'They are Northeastern people not Bangladeshis', says Karnataka Home Minister

[UKBengali]

They do not have to if they don't wish to. This ethno-fascism is outright deplorable. They are a group with different culture, traditions and practices and as a democratic nation it is your responsibility as majority to not enforce your beliefs upon them.

Do you know what binds India's northeast together, a place your kind often deride as being less developed yet try to crawl in at the first opportunity. It is the government's policy of recognizing the uniqueness of each tribal groups and allowing them the opportunity to self govern themselves.

As a result, you have the autonomous councils for the Bodos, Dimasas and the Karbis among others. And that is precisely what differentiates Bangladesh from India.

Dude, in the UK every child is taught in English.
BD government is doing the right thing by having them taught bilingually.

Sorry, India has nothing to teach BD in how to deal with minorities.

 

[gslv mk3]

So how many Bangladeshis are in Karnatka according to UN?
Besides when did 3.1million became the accepted figure?

Is this all you could come up with ? UN published data on India, not on Karnataka.

Because we take you skilled guys and you take our worst lot

You don't take our most skilled guys, an average Indian graduate is more skilled than one of yours (your own UGC chairman admitted it). Do you want me to post WEF's ranking of BD in education & skill of workforce ?

Why India's performance is worse than North Korea's?
BBS does NK stats now?

So you admit that BBS' credibility is equal to that of DPRK ?

 

[Mage]

They do not have to if they don't wish to. This ethno-fascism is outright deplorable. They are a group with different culture, traditions and practices and as a democratic nation it is your responsibility as majority to not enforce your beliefs upon them.

If they are going to work in Bangladesh, if they are going to live in Bangladesh, then learning Bangla is a must. Do we cry foul because we have to learn English? It is for their own good. How will a Chakma doctor working in a hospital in Bangladesh communicate with patients if he doesn't know Bangla? How will a Chakma teacher(teaching outside Hill Tracts) communicate with his/her students?

a place your kind often deride as being less developed yet try to crawl in at the first opportunity.

Nice Meme...

As a result, you have the autonomous councils for the Bodos, Dimasas and the Karbis among others. And that is precisely what differentiates Bangladesh from India.

And yet you have Bodo militants ULFA and others. While our Hill tracts are largely peaceful. I get the difference.

You don't take our most skilled guys, an average Indian graduate is more skilled than one of yours

I wasn't talking about most skilled folks. But the folks we take from you are usually educated and has some technical skill....and you guys take our rickshaw pullers or beggars.

So you admit that BBS' credibility is equal to that of DPRK ?

I guess you didn't read the quote I attached with that post. My point is try to do better than NK before comparing with BD.

 

[comfortably_numb]

Dude, in the UK every child is taught in English.
BD government is doing the right thing by having them taught bilingually.

Sorry, India has nothing to teach BD in how to deal with minorities.

That narrative of yours fits perfectly with the ongoing attempts of Bengalification and Islamization of the highlanders. Also included are forced Bengali settlement on their Jhum cultivation lands and land-grabbing leaving them running from pillar to post for livelihood.

 

[gslv mk3]

I guess you didn't read the quote I attached with that post. My point is try to do better than NK before comparing with BD.

Most of the data available for DPRK are unreliable and are estimates. BTW it must be also noted that UN estimates undernourishment rate of 40% in DPRK.

No, India doesn't do that bad.

 

[Mage]

Though the violence has gown down it's far from peaceful. It's still listed as a travel warning. There's still conflict among tribal political groups, if it was still very peaceful the military should have left by now.

Give it a decade or two. It will be peaceful. Every country has a place like that. China in Tibet or Xinxiang...India in Kashmir etc. Military will leave eventually.

Most of the data available for DPRK are unreliable and are estimates. BTW it must be also noted that UN estimates undernourishment rate of 40% in DPRK.

No, India doesn't do that bad.

What about India doing worse than Mozambique or Burundi?

Look you are poor and we are poor. I wish someday you guys will stop looking down on us......I don't particularly have any hatred for India...In fact there are a few things I admire about it. But coming in pdf and seeing posts here sometimes, makes me think that people here live to belittle others.

 

[Flynn Swagmire]

Wow! I thought there are roads through which she can travel. Did they tell you there are no roads or airways connecting BD and India that her family have to pole vault through the fence?

Some logic

Lawzic?

They were illegally crossing into Bangladesh from suppa pawwa since 2012 rapestan, NOT the way around...

 

[comfortably_numb]

And yet you have Bodo militants ULFA and others. While our Hill tracts are largely peaceful. I get the difference.

