What's new

Three Indian blunders in the 1971 war

Our main objective was liberation of East Pakistan

But we ALSO wanted to maintain SOME Relations with US and the
Western Countries who were ALL opposed to Indian actions

Therefore we had to give some leeway toPakistan

If we had gone in for more punishment to Pakistan then ENTIRE West
would have imposed sanctions on India along with OIC countries


US had already threatened to NUKE India in case attacked West Pakistan
 
. .
One thing which Indian don't understand is that, if Germany can reunite, Old European enemies can become EU then it is not possible for Bangladesh and Pakistan to reunite again, if their people want it, because Bangladesh is still an independent country not occupied land by India.
In your first post you said west Pakistanis didn't really want east to be part of them. Now you are dreaming that they will reunite with you? Cognitive dissonance, eh?

BTW, do you think any country in their right minds would want to join Pak, as things stand today? You do know that Pak is not the most highly desirable place on earth, right? They would much rather join neighbouring China which is an emergin giant, than Pakistan which is a...well...
 
.
1-jpg.175863

Trolling level: EPIC :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
.
Really? After fighting a war to keep east Pakistan and then losing it, now you pretend you didn't really want it? The story of te fox and sour grapes comes to mind.

I m not pretending, sadly it was reality during 60s of our top brass, ordinary people did not know any thing like that in West Pakistan, they want to have East Pakistan which they love too.
 
.
IN the UNSC Only Soviet Union was supporting India

Here also Soviet Union had to MAINTAIN A fine Balance between Its
OIC Friends and India

The Soviet and Indian JOINT Arguement in the UNSC was the Human Rights Situation of
East Pakistan

Soviet Union had declared that it will support India ONLY for liberating East Pakistan
 
. .
In your first post you said west Pakistanis didn't really want east to be part of them. Now you are dreaming that they will reunite with you? Cognitive dissonance, eh?

BTW, do you think any country in their right minds would want to join Pak, as things stand today? You do know that Pak is not the most highly desirable place on earth, right? They would much rather join neighbouring China which is an emergin giant, than Pakistan which is a...well...

I never said that people of Pakistan did not wanted to have East Pakistan, it was our top brass the elites class which did not want to have Bengali ruler on their head.
 
. .
then by your logic it is also possible to reunite India,Pakistan and BD.:P

Theoretically yes, practically possible but very difficult. I will be happy if that happened.
 
.
I never said that people of Pakistan did not wanted to have East Pakistan, it was our top brass the elites class which did not want to have Bengali ruler on their head.
Your rulers very much wanted east Pakistan - but they also wanted to be the rulers of East Pak. It's not that they did not want E Pak, it was just that they didn't want anybody else being elected other than themselves.
 
.
The surprising thing is that India help Mujeeb to create Bangladesh but if you see equipment of their military its majority of Chinese why? they don't trust India their so called big bro?
 
.
I know but don't think India could try Pakistan for a crime it didn't commit on Indians or on Indian soil. Therefore your article makes no sense.
I told you to read the article
Politically, the war began in April 1971 when Pakistan pushed nearly nine million refugees into India through a campaign of rape, murder and terror that statistically comes close to Hitler's genocide of Jews in the Second World War, in scale and brutality.
The Pakistani army selectively targeted Hindus, members of the Awami League and Bangladesh intellectuals. It was a well known secret that the bulk of the refugees (close to 70 per cent) were Hindus.
IN the UNSC Only Soviet Union was supporting India

Here also Soviet Union had to MAINTAIN A fine Balance between Its
OIC Friends and India

The Soviet and Indian JOINT Arguement in the UNSC was the Human Rights Situation of
East Pakistan

