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Thousands protest in Turkey over Istanbul mayor's conviction

The next election seems very important for Turkey. Erdogan have changed the course of Turkey, towards an independent regional power and a country that can compete in top technologies. A change in regime may reverse this course. Erdogan needs 5 more years to take Turkey to his desired status. A regime change would affect Pakistan as well as Turkey is one of the two main military technology supplier and a western obedient Turkey is something Pakistan doesn't want.

Unlikely opposition leaders change the course of Turkish military program. That is something that any Turkish leaders will support. Turkey any way always have large military spending since many decades ago. Their region push them to have large military budget.

But large spending in military budget, including large investment in local defense industry program needs economic power, unless you want end up like USSR

Erdogan in his 2017-2022 period has made many bad economic policy. This is why IMF latest economic projection (October 2022) shows less optimistic view on Turkey.


OECD latest economic projection also shows similar view

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Not sure about the first quote, but the second is a fake. He literally never said this. It's quite literally a fake quote.
I have cited a Turkish newspaper report given by a Turkish person living in Turkey. He said this in 1996 when he was a mayor of Istanbul. More importantly, I think, he has acted upon it. Words, especially a politician, real or aspiring, may be considered hot air. But his actions as a DeFacto Sultan are more revealing.

If you are interested, read:
 
Most Turkish people seems to dislike Erdogan though, doubt he'll win a free and fair election

U r right but ppl are often dumb and gullible. Turks are westernized mostly and would prefer to be western slaves than honorable independent power.

Unlikely opposition leaders change the course of Turkish military program. That is something that any Turkish leaders will support. Turkey any way always have large military spending since many decades ago. Their region push them to have large military budget.

But large spending in military budget, including large investment in local defense industry program needs economic power, unless you want end up like USSR

Erdogan in his 2017-2022 period has made many bad economic policy. This is why IMF latest economic projection (October 2022) shows less optimistic view on Turkey.


OECD latest economic projection also shows similar view

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Turkey used to spend on wesrern weapons, it was erdogan that focused on localization. Client states will always soend huge sums on imported weapons, showing off but in reality supporting industry of their masters, see example of Egypt.
Also economy is affected by geo-politics. Are u old enough to remember Turkish economy before erdogan? It was erdogan that actually brought Turkey up. His stand on issues means the west will try n destabilize economy but he is working towards independence and becoming a regional power house. Is it ok for u to be a western slave if ur economy is good? By the way indonesia also follows the line and can not dare look the other way.
 
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Unlikely opposition leaders change the course of Turkish military program. That is something that any Turkish leaders will support. Turkey any way always have large military spending since many decades ago. Their region push them to have large military budget

He is not talking about military budget

He is talking about Turkish Defense Industry led by president ERDOGAN
( Turkish military projects have risen to 757 from 62 between 2003 and 2022 )


ERDOGAN made Turkish Defense Industry as global power
Turkiye needs more 5 years led by Erdogan to finish the all Turkish major military projects

or pro American puppets will stop Turkish major military projects as like they did it in 1940s

Turkiye produced Aircraft in 1936-1944
but ISMET INONU ( CHP ) blocked them to develop Turkish Aviation Industry

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Not sure about the first quote, but the second is a fake. He literally never said this. It's quite literally a fake quote.
He's said the first one for sure.

Erdogan have changed the course of Turkey, towards an independent regional power and a country that can compete in top technologies.
He wants to make it look like an independent country,but it actually is a country with an irrational foreign policy. Erdogan has betrayed everyone to the point where both NATO and Russia don't trust him.
 
He is not talking about military budget

He is talking about Turkish Defense Industry led by president ERDOGAN
( Turkish military projects have risen to 757 from 62 between 2003 and 2022 )


ERDOGAN made Turkish Defense Industry as global power
Turkiye needs more 5 years led by Erdogan to finish the all Turkish major military projects

or pro American puppets will stop Turkish major military projects as like they did it in 1940s

Turkiye produced Aircraft in 1936-1944
but ISMET INONU ( CHP ) blocked them to develop Turkish Aviation Industry

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I am talking about both, military budget and local defense program.

That is true, different administration can change course, but unlikely to make opposite turn, the worst scenario is slowing the local development program

Indonesia is not immune for this as well. Current government has very economic centric view and almost scrapped KF21/IFX program since the program is initiated by the party that is currently in the opposition side

Regardless of that, ruining democratic system will create the worst outcome for Turkey future. Democracy is the best way for all internal powers to compete in a peaceful manner with smooth succession process.

What is done by Erdogan is dangerous, and if you cannot see it as dangerous then you are typical person with short sight mindset
 
Regardless of that, ruining democratic system will create the worst outcome for Turkey future.

Not ERDOGAN
but Pro American puppet politicans/generals and FETO terrorists destroyed democratic system in Turkiye .. ( military coup by 1960,1971,1980,1997,2016 )

ERDOGAN always was selected by Turkish People in real democratic elections


ERDOGAN is a gift to Turkish people who made Turkiye great again



All Enemies of TURKIYE support IMAMOGLU here

Why ? because IMAMOGLU will work for American-Israeli-European interests instead of Turkiye's national interests

They wants a puppet leader instead of ERDOGAN ( honorable independent power )
 
but Pro American puppet politicans/generals and FETO terrorists destroyed democratic system in Turkiye .. ( military coup by 1960,1971,1980,1997,2016 )
Oh he's not a "dictator"?