We have learnt our lessons, I hope you do too. Militancy is on its last legs but that's besides the point. A nation must strive to safeguard the rights of its linguistic and religious minorities. And you have been found wanting on that regard.

 

[Chhatrapati]

Lawzic?

They were illegally crossing into Bangladesh from suppa pawwa since 2012 rapestan, NOT the way around...

@gslv mk3 Now look at this pothead

 

[Flynn Swagmire]

Go near India Bangladesh border, you might see them pole-vaulting over the fence...

Yep, I saw they pole vault into Bangladesh from your rapestan...

@gslv mk3 Now look at this pothead

Seems like you couldn't find a victim to rape.

An unfortunate day for you...

 

[comfortably_numb]

Though it's certainly important that they learn Bangla the problem is that being instructed in a language you don't know creates some trouble. Which is why it was a good step for the government to introduce their primary education in their native languages. They have to learn Bangla of course, it's the main language. What's wrong with being bilingual? How else will they communicate with the Bengali population? I certainly agree that they have a right to their traditions and cultures but refusing to learn Bangla? That's only going to make their situation the same.

As Bengali is obviously the official language they will certainly have to have some understanding of it. But you see, in matters of public employment and such the CHT folks will always be at a disadvantage unless some compromise is sought.

Best way forward in my opinion is to implement the agreed upon version of CHT Peace Accord in full as early as possible and granting them autonomy in the real sense of the term. Trust building measures in short, as they had to go through a lot.

Of course, the violent elements should be suitably dealt with.

 

[Mage]

We have learnt our lessons, I hope you do too. Militancy is on its last legs but that's besides the point. A nation must strive to safeguard the rights of its linguistic and religious minorities. And you have been found wanting on that regard.

Their rights are secured. They even enjoy more benefits than average citizens. They have quota in govt jobs. They also have quota in educational institutes as well. They are not hated and disliked in BD. Eventually assimilation is a good thing. That should happen sooner or later. And it should happen peacefully like a natural process. Bengali ethnicity has absorbed a lot of people and united them as one. Such is our land. It accepts everyone who wishes to be a part of it.

 

[24 Hours]

As Bengali is obviously the official language they will certainly have to have some understanding of it. But you see, in matters of public employment and such the CHT folks will always be at a disadvantage unless some compromise is sought.

Best way forward in my opinion is to implement the agreed upon version of CHT Peace Accord in full as early as possible and granting them autonomy in the real sense of the term. Trust building measures in short, as they had to go through a lot.

Of course, the violent elements should be suitably dealt with.

They do have quotas in government positions though. If anything their main problem is in the private sector, entrepreneurship of the Hill people is still poor. That needs to be worked on. I believe though with the language instruction in their native languages this will improve their situation and help them adapt to learning Bangla better. In many cases media is also a helpful tool. Children can become bilingual as early as 3 assuming they have a healthy access to both languages. Problem in this case is that many live in remote areas and aren't exposed to Bengali peoples on a regular basis.

I do agree with you in terms of enacting the accord, but it will take some time. And also depends on whether or not the military will follow through.

Give it a decade or two. It will be peaceful. Every country has a place like that. China in Tibet or Xinxiang...India in Kashmir etc. Military will leave eventually.

One can only hope.

 

[comfortably_numb]

Eventually assimilation is a good thing. That should happen sooner or later.

No, it is not. Even the mere thought of doing so would be a sin. You can still be together without impinging on each other rights.

You must be aware of the Bengali language movement in Assam's Barak valley in the early 60s when the state totally disregarded the bulk of Bengali population's concerns by declaring Assamese as the sole official language. People sacrificed their lives in protests and 19th may is commemorated as Bhasha Divas. Assamese government eventually backtracked.

You cannot expect people to forego their traditions in order to assimilate into the greater society without any repercussions.

 

[Black_cats]

Go near India Bangladesh border, you might see them pole-vaulting over the fence...



What is more believable...UN Vetted data or statements by a politician ?

If you say it is the latter, then there is little wonder why you gullible lots are fooled easily by BAL/SHW propaganda @SOUTHie



India does better than Bangladesh in HDI/GDP per capital and have less undernourished population...

Basically wherever BBS can't fudge their data easily..



Bangladeshis generally do menial jobs in India and contribute to the economy through hard work in exchange for meagre wages, whereas most Indians are gainfully employed in attractive jobs in Bangladesh, earning handsomely and remitting millions of dollars to India.

http://www.thedailystar.net/controlling-remittance-outflow-to-india-58831

Regarding your 3.2 million illegal Bangladeshi living in India data published by UN as some Indian cleverly inserted at the report. After that due to protest from Bangladesh UN removed it. UN does not publish any such data. UN published any such data recently? Not the 2013 data as that was withdrawn already.