Soviet Union had declared that it will support India ONLY for liberating East Pakistan
Ofcourse!!!
Now read this
On December 10, even as Nixon and Kissinger were frothing at the mouth, Indian intelligence intercepted an American message, indicating that the US Seventh Fleet was steaming into the war zone. The Seventh Fleet, which was then stationed in the Gulf of Tonkin, was led by the 75,000 ton nuclear powered aircraft carrier, the USS Enterprise. The world’s largest warship, it carried more than 70 fighters and bombers. The Seventh Fleet also included the guided missile cruiser USS King, guided missile destroyers USS Decatur, Parsons and Tartar Sam, and a large amphibious assault ship USS Tripoli.
Standing between the Indian cities and the American ships was the Indian Navy’s Eastern Fleet led by the 20,000-ton aircraft carrier, Vikrant, with barely 20 light fighter aircraft. When asked if India’s Eastern Fleet would take on the Seventh Fleet, the Flag Officer Commanding-in-Chief, Vice Admiral N. Krishnan, said: “Just give us the orders.” The Indian Air Force, having wiped out the Pakistani Air Force within the first week of the war, was reported to be on alert for any possible intervention by aircraft from the Enterprise.
Meanwhile, Soviet intelligence reported that a British naval group led by the aircraft carrier Eagle had moved closer to India’s territorial waters. This was perhaps one of the most ironic events in modern history where the Western world’s two leading democracies were threatening the world’s largest democracy in order to protect the perpetrators of the largest genocide since the Holocaust in Nazi Germany. However, India did not panic. It quietly sent Moscow a request to activate a secret provision of the Indo-Soviet security treaty, under which Russia was bound to defend India in case of any external aggression.
The British and the Americans had planned a coordinated pincer to intimidate India: while the British ships in the Arabian Sea would target India’s western coast, the Americans would make a dash into the Bay of Bengal in the east where 100,000 Pakistani troops were caught between the advancing Indian troops and the sea.
To counter this two-pronged British-American threat, Russia dispatched a nuclear-armed flotilla from Vladivostok on December 13 under the overall command of Admiral Vladimir Kruglyakov, the Commander of the 10th Operative Battle Group (Pacific Fleet). Though the Russian fleet comprised a good number of nuclear-armed ships and atomic submarines, their missiles were of limited range (less than 300 km). Hence to effectively counter the British and American fleets the Russian commanders had to undertake the risk of encircling them to bring them within their target. This they did with military precision.
In an interview to a Russian TV programme after his retirement, Admiral Kruglyakov, who commanded the Pacific Fleet from 1970 to 1975, recalled that Moscow ordered the Russian ships to prevent the Americans and British from getting closer to “Indian military objects”. The genial Kruglyakov added: “The Chief Commander’s order was that our submarines should surface when the Americans appear. It was done to demonstrate to them that we had nuclear submarines in the Indian Ocean. So when our subs surfaced, they recognised us. In the way of the American Navy stood the Soviet cruisers, destroyers and atomic submarines equipped with anti-ship missiles. We encircled them and trained our missiles at the Enterprise. We blocked them and did not allow them to close in on Karachi, Chittagong or Dhaka."
At this point, the Russians intercepted a communication from the commander of the British carrier battle group, Admiral Dimon Gordon, to the Seventh Fleet commander: “Sir, we are too late. There are the Russian atomic submarines here, and a big collection of battleships.” The British ships fled towards Madagascar while the larger US task force stopped before entering the Bay of Bengal.
The Russian manoeuvres clearly helped prevent a direct clash between India and the US-UK combine. Newly declassified documents reveal that the Indian Prime Minister went ahead with her plan to liberate Bangladesh despite inputs that the Americans had kept three battalions of Marines on standby to deter India, and that the American aircraft carrier USS Enterprise had orders to target the Indian Army, which had broken through the Pakistani Army’s defences and was thundering down the highway to the gates of Lahore, West Pakistan’s second largest city.
According to a six-page note prepared by India's foreign ministry, "The bomber force aboard the Enterprise had the US President's authority to undertake bombing of the Indian Army's communications, if necessary.
 
.
Nope...its all because our leadership that has always been patsy that we still have to bear the brunt of their silly mistakes.

Btw why would a user named "kans" who uses arabic be Ukranian?? false flagger?? are you??
simple this is term for Sniper in Arabic, because sniper was already a chosen name on PDF so i adopted an Arabic term, and i no need to be false flagger at all.
 
.
Your rulers very much wanted east Pakistan - but they also wanted to be the rulers of East Pak. It's not that they did not want E Pak, it was just that they didn't want anybody else being elected other than themselves.

Man, you are just assuming what was shown to the world, but if you know the real stories then you will know that top elite class never wanted East Pakistan since Independence and they create situation in which India got chance to create Bangladesh and they did not get any blame.
 
.

Pakistan Affairs Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom