Time for a quiet revolution in Bangladesh-Israeli relations

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

LOL.


There were no Arab countries. It was Ottoman Empire. Brits conquered its lands, and gave 99.9% to Arabs, including all resources. So Arabs now complain why they gave us only 99.9%? We want 100%.

Yes true as an united arab countries was supposed to be created... problem not only creation israel... still UK kept on occupying many part of the middle east... even long after creation of Israel... present day oman, yemen, kuwait which was part of iraq... qatar, UAE... bharain which was part of persia or iran...suez canal, sudan and by france algeria and many part of northern africa... they did not get out willingly .. until they were kicked out...

War of independence in algeria caused 1 million algerian life... france conducted open air nuclear test in mauritania which angered the local... libiya got independence on 1952... n british did not left suex canal until loss off suez canal war... as a whole british and french colonialism angered all countries in the region...

N the issue was not only giving 1% land to the Israel... but saying it is part of crusade and kicking the grave of saladin by french general looked to the arab as insulting and humiliating and no people would accept any decision by colonial power when they come with promise of independence but later colonize land with such a treachery ...

n for your kind info british did not conquested any land... they were allowed to come in as they said they are coming to fight the turk... but later they said we are not going any where and this land is now under our control...

N accepting creation israel of that time would mean giving british and french blank check to do what ever they want to do in other colonized land... and without jerusalem no deal would be acceptable... otherwise it would be shown a great disrespect those who gave their life during crusade....

 

[Stealth_fighter]

the guy who wrote the article about bd-israel relationship, no doubt he is an idiot

 

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

the guy who wrote the article about bd-israel relationship, no doubt he is an idiot

he is just like a stooge which is planted by zionists in different muslim country or wanted to gain some benefit from the zionist writing that article... relationship with Israel can not be established until israel gave back land up to 1967 border including east jerusalem to form an independant palestanian state....

 

[500]

I am not calling other people illegal but occupying other peoples land illegal.. according to UN occupation of Palestinian land beyond 1967 border including east jerusalem is illegal.... n it is accepted by all the country...

But u justified 1948 Arab aggression.

By denying Abraham arab in which category you want to keep him??? or you believe he is from some pure and super natural race???

He was Hebrew Semite. You really think there are no other nations in the world beside the Arabs?

but none claim other peoples land saying we used to live here couple of thousand years ago... so tell me what can be done with usa, canada, and australia... removing all the settlers and give it back to aboriginal people only???

Thats actually your logic. You want to destroy Israel and give it back to so called aboriginal people.

Yes but not semitic jews... do not forget there are 25% heredim lives in israel... n palestanian refugees has more right on the land then those haredim...

All Jews are Semitic, except Eithiopean but they are very few.

No nothing all of those jews are from pure semitic stock and all the people those who converted to judaism in kindom of khazaria just vanished in to sky...

I dont see any proofs for that claim. First you said that Khazars were blond, which is nonsense. Now you came up with happlogroup R1A1 which nothing to do with Turks either. What next?

This is what you are doing ...

First u said that Arabs did not destroy Jewish homes, i showed its not true. Then you diverted to Irgun, I noticed that it came as reaction to Arab terror. When Jewish community of Hebron was destroyed there was not any Irgun.

 

[500]

N the issue was not only giving 1% land to the Israel...

Its 0.1% not 1%. But yes thats not only issue. There are other peoples like Copts, Berbers, Assirians, Kurds... Their lands were captured by the Arabs and they have right to get them back.

 

[RazPaK]

I think Israel should start thinking about the future and start making some friends in the region. I don't mean the kind of friends that dictate policies and need to have approval of the leaders of states. Friendship is a two-way thing. You have to give to recieve. Israel needs to start with the Palestinians, because with this the animosity of other surrounding nations would significantly decrease. If Israel wants to stay, it needs begin friendly campaign with neighbors, rather than be on the offense all the time.

 

[Developereo]

NYC is part of US state. There were not any states here. Lands of fromer Ottoman Empire were devided into new countries.

