aircraft (how much schooling I will have to provide you is just about anybody's guess). I said 35000 because I was speaking on facts.

9. We are searching for remnants, later entries, new recruits, sympathisers, foreign elements etc., this will continue till the time when all of the terrorists are defeated. Don't worry, you will know when it is done and you will feel it too.

10. Not big, just factual. You are a mere Toilet without a Flush, FACT!

11. US has autonomous states same as FATA. FATA is autonomous, not lawless, they have their own laws.

12. Not yet, but will do so eventually.

13. Yes, armaments that Indian Military is forced to purchase and are too ashamed to own!! Must make you really proud, that hollow pride is what the world makes fun of.

14. Most democratic PMs, yes. The country, NO.

P.S. So I hope there will be no more such threads and day dreams about DI then???

 

[Indian Patriot]

You have been here long enough that replying to trolls like him does no one any good. Some people are here for one reason only and there is no point trying to prove or inform them about anything so do not waste your energies. Best just ignore him.

If there was one bit truth in his claims the regional map today would have been much different. It is good for India (also for Pakistan) that they do not hire such fan boys in key positions

So any statement that proves Pakistan's duplicity or puts Pakistanis in an uncomfortable position is called trolling?

The regional map is MUCH different in case you have not noticed. Till 1970 bangladesh was east pakistan, now look at the regional map will you? Keep selling your country to USA and China for the right price while we Indians sit back and laugh at your illusions of grandeur.

 

[Bang Galore]

India, US step up cooperation to track Dawood
NEW DELHI, Nov 13, 2014, DHNS

India and the United States (US) stepped up cooperation to track Dawood Ibrahim, as the fugitive underworld don, who generally lived at Karachi in Pakistan till recently, of late started shifting his base frequently and purportedly moved to different locations within and outside the neighbouring country.
The officials of India and US may discuss the issue of bringing the elusive D-company chief to justice during the third round of bilateral Homeland Security Dialogue, which is likely to take place in New Delhi later this month or early next month.

The dialogue will be co-chaired by Home Minister Rajnath Singh and US Secretary for Homeland Security Jeh Johnson.

Sources said that Indian and American agencies had of late stepped up sharing of intelligence on terrorist and criminal networks based in Pakistan, including the D-company, which had come under renewed focus after Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s meeting with US President Barack Obama in Washington on September 30. The joint statement issued after Modi-Obama meeting stressed on the need for stepping up cooperation to combat organisations like al-Qaeda, Lashkar-e-Toiba, Jaish-e-Mohammad, D-Company and Haqqani Network, including dismantling their safe havens.




Sources in New Delhi said that Indian and American agencies over the past few weeks renewed bilateral cooperation, focusing particularly on “disrupting financial and tactical support” that the D-company enjoyed within and outside Pakistan.

Dawood is wanted in India for his role in the 1993 Mumbai serial blasts that killed about 300 people.

Despite being on the Most Wanted List of the Interpol since long, he remained elusive, although New Delhi has been regularly receiving inputs about his being in Karachi under protection of the Inter Services Intelligence – the spy agency of Pakistan. He has also been running his network of extortion within and outside India.

Indian intelligence agencies are understood to have shared with their counterparts in US that the ISI had shifted Dawood from Karachi to North Waziristan near Afghanistan-Pakistan border sometime in the second week of October, ostensibly in anticipation of heightened cooperation between New Delhi and Washington to track him down in the wake of Modi-Obama meet.

The US agencies later shared with their counterparts in India intelligence inputs suggesting that he had been subsequently moved to Thailand, but had been brought back to Pakistan.

The US Treasury Department in 2003 put Dawood in the list of “Specially Designated Global Terrorists”, thus seeking to freeze any assets belonging to him in America and prohibiting his or his associates’ transactions with Americans.

The United Nations in 2007 added him to the list of individuals belonging to or associated with al-Qaeda.

India, US step up cooperation to track Dawood

 

[Indian Patriot]

1. Yes, I am serious. The country is in the hands of some ****** who will allow the US to go whatever it pleases, as long as the return is appropriate.

2. That's what I have been saying all along, RD was freed after he paid blood money. And yes, $$ is the best way to tackle Pakistan. Unfortunately, you cannot afford any of the luxuries.

3. Blah Blah Blah and more Blah yet again. For the past 3 posts it has been just that from your side. You want to argue, come back with something that is worth responding to and something to which I have not already posted a detailed response earlier.

4. Correct.

5. We knew it, the US Government knew it, only the ******** of the world, like Indians, did not know and precisely the reason for the web of deceit because it is so easy to **** Indians as long as the equipment (or words in this case) are western!

6. As I said before, it is a package deal. And it is confidential.

7. First, provide basic amenities like toilets to your citizens and then talk about India......talking about China along with India is an insult to China.

8. Kargil conflict lasted over 6 months, even after that, operations were never officially declared achieved as many later attempts to retake points still held by Pakistan proved futile. And a squadron consists of anywhere b/w 12 to 24 aircraft (how much schooling I will have to provide you is just about anybody's guess). I said 35000 because I was speaking on facts.

9. We are searching for remnants, later entries, new recruits, sympathisers, foreign elements etc., this will continue till the time when all of the terrorists are defeated. Don't worry, you will know when it is done and you will feel it too.

10. Not big, just factual. You are a mere Toilet without a Flush, FACT!

11. US has autonomous states same as FATA. FATA is autonomous, not lawless, they have their own laws.

12. Not yet, but will do so eventually.

13. Yes, armaments that Indian Military is forced to purchase and are too ashamed to own!! Must make you really proud, that hollow pride is what the world makes fun of.

14. Most democratic PMs, yes. The country, NO.

P.S. So I hope there will be no more such threads and day dreams about DI then???

1. So ask your fellow Pakistanis to vote wisely. However that won't do much because it is an open secret that in Pakistan the army holds real power over everything.

2. Money is money. If Pakistan has the habit of taking money from US then it will take money from anybody. I don't know if you guys understand how pathetic your country has turned up.

3. LOL! I am not a secret agent to post my own facts. Whatever I have said is taken from public domain. But of course for Pakistanis like you whatever USA says is all lies and conspiracy.

4. Yes dude. In your dreams you are superpower and Pakistani drones bomb USA.

5. If everyone knew it then why did no media ever publish a report? Why did media link Abottabad raid with death of OBL. Why was Pakistani media in hiding when the raid took place instead of speaking the so-called truth? I don't know which is more tragic, the lies that you Pakistanis speak or the possibility that you believe your lies.

6. "Package Deal", LOL!! Do you offer any discounts as well? You Pakistanis have turned the sport of killing your fellow countrymen into a lucrative business.

7. First get rid of polio in Pakistan, then start defending China. You are not even in the same league as us. Every country has poverty and homeless people including USA. And do I need to remind the state of poverty, power cuts, unemployment in Pakistan?

8. Again the pack of lies. The whole world was against Pakistan, that is why your PM had to rush to Washington to beg for American support but even there he was rebuked. Six months of Kargil war, LOL!! India took Siachen from Pakistan in case you forgot. Defeating your army is second nature for India.

9. Your real enemy is your religious bigotry and the cult of hate you tried to use as a weapon against India. You signed your own death warrant when you agreed to use Pakistani territory to create mujahideen. You think the end of TTP will solve all problems? Think again. Today it is TTP and tommorow it will be someone else. And this war is far from being over, it has only just begun. Once USA leaves Afghanistan the TTP will have a safe base out of reach of Pakistan army and then your real troubles begin.

10. Then what does that make Paksitan, a country that sells itself for dollars to foreign country. The world's heera mandi?

11. US is not in an act of civil war with its autonomous states, if they have autonomous states. Paksitan on the other hand is sending troops, tanks, aircraft all over their miserable country.

