this is called breaking pakistan and not what Altaf Hussain said

[Sinnerman108]

The more the merrier. I see no problem with more provinces whatsoever.

No,
Every new province comes with it's own operational and overhead costs.
These costs are horrifically high, even for the provinces that we have; it is not sensible to call for more provinces in such state.

Lastly, please note that these provinces "Sindh", "saraiki" are more feudal dependent than any thing else.

 

[Kompromat]

Lets not mix up racism with ethnicity. Two are distinctly different. Ethnicity means identifying with a classification of a grouping. You can do that at any time for as long as it does not impinge on someone else's rights as another ethnicity.

Karachi is too multi-ethnic to become an Urdu speaking province. Lets read between the lines here. If Karachi is split up from Sind, it means the PTI, MQM, PPP and ANP all will have to form the provincial government of their own. Nobody from the interior of Sind will be calling shots while living in the rural areas. People living in Karachi would be able to hire, spend, collect revenues on their own. There are many benefits to be had with this delineation.

I'd have to respectfully disagree with you on this one sir. The very notion of Urdus, Punjabis, Sindhis yada yada is against the spirit of Pakistan.

I want to slowly eradicate provincialism and replace it with Pakistaniat. More provinces are an administrative issue and should be solved on administrative basis.

People who advise us not to scum to the demands of the terrorists must also advise us not to scum to the demands of a racist psychopath.

 

[Amaa'n]

i will second what other senior members have said - and we have said it all this time - there is nothing wrong with creating more provinces - but it should not be done to gain Political benefits but to actually work for the betterment of people---
We can divide balochistan into atleast 3 provinces, and have some people from other provinces to migrate into the area ---
in the same way there is nothing wrong with dividing sindh on Administrative basis and not on race or ethnic - because this way you are actually diving people - urdu speaking will be of view that they have had been ignored and now with the new province - they have gained independence - this is like playing with their innocent mids

 

[Pakistani E]

So the logic being used here is that Pakistan does need more provinces but not based on ethnicity? right? Well the logic being used against dividing Sindh is the same.

You think people of urban Sindh will not demand a separate provinces when they are constantly denied a local government of their choosing.

The only people running scared are the waderas and the corrupt jagirdars who loot urban Sindh without accountability and then play the Sindh card when people of urban Sindh demand equal opportunities.

You think people of urban Sindh will not demand a separate province when racist and ethnic quotas are placed on them punishing them for being educated?

You think people of urban Sindh will not demand a separate province when the establishment uses their own army against them to weaken a political party they overwhelmingly support?

It's ok to demand another province in KPK (hazarawal) It's ok also to demand two in Punjab (bhawalpur and seraiki etc) but suddenly the heaven falls if another segment of Pakistanis demand a province for themselves? I don't know it sounds racist actually...

 

[pak-marine]

@blain2

New provinces are needed but not on a racist agenda but on administrative basis.

whats hazara province demand than ? what ground is it on ? what is sindh ? punjab ? KPK name ? what ground is it on ... karachi ki bari atti hai tu double standards ... great , not surprised why altaf used such remarks !!

 

[Kompromat]

whats hazara province demand than ? what ground is it on ? what is sindh ? punjab ? KPK name ? what ground is it on ... karachi ki bari atti hai tu double standards ... great , not surprised why altaf used such remarks !!

There are 27 Divisions in 4 provinces, turn them into provinces. Back them up with a local govt /district govt model like Musharraf did.

All public services should be made available on a Tehsil level, ie Passport, CNIC, Banks, Colleges, Liabraries, Hospitals and BHUs, Police and rescue 1122. Universities should be built in every district, each district ought to produce its own revenue through taxation and fully accountable to NAB and FBR. Digital land record centers and courts on district level.

Most of your issues are solved...

Not sure about you, but my only loyalty is to my country not my province or a bogus racial identity. No psychotic motherfuckker would be able to convince me otherwise.

 

[pak-marine]

Not sure about you, but my only loyalty is to my country not my province or a bogus racial identity. No psychotic motherfuckker would be able to convince me otherwise.

because you dont have a problem ... ! KPK was renamed recently how many stood up and opposed the idea , not even buzdil khan

 

[Kompromat]

@pak-marine

I don't have a problem because unlike you, i'm not a racist.
New provinces are an administrative issue and should be solved accordingly.