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Thousands protest in Turkey over Istanbul mayor's conviction




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ISTANBUL, Dec 15 (Reuters) - Thousands of people rallied in Turkey on Thursday to oppose the conviction and political ban of Istanbul Mayor Ekrem Imamoglu, chanting slogans criticising President Tayyip Erdogan and his ruling AK Party before elections next year.

A Turkish court on Wednesday sentenced Imamoglu, a popular rival to Erdogan, to two years and seven months in prison, which like the ban must be confirmed by an appeals court. The verdict drew wide criticism at home and abroad as an abuse of democracy.
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Late on Thursday, media reports said the prosecutor in the case had launched a legal challenge to the verdict, seeking a longer jail sentence for Imamoglu. No further details were immediately available.

"Rights, law, justice. ... The day will come when the AKP is called to account," the crowd chanted.

Next year's presidential and parliamentary elections, due to be held by June, could prove one of the biggest political challenges to Erdogan's two decades in power, as Turks grapple with surging living costs and a plunging currency. The lira fell to a record low against the dollar this week.

"The government is afraid and that's why there was such a verdict. Nobody can stop this nation," said Filiz Kumbasar, 56, who travelled to the rally from Duzce, a town 200 km (125 miles) from Istanbul, Turkey's commercial hub of 16 million people.

mamoglu was convicted of insulting public officials in a speech he made after he won Istanbul's election in 2019. Critics say Turkish courts bend to Erdogan's will. The government says the judiciary is independent.

"You beat them two times already and you'll do it again," Imamoglu told the crowd, referring to an initial vote in 2019 that he won but which was annulled and a re-run that followed and which he also won.

"All 16 million Istanbulites, our nation and our big Turkey alliance is behind me. We will change this order in the election next year," he said.

The six-party opposition alliance formed against Erdogan, led by Imamoglu's Republican People's Party (CHP), has yet to agree on a presidential candidate. Imamoglu has been mooted as a possible challenger and polls suggest he would defeat Erdogan.

The court ruling, if upheld, would bar him from running.

"We are here today to protect our rights and the votes of millions of people from Istanbul. We are here because we want to live in a country where there's rule of law," said Aslihan Gulhan, who works in the tourism sector.

Imamoglu was tried over a speech in which he said those who annulled the initial 2019 vote - in which he narrowly defeated an AKP candidate - were "fools". Imamoglu says his remark was a response to Interior Minister Suleyman Soylu, who he said used the same language against him.

His comfortable win in the re-run vote ended the 25-year rule in Istanbul of the AKP and its Islamist predecessors.


Erdogan the fool will loose the next election. A good thing for peace.

He is real great leader who kicked FETO , PKK , DHKPC Terrorists

dont show me FETO , PKK , DHKPC Terrorists
Erdo is the 21st century Hitler. Fortunately with a less powerfull and disciplined people.
 
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And you eat his propaganda like a good idiot. Well done!

You can fool only anti-Erdogan idiots

2016 military coup was not a propaganda as like 1960,1971,1980,1997 military coup
HDP and PKK Terrorists are not propaganda

you are huge enemy to Turkish People who eat FETO , PKK propaganda like a good idiot. Well done!


Erdogan the fool will loose the next election. A good thing for peace.

All enemies of Turkish People hate ERDOGAN
That means Erdogan is good leader for Turkiye , instead of puppet leader

ERDOGAN-BAHCELI will rule Turkiye until june 2028


Erdo is the 21st century Hitler. Fortuinately with a less powerfull and disciplined people.

loser MACRON
 
Not ERDOGAN
but Pro American puppet politicans/generals and FETO terrorists destroyed democratic system in Turkiye .. ( military coup by 1960,1971,1980,1997,2016 )

ERDOGAN always was selected by Turkish People in real democratic elections


ERDOGAN is a gift to Turkish people who made Turkiye great again



All Enemies of TURKIYE support IMAMOGLU here

Why ? because IMAMOGLU will work for American-Israeli-European interests instead of Turkiye's national interests

They wants a puppet leader instead of ERDOGAN ( honorable independent power )
Just recall us how is the inflation rate in this wonderfull country with such a gifted president ?

ERDOGAN-BAHCELI will rule Turkiye until june 2028
Enough time to ruin 90% of its population.
Are you blind?
 
Just recall us how is the inflation rate in this wonderfull country with such a gifted president ?

how are our loser enemies in İraq , Syria , Libya , Karabakh and in the Eastern Mediterranean ?

ERDOGAN kicked all of you to protect Turkish People and Turkish national interests


Enough time to ruin 90% of its population.
Are you blind?

Enough time to finish all major Turkish military projects

Enough time to kick PKK/YPG out off Mumbic , Tel Rıfat , Ayn-al Arab in Syria

Enough time to do what we want in Libya and in the Eastern Mediterranean
 

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