12. In your dreams you are the one giving charity and donations to China.

13. It was INSAS rifles that killed your soldiers in Kargil. India is not only inducting hundreds of Dhruv light tactical helicopters but already EXPORTED them to south American countries, the light combat helicopter and light combat aircraft are at the prototype stage, the nuclear submarine is undergoing sea trials and will be ready by 2020. You Pakistanis first build a proper 2-wheeler then come and talk.

14. You are neither a democracy nor a country with any self-respect.


India never issued any threats to Pakistan. India demanded the handover of dawood but seeing how he has turned karachi into hell RAW might be tempted to recruit dawood instead.

 

[Mav3rick]

1. We did that in 1971 when war was officially declared. Not impressed by PAF.

2. I thought that would be the response from you.

3. You sure are a very intelligent man are you not? Name one air force in the world that has only one type of aircraft. USAF has F-15, F-16, F-22. Does it mean F-16 is a poor aircraft because the USAF invested in F-22?

Aircraft are selected on the mission roles. Some are for air superiority, some for ground attack, some for intercepting enemy aircraft etc.

1. Good thing you did not choose a time when Pakistan wasn't at war with Pakistan itself and when a good 3rd of the Air Force wasn't grounded as in 1965 when we **** ***** you every which way. However it is surprising to see that your side chooses 1971 as a morale booster where all you did was play a second fiddle to the MB.

2. As was deserving of your point.

3. No I am not, happy?

So again, What was the reason for choosing a Jet when SU-30MKI was sufficient for all the roles?

P.S. The US intends to field only the F-22 and the F-35 in the future, obviously once F-35 replaces all F-15's, F-16's & F-18's.

P.S. 2. What role can the MKI not fit in, is it the air superiority, the ground attack or interception/CAP missions??

 

[Pakistan First]

You could not trade in your own = Daughter of Pakistan viz; Aafia Siddiqi - Modi is way too much for you!
Rant on!
Dream on!

My illegitimate child, Aafia and Modi are two entirely different stories, as is US and BhaRAT.
3 inch ki phonoo kay saath 10 inch lambay khuaab na dekha karo.
Try dealing with your aids epidemics, extreme poverty, illiteracy, religious fanaticism and massive rural suicides before you create a rat infestation on a PAKISTANI defence forum, where you are nothing more than an immigrant. Imagine a Mexican immigrant trying to lecture an American, on immigrant problem in US for US citizens, and that too while in NYC.

 

[narcon]

My illegitimate child, Aafia and Modi are two entirely different stories, as is US and BhaRAT.
3 inch ki phonoo kay saath 10 inch lambay khuaab na dekha karo.
Try dealing with your aids epidemics, extreme poverty, illiteracy, religious fanaticism and massive rural suicides before you create a rat infestation on a PAKISTANI defence forum, where you are nothing more than an immigrant. Imagine a Mexican immigrant trying to lecture an American, on immigrant problem in US for US citizens, and that too while in NYC.

Welcome to my Ignore treasure and be my precious little gem from Pakistan.

 

[Pakistan First]

Welcome to my Ignore treasure and be my precious little gem from Pakistan.

Is that the best you had? Lolz! Pitiful.

 

[acid rain]

My illegitimate child, Aafia and Modi are two entirely different stories, as is US and BhaRAT.
3 inch ki phonoo kay saath 10 inch lambay khuaab na dekha karo.
Try dealing with your aids epidemics, extreme poverty, illiteracy, religious fanaticism and massive rural suicides before you create a rat infestation on a PAKISTANI defence forum, where you are nothing more than an immigrant. Imagine a Mexican immigrant trying to lecture an American, on immigrant problem in US for US citizens, and that too while in NYC.

You seem to have a misplaced superiority complex - misplaced bcoz you seem to imagine a third world dump which everyone has written off as a failed entity riddled with jihadis and the center of terrorism as some supa dupa country. China throws some investments at it just to keep India in check, Saudi throw some dollars for the sake of the wahabi experiment that they run in it.

BTW, the forum is on a US server.

