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This Is What the Modi Sarkar Has Done to Indian Muslims

It is unfortunate that we couldn't get another territory or two for Indian Muslims as Ch. Rehmat Ali desired. That would have solved my problems.
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Lol, who created this map? You guys haven't even left little SL hehe. Just for your info, SL is not part of India. Also, what is DINIA? Title to padhlo thik se.
 
Thanks brother. I honestly have not had any interactions with you. This is the first time time I think.

I am glad that finally Pakistanis and Indian Muslims seem to be on the same page. I hope this friendship continues and deepens, because honestly I have been burned by many Indian Muslims before, due to misplaced anger of blaming their issues with Indian government on Pakistan.

More commonality and positive people to people relations are needed to form a unified front against Indian majoritarianism.

We may have different origins and different race, but it doesn't mean we have to be enemies.

Even BDis are beginning to see the necessity of relations with Pakistan.

First we had interactions in discussing some herbal medicines and you said you are a dr. And like I always believe blaming Pakistan was never a solution and a measure to show patriotism towards ones country but many people fails to understand the basic things. Like mocking Pakistanis might score a few brownie points to the best but it is useless in solving real crisis.

Hello, Mad Scientist is an Indian. If I'm advising him to stay away from the Talibanis, I'm not being unreasonable. Secondly, I never said anything against Pukhtoons. I had only shared my personal experiences with Afghans with you and a few others in a personal friendly capacity, which you're using to paint me in a negative light. That won't work. I don't participate in Afghan-related threads here as I don't care much about them.

Thirdly, Clifftonite was pretty good to not only me but many other Indian posters here (ask anyone). I don't know why he got banned but none of us responsible for that.

It appears Mad Scientist is a good kid although a bit misguided. If I can prevent him from hanging out with your types, I should do that. It will not be nice if you take advantage of his confused state of mind, and his lack of experience with life. To radicalize and poison him, perhaps. I don't know why can't you leave this kid alone!

But at the end of the day, he's not a baby, and I'm not here to babysit for anyone.

I'm not going to debate with you who is a Muslim, and who is not.
Sir no one going to be radicalized or be poisoned to do anything which may prove anything but fatal in multiple level, that is not worthy at all. But I do see you as a good human being who can give good advices. Rest assured.
 
Sounds about right if you are looking into a mirror. The only persons with obsessions here are a small coterie who start threads to discuss obsessions.


a response for the sake of a response...

the reality is indian are obsessed with Pakistan. That is a fact. You dont believe it .. dont it. doesnt change what is there on the ground.
 
a response for the sake of a response...

the reality is indian are obsessed with Pakistan. That is a fact. You dont believe it .. dont it. doesnt change what is there on the ground.

That is precisely what can be said about your post. Or don't you read mirror writing?

a response for the sake of a response...

the reality is indian are obsessed with Pakistan. That is a fact. You dont believe it .. dont it. doesnt change what is there on the ground.

The reality is that you and several others like you actually went to the ridiculous, to the demented extent of starting a thread about this. That is a fact, a verifiable one, not your opinion dressed up with a pearl necklace. It is there on the ground, rather than mythical and imaginary things that you lot see.
 
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This Is What the Modi Sarkar Has Done to Indian Muslims
Indian Muslims are being stripped of their Indian identity even as they are blamed for not being Indian enough.

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"With passing time, and with limited choice, my identity got established. I was a Muslim. Nothing less and nothing more." Photo: Public domain


Anonymous
COMMUNALISM
08/JUL/2020
Studying at Aligarh Muslim University (AMU) in the 1990s, my first physical fight was with a Muslim Kashmiri boy during the telecast of an India-Pakistan cricket match on the hostel TV set. He kept supporting Pakistan even when our team was playing better cricket.

I was a total nationalist. I loved war movies depicting Indian victory. A lump rose in my throat every time I heard the song ‘Sare jahan se achha Hindustan humara’. My heartbreaks when India lost crucial cricket matches were the talk of the town. All in all, my heart bled for India and I decided to stay put here even when most of my allegedly ‘non-patriotic’ Muslim friends and axiomatically ‘patriotic’ Hindu friends opted to leave for greener pastures in the West.

On another front, my liberal views made me stand out in a place like AMU. The sarcastic term to describe Muslims like me was ‘liberated’. I felt pride in the fact that I was both Muslim and ‘liberated’. Identity was a matter of choice for me. It happens when you are privileged.

Times changed. India changed. The demolition of the Babri Masjid, the Gujarat pogrom, rising communal tension, and finally a regime change. All this cast a disturbing shadow on my identity. For the first time in my life I started feeling more and more Muslim. The mirror of privilege to choose an identity had suddenly cracked. With a typical Muslim name, I found it impossible to rent a home in a metropolitan city. On learning my name, people’s expressions would alter, and suspicious glances would be exchanged. Conversations hushed as I entered my office. With passing time, and with limited choice, my identity got established. I was a Muslim. Nothing less and nothing more.

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As the Modi sarkar took a stronger foothold, the lynching of Muslims started. It disturbed me. My established identity could now bring a sudden and violent end to life. I started to debate less in public. I stopped saying salamwaleikum on receiving a phone call in a public space. I taught my kids to not call me abba while travelling on a train or a bus. I even started tweaking my name. Meat dishes were out of the menu, more so when I travelled. I had never imagined that the privilege of identity could actually turn into a handicap for me. In this new India, being both a Muslim and ‘liberated’ could mean sure trouble.

I started to live in fear. I pondered on my identity more than I did at any point in my life. I still didn’t say prayers five times and still didn’t fast in Ramzan. But I continued to be a Muslim.

