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Time for a quiet revolution in Bangladesh-Israeli relations

So nice of you sir. Will you be nice enough to return their land that was taken illegally by force from the people who saved you from the wrath of Romans. :azn:

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This map is false. Here the real one:

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Israel grants citizenship to every Jew on the planet. It denies non-Jewish Palestinians the right of return precisely because it would destroy the 'Jewish nature' of Israel.
Arab aggression against Israel created 850 thousands Jewish refugees and 700 thousands Arab refugees. Tiny Israel absorbed those Jewish refugees, 22 huge Arab countries refused to absorb their refugees. Thats not our problem.

That is not a real democracy if you carefully tailor your population based on religious discrimination.
All religions have same exactly rights in Israel. Israel does not arrest its citizens for insulting Jewishness.

Pakistan does not automatically grant or deny citizenship based on religion. Israel does.
About 20% of Israeli citizens are Muslims and they keep growing, no one denies their citizenship.
 
I'm sorry but I can't agree with you.
Firstly you are saying that the palestinian refugees is not your problem. Does it not occur to you that the families of these have lived in the region of palestine for hundreds of years. Why should they live in any other place. Are you saying that the palestinians should live in egypt and jordan because "it's the same"?? Secondly your picture of palestinian land from years 1946-2000 does not make sense in practice. Are you saying that a bunch of englishmen inhabited the region before the creation of israel?

Wether you like it or not, the majority who lived there have been arabs, since the crusades hundreds of years ago.

Also, saying that all religions have the same rights in israel is only true on paper. Sure you can vote and live "freely" if your one of the "chosen" arabs living in israel. The other ones living in refugee camps in other countries has no right at all to return and live where their ancestors lived, they ARE denied citizenship as if they do not exist and is someone else's problem. In israel's constitution everyone have equal rights, too bad the country is in permanent state of emergency were the country can ignore laws and pretty much do as they want (a lot of arab homes in Jerusalem are raised every year because they are considered illegal, many are built before the state of israel's creation).

Every country has their fair share of problems, but israel's cant be ignored. Millions of palestinians has have their family property confiscated and having been forced to flee to other parts of the country or abroad. Even today the confiscation of land continues in the west bank, with the army taking land from farmers saying it will be a "military buffer zone", which will then eventually turn into a settlement for jews. I dont think that the life of an average palestinian is much better if any than of a bangladeshi or an indian, even with their many many problems. Atleast they are not occupied by a foreign military power. It's shamefull for india in my opinion, a country colonized for hundreds of years, to support the state of Israel the only modern and so called "democratic" colonizing state focused on taking land from another people.
 
I'm sorry but I can't agree with you.
Firstly you are saying that the palestinian refugees is not your problem. Does it not occur to you that the families of these have lived in the region of palestine for hundreds of years. Why should they live in any other place. Are you saying that the palestinians should live in egypt and jordan because "it's the same"??
Jews lived in Iraq, Syria, Morocco... long before the Arabs came there, and they were expelled. Some 100 million people became refugees in 20th century. Why everyone talks about 700 thousand Palestinians? How they are better than other tens of millions?

Secondly your picture of palestinian land from years 1946-2000 does not make sense in practice. Are you saying that a bunch of englishmen inhabited the region before the creation of israel?
I am talking about rule. If you talk about inhabitans, then today in Israel live much more Arabs than ever before.

Also, saying that all religions have the same rights in israel is only true on paper. Sure you can vote and live "freely" if your one of the "chosen" arabs living in israel.
All 1.5 million Arab citizens of Israel can vote.

The other ones living in refugee camps in other countries has no right at all to return and live where their ancestors lived, they ARE denied citizenship as if they do not exist and is someone else's problem.
Jews that were expelled from Arab countries or Spain also can vote in these countries. And Germans that lived in Poland, Kenigsberg and Sudetes can vote there either.

In israel's constitution everyone have equal rights, too bad the country is in permanent state of emergency were the country can ignore laws and pretty much do as they want (a lot of arab homes in Jerusalem are raised every year because they are considered illegal, many are built before the state of israel's creation).
There is no any emergency. Every country has building regulations. If I build a balcony without permision it will be destroyed next day. Arabs build tens of thousands of homes without any permision, only fraction is destroyed.

Even today the confiscation of land continues in the west bank, with the army taking land from farmers saying it will be a "military buffer zone", which will then eventually turn into a settlement for jews.
Thats your hallucinations.

I dont think that the life of an average palestinian is much better if any than of a bangladeshi or an indian, even with their many many problems.
You are free to think whatever you wish but facts say otherwise.

Atleast they are not occupied by a foreign military power.
Lets check the facts:

1.5 million Arabs in Israel are not occupied. They are full right citizens of Israel.
1.5 million Arabs in Gaza are not occupied. They live under full Hamas control.
2.4 million Arabs in West Bank live under very wide authonomy, with their own government, parliament and armed forces. Israel is only state that granted to Palestinians such independence. They could get a fully independent state too but they refused all offers.