 

[asad71]

Dawood Ibrahim is perhaps the most notorious “underworld don” in South Asia, involved in everything from supporting terrorist organizations like Lashkar-e-Taiba and now Boko Haram to organized crime and even fixing cricket matches. Dawood’s connection to al-Qaeda, allowing the use of his smuggling routes out of Afghanistan into Pakistan, made him a U.S. Treasury Department’s Specially Designated Terrorist in 2003. He is also wanted by INTERPOL. Most recent reporting has Dawood and his criminal syndicate D-Company headquartered in Pakistan under the protection of the Pakistani ISI.

The U.S. has not involved itself in any military action to take down Dawood or D-Company, but has restricted itself to placing Dawood and his leadership on Treasury Department sanctions lists. The threat D-Company poses to U.S. national security is not often discussed domestically; rather, the focus is on the terrorist groups financed by D-Company. But with the recent announcement by al-Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri that the terrorist outfit is creating an India branch, and with the proliferation of jihad throughout South Asia, will the U.S. now finally act to take down Dawood Ibrahim?

Unlikely. U.S. President Barack Obama has had no problem sending in special operations forces or conducting UAV strikes to take out major terrorist leadership, especially in a country like Pakistan that hosts more terrorists than any other country in the world. The list of figures killed in U.S. strikes includes Osama bin Laden, Abu Yahya al-Libi, Anwar al-Awlaki, and Hakimullah Mehsud, the former leader of the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan. Even though Dawood Ibrahim in on a par with these figures in terms of lethality and influence, his support of terrorism has not directly reached the U.S. homeland. It will not be until there is a major attack in India with direct evidence of Dawood’s involvement that the U.S. will become more involved.

The U.S. economic and security relationship with India is of increasing importance, as evidenced during Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s recent visit to the U.S. The joint U.S.-India statement mentioned the goal of, “dismantling of safe havens for terrorist and criminal networks, to disrupt all financial and tactical support for networks” for groups like Lashkar-e-Taiba and D-Company. It was also reported that the FBI and India’s Intelligence Bureau will begin swapping intelligence on asset sharing by D-Company in the hope of dismantling the organization. Still, it is unlikely that the U.S. action will go beyond this cooperation, at least for the time being.

An Indian official reported that India plans to seek U.S. assistance in extraditing Dawood from Pakistan. Similar statements have been made in previous years, without U.S. response. In fact, it seems unlikely that Washington would push Pakistan on Dawood’s extradition, for fear of inflaming already tense relations with Islamabad and the U.S. desire to continue counterterrorism operations after it exits Afghanistan.

Clearly, India will need to continue to build and grow its own apparatus if it is to take down D-Company. Over the past 20 years, Dawood has wreaked havoc in India, through direct support for proxy militant groups that have killed hundreds of people and cost the state millions of dollars. And now with intelligence reports of an imminent attack on India’s airports and the potential for a combined AQIS-SIMI attack during the holiday season, it is time for India to consider action against D-Company. Pakistan, which still denies that the underworld leader is operating within its borders, will not provide India with any intelligence or assistance and the U.S. will continue to act in a limited secondary support role. Still, however difficult it may be to take down Dawood Ibrahim, it has never been more in the interests of India’s national security to do so.

Elizabeth Bennett is a graduate student at New York University studying international relations/security with a focus on U.S.-South Asia affairs.

Time for India to Take Down Dawood Ibrahim | The Diplomat

USA had also placed Butcher Modi on the so called sanctions list.

 

[Cheetah786]

author: Elizabeth Bennett

Elizabeth Bennett is a graduate student at New York University studying international relations/security with a focus on U.S.-South Asia affairs.

Time for India to Take Down Dawood Ibrahim | The Diplomat

 

[Kaniska]

ab to hum khud kisi din usko maar daleen gay sala na marta hai na jaan chorta hai

And you know the funny thing, if ever Dawood Ibrahim is caught and arrested live, then biggest headache is not for Pakistan rather than the corrupt Indian minister and politician itself...Dawood inpspite of being outside, he is able to conduct all of his bussiness as usual in India...It is not possible without active help of Indian establishment and corrupt politician....