 

[airmarshal]

i think all tuttoos of Altaf Hussain must stop deceiving us. We have seen enough of him for the last 3 decades.

Praises of this man will not work. Nothing is new here and we have seen MQM track record enough to know and decide who is right and who is wrong.

We have to move away from this traditional Pakistan politics. The idols we have created out of these people who we call leaders must be shattered. This idol worship is holding back the potential of our nation. These leaders have divided us, not united us.

A leader is not a leader who divides. Altaf Hussain is the leader of an ethnic party belonging to just one city. Thats his core despite how much you praise who he is. He is a phattoo sitting in London away from his people and away from the country he does politics in.

 

[Slayer786]

Pakistan definitely need more provinces but the problem is a party that has presence in only one city, how can they demand a separate province? That too on ethnic basis? And the province in not yet on discussion tables and see how Altaf has threaten to make a new country out of that province..

Well you know that when Pakistan was formed. Four states were created based on ethnicity. Sindh for Sindhis, Punjab for Punjabis, NWFP for Pashtuns and Balochistan for Balochs.
But still it is not the right time to be discussing creating more provinces as our country is not stable. First we need to defeat the terrorists, improve our economy and then discuss these issues.

i think all tuttoos of Altaf Hussain must stop deceiving us. We have seen enough of him for the last 3 decades.

Praises of this man will not work. Nothing is new here and we have seen MQM track record enough to know and decide who is right and who is wrong.

We have to move away from this traditional Pakistan politics. The idols we have created out of these people who we call leaders must be shattered. This idol worship is holding back the potential of our nation. These leaders have divided us, not united us.

A leader is not a leader who divides. Altaf Hussain is the leader of an ethnic party belonging to just one city. Thats his core despite how much you praise who he is. He is a phattoo sitting in London away from his people and away from the country he does politics in.

Doesnt Hyderabad count as another city? Doesnt MQM holds power over there?
Just checking.

 

[W.11]

 

[Cheetah786]

What is the problem in having more provinces? Its the best way to devolve power and funding away from the Federal government to offer better governance to the people. Its a silly insecurity amongst Pakistanis to not want more provinces.

1)And how are we going to Negotiate the creation of this province with supreme leader Via phone or skype?

2)We take Karachi and Hyderabad Two major cities not to mention couple of others from the natives of Sindh and give them rest of the desert . Thanks for your hospitality and opening your doors to us but we will take it from here Yeah i can see they will sit back and take it .

 

[My-Analogous]

Actually he also said about separate country, there are millions of people in Karachi ,MQM has still support there, I am not supporter of MQM but separate country is also possible and they will get support of secular people.

I am Urdu speaking but

i think all tuttoos of Altaf Hussain must stop deceiving us. We have seen enough of him for the last 3 decades.

Praises of this man will not work. Nothing is new here and we have seen MQM track record enough to know and decide who is right and who is wrong.

We have to move away from this traditional Pakistan politics. The idols we have created out of these people who we call leaders must be shattered. This idol worship is holding back the potential of our nation. These leaders have divided us, not united us.

A leader is not a leader who divides. Altaf Hussain is the leader of an ethnic party belonging to just one city. Thats his core despite how much you praise who he is. He is a phattoo sitting in London away from his people and away from the country he does politics in.

You are right about MQM, but i am a follower of Hazrat Ali (R.A) who said that don't think who is saying think what he is saying

 

[airmarshal]

You are right about MQM, but i am a follower of Hazrat Ali (R.A) who said that don't think who is saying think what he is saying

A true Muslim never trusts the same man twice. Once bitten, never dare attempt trust the same person.

It does not matter then what he is saying. It matters more what he has done.

 

[My-Analogous]

We need at-least 18 Provence based on 10 million population for each Provence and each Provence must have at least 10 Universities within 5 years and in 10 years it must have 25 universities. We need 5 big hospital in each Provence within 5 years and 10 Big and 100 small hospital in each within 10 years. We need 25,000 schools and 5,000 collages within five year and 60,000+ schools and 15,000+ collages in each Provence within 10 years, only then Pakistan will have compete with all developing nation. It is a dream of every Pakistani but our politician will lost huge amount of their lion share.