The land did not belong to the British to 'divide'. The British had made a gentlemen's agreement with the Arab tribes: help us against the Ottomans and we will give you a homeland. The creation of Israel was complete deception by the British (at the behest of the Zionists).

Where from you got the idea that Jews started terror in Middle East?

Sigh. How many times do I have to repeat this?
Please watch the documentary. Both the British and Israeli guests agree that it was Jews who first use terror. The chief of the Haganah himself admits it.

The Arabs were twiddling their thumbs cluelessly, blindly trusting the British, until it became obvious what was going on. Arab reprisals were in response to the Jewish terror.

So?

So it refutes your claim that Saudi Arabia only grants citizenship to Muslims.

Some woman reminded him his grandmom. Where from you get the idea about comparing actions?

He wasn't commenting on some woman he saw in a shopping mall. She was an old Palestinian woman sifting through the rubble of her demolished house. The scene reminded him of his grandmother, who had endured the Holocaust.

 

[fallstuff]

The land did not belong to the British to 'divide'. The British had made a gentlemen's agreement with the Arab tribes: help us against the Ottomans and we will give you a homeland.

It worked for the East India company. Old but effective strategy. I am pretty sure its in circulation in some way.

 

[LaBong]

That's the tragedy of the Palestinians. Their own felliow Arabs are the worst traitors. From the Saudis and Kuwaitis to the corrupt PLO leadership.

India haven't changed it's policy vis-a-vis Palestine till today and voted for Palestine every single time in UN, so India having a relation with Israel will help Palestine in the long term as India will have more leverage on Israels foreign policy. Lip service is more applicable to those who sulk sitting at their home and destroy their own public property to express solidarity with Palestine.

However as much as I support Palestinians right to live in their ancestral land, I also support Jews right to co-exists in that land. Statements like 'Death to all Jews' or "That day even the stones will speak and say, ' ooh muslim, there is a jew hiding behind me, so come and kill him" really makes me flinch and wonder what will happen if somehow Arabs have their ways on Jews. And I don't see moderate Muslims disapproving(vocally) those views.

 

[Developereo]

India will have more leverage on Israels foreign policy

If the US doesn't have leverage over Israel, what makes you think India will?

However as much as I support Palestinians right to live in their ancestral land, I also support Jews right to co-exists in that land.

I agree that Israelis born in Israel cannot be blamed for their parents' crimes, and a compromise needs to be worked out.

Statements like 'Death to all Jews' or "That day even the stones will speak and say, ' ooh muslim, there is a jew hiding behind me, so come and kill him" really makes me flinch and wonder what will happen if somehow Arabs have their ways on Jews. And I don't see moderate Muslims disapproving(vocally) those views.

There are anti-Arab racists among Israel also.

Letter from America: American Jewry | Asian Tribune

I fail to see anything great about Israeli democracy. Most of its leaders are corrupt and immoral, and have come from the military with records of war crimes.

Some are psychopaths. Most are racists. And on the top of that, fascistic leanings have always tainted its government. Peter Beinart writes, “Israeli governments come and go, but the Netanyahu coalition is the product of frightening, long-term trends in Israeli society: an ultra-Orthodox population that is increasing dramatically, a settler movement that is growing more radical and more entrenched in the Israeli bureaucracy and army, and a Russian immigrant community that is particularly prone to anti-Arab racism. In 2009, a poll by the Israel Democracy Institute found that 53 percent of Jewish Israelis (and 77 percent of recent immigrants from the former USSR) support encouraging Arabs to leave the country.

Attitudes are worst among Israel’s young. When Israeli high schools held mock elections last year, Lieberman won. This March, a poll found that 56 percent of Jewish Israeli high school students—and more than 80 percent of religious Jewish high school students—would deny Israeli Arabs the right to be elected to the Knesset. An education ministry official called the survey ‘a huge warning signal in light of the strengthening trends of extremist views among the youth.’” Only in ‘democratic’ Israel can one see such a support for a fascist leader like Lieberman!

And these are just views about Israeli Arabs. You don't want to know what they think of non-Israeli Arabs.

 

[LaBong]

If the US doesn't have leverage over Israel, what makes you think India will?

US does have leverage on Israel, however Israel is doing exactly what US wants her to do.

 

[sarthak]

@ How many times you will break their this tiny chicken neck ? You know Sami6108, on that I was reading one article there I find that in 1965 war the Pakistan Army deployed 1x Company size Commando at Thakurgaon in order to break this chicken neck. It was we donated this chicken neck to the Indian just to make a link with the North East. Most of the people who are staying there are muslims and in 1946 they voted for Pakistan.

@ Once the movement will start we need not do anything it will do "Khud ba khud". That is why they are very much fond of Hasina's favour. With her help they want to do rapid ecomomic development.

Keep dreaming, we will shoot eliminate each and every illegal bangladeshi from the north east just like we do at the borders. Most probably , they would be so scared to be shot , or even worse , deported from india, that they'll keep their seperatist sentiment under control. If not for anything else ,the locals will kick out your immigrants if they try to spread any discord.

 

[Md Akmal]

Keep dreaming, we will shoot eliminate each and every illegal bangladeshi from the north east just like we do at the borders. Most probably , they would be so scared to be shot , or even worse , deported from india, that they'll keep their seperatist sentiment under control. If not for anything else ,the locals will kick out your immigrants if they try to spread any discord.

@ Realistic dreaming is always welcome. Now if we see the present situation in India, the Kashmir is on the verge of secession any time any moment it might collapse. You are holding it with .5 million security forces. Under these circumstances, is it econically viable ? It is not a defeat ?

@ The long tradition of enrolement of Sikhs in the Army is reduced a lot. The Southern people are hating you. You have a problem in North Eastern Provinces. Most of these people have already converted to Christianity. If East Timur and Sudan can be created to independant state with UN sponser why not in NE provinces through referendum. It is not we , you are dreaming to become a pernament member of UN Security Council.

 

[LaBong]

@ Realistic dreaming is always welcome. Now if we see the present situation in India, the Kashmir is on the verge of secession any time any moment it might collapse. You are holding it with .5 million security forces. Under these circumstances, is it econically viable ? It is not a defeat ?

@ The long tradition of enrolement of Sikhs in the Army is reduced a lot. The Southern people are hating you. You have a problem in North Eastern Provinces. Most of these people have already converted to Christianity. If East Timur and Sudan can be created to independant state with UN sponser why not in NE provinces through referendum. It is not we , you are dreaming to become a pernament member of UN Security Council.

Keep dreaming, we will shoot eliminate each and every illegal bangladeshi from the north east just like we do at the borders. Most probably , they would be so scared to be shot , or even worse , deported from india, that they'll keep their seperatist sentiment under control. If not for anything else ,the locals will kick out your immigrants if they try to spread any discord.

 

[EjazR]

@ Sohni Dharti

Aid to Palestinians matter immensly. Afterall, Palestinians can't eat or drink empty slogans of destroying Israel. Nor can they study or benefit from such slogans.

Other than monetary aid, India provides loads of scholarships for Higher education to Palestinians to study in Indian unis. It also participates in construction efforts in Palestine like building schools and sport centers.

India is not in the position to actually influence the outcome of negotiations. Hell its not even part of the Quartet or the Arab League. Its only the US that can pressure Israel in any form of negotiations. India has no leverage with Israel as such except some good will generated from 2 decades of diplomatic and more recently defense relations.

Lets not forget that when Afghan War was taking place in the 80s, the Mossad was passing on Soviet arms for PLO to Pakistan to be used against the Soviets. Not only that, the Pakistani army contingent that was based in Jordan under the command of Zia Ul Haq joined the Jordanian Army in suppressing and killing thousands of Palestinians that revolted against the King in 1970 and is known even today as Black September among the Palestinians.

When it comes down to who has been supportive to Palestinians in REAL TERMS and not just empty slogans; then I think there would be touch competition from India to Pakistan or Bangladesh if not an outright win for India.