On social media my name enraged people. I was shunned and trolled when speaking against the atrocities on my fellow citizens. Strangely, the most explicit of abuses came when I wrote against the caste system. Identity was now someone else’s privilege! Words like kafir, jihadi, antinational, mullah, katua followed me on every page of the web. I was accused of being affiliated to the Taliban and ISIS. My liberal values were mocked: “How can a Muslim support a democracy?” If I attempted to argue, my detractors would ask me to go to Pakistan, and sometimes even Saudi Arabia. A cloud of hate hung over my head all the time, like a halo, and I started becoming used to its presence.

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The whole idea was to make me realise that I was a Muslim alone. Any other identity was not for me. Gradually, I too started becoming wary of wearing my patriotism on my sleeve. I think the most dangerous and unfortunate part of any system of apartheid is the fatigue of those who are optimistic despite the discrimination. As each optimist begins to lose hope, the discrimination wins and gets rooted a little more firmly. The protests against the Citizenship (Amendment) Act drew me in, but only as a Muslim who sees the writing on the wall. The concerned citizen of a democracy was slowly fading away like the evening sky.

Humans lose hope when they are not loved. To be differentiated and discriminated is to be alienated. As Pablo Neruda said in his poem, ‘If you forget me‘:

Well, now,

if little by little you stop loving me
I shall stop loving you, little by little

If suddenly

you forget me
do not look for me
for I shall already have forgotten you

When India lost the cricket World Cup semi-final in July 2019, I felt bad not because India lost but because something in me had already died. My overriding feeling that day was just relief. The relief that Modi could not turn a World Cup victory into yet another moment of personal aggrandisement. Relief that the bigots who had abused me and others would be denied a moment of happiness which so quickly turns into chauvinism in their hands. Relief because it spared us interminable chest thumping by rabid news anchors who had nothing to do with the game but would have taken credit for a victory anyway or found some way to turn it into a communal issue.

Also read: In New India, a Muslim Rose Smells Different From a Hindu Rose

When news of the Chinese intrusion came, I looked at the issue as if from the outside. I felt terrible for the slain soldiers, of course, but as fellow human beings and not because they and I are Indian. Like other Indians, I felt revulsion at the obfuscation by ‘nationalist’ anchors who have used the word ‘appeasement’ so often and so loosely, they no longer are able to recognise it when it happens in front of them. Like other Indians, I felt revulsion at the post-intrusion mumbling, kneeling and lying by the prime minister. The humiliation of a leader whose regime had humiliated me and others like me so much – and which thinks nothing of labelling us ‘anti-national’ and ‘seditious’ – did not displease me so much as fill me with dread about the future of our country which is clearly not safe in their hands.

Since the “leader” is seen as synonymous with “nation”, the social media trolls will still see me as a Muslim who is not an Indian for writing this. But for everyone else, I have no doubt they will understand what I am saying: that when nations treat their citizens unequally, the notion of national identity takes a beating.

I write this piece anonymously because I have a family. I have a job. I live in a neighbourhood. This is a New India and I am a coward. It had to be anonymous.
Discrimination based on race, religion, caste, creed , masslaq, is everywhere .
This happens everywhere .this is not only in india .live with it .
 
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but ..... but ..... but .... if we appease him, he might become patriotic again.

Would't that be Grand ? :angel:
Majority of muslims are patriotic indian.
No need of appeasement , cowardness of hindus is responsible for this , being a majority this is responsibility of hindus to make muslims feel safe in india , why a coward mob of hindus lynch muslims on rumour of beef ? Why govt does not punish those criminals who lynch innocent muslims ?
 
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First we had interactions in discussing some herbal medicines and you said you are a dr.

Vaguely remember that. It must have been a while back.

a response for the sake of a response...

the reality is indian are obsessed with Pakistan. That is a fact. You dont believe it .. dont it. doesnt change what is there on the ground.

They can never stop, it is a cancer now that has enveloped their whole being. One here is calling Pakistanis Talibans, other is sneaking in insults.

Congress are just as bad as RSS, neither value the rights of Indian Muslims, and both have a habit of blaming and villifying Pakistanis for all problems.

Current India cannot last. It must be done away with altogether.
 
So you agree that being majority Hindus have to appease muslims to make them "feel safe".

Maybe we can start by offering our first born as hostage so that muslims feel safe ? :agree:

Maybe Hindus can encourage more theft and smuggling of cows and opening of illegal slaughter houses so that musilms can feel "safe". :agree:

No need for appeasement , just punish criminals who kill innocent muslims by lynching .no need to take law in hand , police is there for criminals , hand them over to police .
 
So you agree that being majority Hindus have to appease muslims to make them "feel safe".

Maybe we can start by offering our first born as hostage so that muslims feel safe ? :agree:

Maybe Hindus can encourage more theft and smuggling of cows and opening of illegal slaughter houses so that musilms can feel "safe". :agree:

Making your fellow country feel safe is not appeasement. Do you want them to feel unsafe.
 
LOL...... but ..... but ..... but ...... you just said its the responsibility of "majority hindu" to make you feel "safe" :cheesy:

or you will do this,

I am not a muslim , i am a good hindu who does not discriminate between hindus or muslims or any other religion .
Sir you are jumping from one point to another , i just stated that it is responsibility of majority that they do not lynch any minority .
I am not favouring any criminal be it vikas dubey or dowd ibrahim , let the police deal the criminals .
 
Sir you are jumping from one point to another , i just stated that it is responsibility of majority that they do not lynch any minority .
I am not favouring any criminal be it vikas dubey or dowd ibrahim , let the police deal the criminals .

Is it the responsibility of the "minority" not to lynch any "majority" ?
 

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