It's shamefull for india in my opinion, a country colonized for hundreds of years, to support the state of Israel the only modern and so called "democratic" colonizing state focused on taking land from another people.
India does not support Israel. In fact they vote most of time against Israel in UN. They just maintain economical and diplomatic relationships, same like your country has economical and diplomatic relationships with many brutal dictatorships like Syria, Sudan, Iran etc...
 
This map is false. Here the real one:

palestinianlossoflandco.jpg

Who told you that was british land??? British colonized that land illegally based on lie, treachery... killing innocent people.... through a treacherous treaty named "Skype Picot agreement"... If you are not aware of it.. go and search it and read it... At 1st british and french came here saying if the arab side against ottoman turk...they will help them to create an independent united arab states... and shows greed of power to "Sharif Hossain" for that... but later colonized the land by dividing it into zone a and zone b... n so here British Mandate has no legal validity ... so of the creation of Israel... where 55% of the land was given to only 7% of the people who was settled in 3% of the land only due to the courtesy of the muslim people who let european jews to rattle there from 1850 to escape anti semitism... but later zionist jews back stabbed the muslims and arabs...

For your history lesson...

The Fall of the Ottoman Empire 1

YouTube - The Fall of the Ottoman Empire 1

The Fall of the Ottoman Empire 1

YouTube - The Fall of the Ottoman Empire II

N lastly even if that land was under egypt and jordan control.... who gave Israel right to build illegal settlement over there... by stealing other peoples land and destroying their home???
 
I don't understand when you make claim that your place were not handed over by the british?
British just left. Next day we were attacked by Arab countries.

It is a fact that you are ILLEGALLY taking over the land, which isn't yours to begin with.
This land was ours thousands years before the Arabs.

You have demolished thousands of Palestenians homes, while they haven't even touched yours.
Are you sure?


Jewish families waiting outside their homes to be evacuated by Arab troops. Jerusalem, Israel. June 1948. John Phillips


Rubble lying in the streets after Arab looting of Jewish homes. Jerusalem. June 1948. John Phillips


Jewish girl, Rachel Levy, 7, fleeing from street w. burning bldgs. as the Arabs sack Jerusalem after its surrender. May 28, 1948. John Phillips
 
Arab aggression against Israel created 850 thousands Jewish refugees and 700 thousands Arab refugees. Tiny Israel absorbed those Jewish refugees, 22 huge Arab countries refused to absorb their refugees. Thats not our problem.

If dog bites you.. do you also needs to bites dog.. I personally think it was wrong to remove the jews from middle east arab country after 1948 war as they had no fault...as even after horrific event like crusade muslim let christian people live in middle east.... But this is not true for majority of the north african jews.... and many of the Iraqi jews... Iraqi jews fled Iraq mainly after british colonialism of Iraq due to increased violence... n north african jews were expelled due to "Levon Affair"... I think I do not need to remind you for this... where jews using arab dresses attacked USA and british installments... to lay the responsibility on egypt...

But what if arab countries now agreed to accept the jews with compensation... will Israel accept the refugees...??? Technically palestanian of gaza can also claim Israeli citizenship as they fled israel after creation of Israel...


All religions have same exactly rights in Israel. Israel does not arrest its citizens for insulting Jewishness.


About 20% of Israeli citizens are Muslims and they keep growing, no one denies their citizenship.

Do not talk all these crap... Non jews specially mumlims has a very little right in Israel and in many cases they are treated as second graded citizen... You people are bringing more radical jews to jerusalem and destroying more palestanian houses to build illegal settlement but does Israeli arabs has the right to buy land and property in jerusalem or west jerusalem??? Answer is virtually no... n to strip off the citizenship your liberman has brought the loyalty oath bill... just to make sure zionist can discriminate against them unconditionally.... n let alone racism... which arab israelis has to face on a regular basis in each and every places... n even arab israelis are not allowed to marry any one out side israel.... if they do they are not allowed to bring their partner... where as Israel is busy all the time to bring non semitic or khazar jews or heredim to Israel... and occupying more palestanian land.. to build illegal settlement...
 
Who told you that was british land??? British colonized that land illegally based on lie, treachery...
British colonized this land just like everyone before them: Romans, Arabs, Fatimides, Seljuks, Crusiders, Ayubides, Mamluks, Ottomans etc..

so of the creation of Israel... where 55% of the land was given to only 7% of the people who was settled
British Mandate on Palestine included todays Jordan. Total polulation was about 2.2 million including 600 thousand Jews. Thats over 27%. According to partition plan Jews got some 13% of Palestine mandate.

in 3% of the land only due to the courtesy of the muslim people who let european jews to rattle there from 1850 to escape anti semitism... but later zionist jews back stabbed the muslims and arabs...
No one settled there for free. They bayed good money for worseless lands. Jews were third class citizens in Arab countries. Arabs in Israel live even better than in their countries.

whose the girl 500??

very cute
Dont know myself. Just liked.
 
So I take it that you think jewish settlements in the westbank built on land illegally confiscated from palestinians does not exists, and is something people are hallucinating daily. Look i'm not saying that Israel is the worst thing in human history, though you can't deny the economic siege in gaza wich cripples their economies and even limits such things as aid, building materials. Also did you know that the majority of gazans, 70% are actually from other places, now taken by the state of israel.

Today the entire world is condemning israel for building homes made just for israelis on land annexed from the palestinians, and still they are going on. It is such a shame that alot of countries are dealing with rogue states today wether on economic or political level. There are a lot of governments that are oppressing another people (or their own), such as china, north korea among many others. That does not justify the acts of israel, this thread is about bangladesh/israeli relations, and i think there are many reasons such as does mentioned in this post for bangladesh to avoid any relations.

Also by India supporting israel i meant in arms purchases. It would be like my country buying missiles from iran.
 
British just left. Next day we were attacked by Arab countries.

They did not attacked but tried to get their land back which was occupied illegally and later was in process to give some people who had no relation with that land...


This land was ours thousands years before the Arabs.

It is always a false perception... Even if we follow bible/torah we can see Prophet Abraham came from Ur which is present day northern Iraq ... so Abraham is also a arab... so you just can not say you people lived there ling before Arabs... n always there were local people n majority of them converted to Islam and most of the jews also converted initially to christianity then to Islam...and some directly to Islam...But do not forget this is the muslim which let jews people live in jerusalem and present day palestine/israel... up to 637 before muslim conquest of Jerusalem jews were banned from it...even during the time of crusade... this is the muslim who opened the gate of jerusalem for the jews .. let the exiled jews from spain/potugal let live in their land ... otherwise they would be by force converted to Christianity...

N it is a reality that majority of the eastern european or russian jews are khazar jews... from kingdom of khazaria with red and blond hair and skin.. with blue eyes... so hardly you can say all this people has any connection with Israel... judaism is a religion not a race...



Are you sure?


Jewish families waiting outside their homes to be evacuated by Arab troops. Jerusalem, Israel. June 1948. John Phillips


Rubble lying in the streets after Arab looting of Jewish homes. Jerusalem. June 1948. John Phillips


Jewish girl, Rachel Levy, 7, fleeing from street w. burning bldgs. as the Arabs sack Jerusalem after its surrender. May 28, 1948. John Phillips

Are you not aware of the terrorism of the irgun, hagana and other terrorist jews organization.... and how they blew up king david hotel.. and massacred many palestanian villages???
 
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This picture doesn't make me optimistic about a Palestinian state. Israel settler policies is dissolving away Palestinian land and this is either implicit tolerated and sometimes even supported in an under-table manner.

The Arab world needs to get its s hit together if it wants any chance of stopping this.
 
If dog bites you.. do you also needs to bites dog.. I personally think it was wrong to remove the jews from middle east arab country after 1948 war as they had no fault...as even after horrific event like crusade muslim let christian people live in middle east.... But this is not true for majority of the north african jews.... and many of the Iraqi jews... Iraqi jews fled Iraq mainly after british colonialism of Iraq due to increased violence... n north african jews were expelled due to "Levon Affair"... I think I do not need to remind you for this... where jews using arab dresses attacked USA and british installments... to lay the responsibility on egypt...

But what if arab countries now agreed to accept the jews with compensation... will Israel accept the refugees...??? Technically palestanian of gaza can also claim Israeli citizenship as they fled israel after creation of Israel...
Diffeernce is that no Jews remained in Arab countries today, while in Israel today live 2 times more Arabs than in 1948.

Do not talk all these crap... Non jews specially mumlims has a very little right in Israel and in many cases they are treated as second graded citizen... You people are bringing more radical jews to jerusalem and destroying more palestanian houses to build illegal settlement but does Israeli arabs has the right to buy land and property in jerusalem or west jerusalem??? Answer is virtually no...
Muslim population of Jerusalem:

1553 - 11,750
1844 - 5,000
1880 - 8,000 (when Zionism started)
1922 - 13,500
1931 - 20,000
1948 - 40,000
1967 - 54,000 (when Israel liberates East Jerusalem)
2007 - 240,000

Terrible ethnic cleansing :fie:

n to strip off the citizenship your liberman has brought the loyalty oath bill...
Oath bill if only for foreigners who want to get citizenship, thats practised in almsot every country. No one strips citizenships from Arabs in Israel.

just to make sure zionist can discriminate against them unconditionally.... n let alone racism... which arab israelis has to face on a regular basis in each and every places...
Like you know what u are talking.

n even arab israelis are not allowed to marry any one out side israel.... if they do they are not allowed to bring their partner... where as Israel is busy all the time to bring non semitic or khazar jews or heredim to Israel... and occupying more palestanian land.. to build illegal settlement...
I know two Arabs one married a Russian girl and another Brasilian.
 

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