There was such a sense of camaraderie between Indian and Pak posters

[SQ8]

Without Pakistan we still have the most critical northern border covered: Russia and North Korea. China and Russia form an independent block in terms of all economic activity.

If things get too tough we can simply retire behind our deterrence and live our life. Mountains, deserts and oceans separate us from our adversaries. Nobody can existentially threaten China right now, so our game isn't playing for survival, it is playing for power. If we lose it's not like we're going to get defeated and occupied.

But Pakistan? Your capital is a 5 hour drive from India across flat plains. Your game is survival. Who really needs who?

And you may notice that not once has a single Chinese poster said anything negative about Pakistan without massive provocation from ex-Pakistanis.

It is natural to retaliate to provocation.

If the game was for power then it would not require expansion and trade - China like all other nations is an animal that needs to grow its “food supply”. There is no argument on the miserable situation in Pakistan and the overall generous terms the Chinese offer on assistance, but this narrative of brotherhood is misplaced because it is only at the state level as a partnership. We all read the abuse on Islam from Chinese posters here and understand well where opinions stand. To think that somehow those opinions and ideals are forgotten when Pakistanis are concerned is foolish of Pakistanis in general.

We know where Indians stand too, and the deterrent stands there too. If the Chinese are happy to accuse the US of expansionism and conflict(which they do engage in) then they too sit on the horn of Djibouti and play their interests there. I’d rather call out sanctimonious positions on both sides regardless of echo chamber efforts by a known organized internet army.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Has a single Chinese poster ever made a single negative comment about Pakistan without massive provocation from ex-Pakistanis calling us wumao, bot, gloating about Chinese getting attacked by racists or trying to silence us?

And even the negative comments are very light. There are many negative aspects of Pakistan as admitted by Pakistanis themselves, but we don't even touch those because we feel it isn't our place to criticize Pakistani culture.

Anyone who frequents these pages is aware of this. Simple objective analysis makes this clear beyond doubt.

 

[lonelyman]

Foreigners in China also preserve their cultures and way of life , this doesn't mean they disrespect China. and is Xinjiang part of Pakistan? why whatever happens in Xinjiang means disrepect to Pakistan?

xingjiang per capital gdp near $9k now, wait another 10 years

 

[SQ8]

Foreigners in China also preserve their cultures and way of life , this doesn't mean they disrespect China. and is Xinjiang part of Pakistan? why whatever happens in Xinjiang means disrepect to Pakistan?

I did not know those foreigners abused law enforcement in China and got away with it.
Xinjiang became irrelevant when the abuse on muslims became prevalent.

 

[Trango Towers]

To explain it better...

India is a bitch, but she’s our bitch.

You are responsible for the bitch from now on. Looool

 

[lonelyman]

cool story bro.

the truth is that the majority of Chinese, at least before, did not hate or love India, they just don't care or talk about India, it's India which gets in front and says to China "hey look at me I'm your rival" while the Chinese would usually just ignore India because the only country they consider to be a rival is America.

I just went to check what kind of comments were posted on the India defence forum back in the beginning of last year about Covid in China, and while there were like 3 or 4 members who wished good health for the Chinese the majority were just celebrating and wishing death upon Chinese and Pakistanis here are some examples and these were in just the first 6 or 7 pages.

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the blurred words are mainly insults towards Chinese, Pakistanis, muslims. and that was well before the Galwan incident so you can't even use that as an excuse.
if you want Chinese to have sympathy towards India then go to youtube, I'm sure there you could find no less than 3 or 4 Chinese people expressing support to India which is about the same number you had.

the problem is not with the Chinese or the Pakistanis the problem is with you and your government, your idiot government filled the Indian people with hate because ever since dumb@ss Modi came to power his economic policies were a disaster so the only way he can get elected is through nationalism.

by the way those hateful posts were made in a thread in the China section called "Wuhan coronavirus thread" or something like that which they made back at that time to laugh at China, ironically these days in that thread the only thing they talk about is the situation in India.

Indians calling nuke China when this Covid started, do you imagine Chinese saying that?

pdf Indians snakes are as evil as their crazy godi media

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Good to see you back sir

I do browser here but much lesser due to work.

 

[SQ8]

Anyone who frequents these pages is aware of this. Simple objective analysis makes this clear beyond doubt.

If we are to warn members on being racist against Chinese and ban them, then the same applies to infractions from Chinese members.
In so far as me stating that the Chinese will always(like other nations) keep their interests and their point of view supreme even if it means screwing Pakistanis over, ready to leave PDF permanently like the whining Chinese poster who started this derailment - starting the next hour if unacceptable to admin.

Indians calling nuke China when this Covid started, do you imagine Chinese saying that?

pdf Indians snakes are as evil as their crazy godi media

They did, I stand on record that the Indians are in general a much more venomous bunch than either Chinese or Pakistanis.

 

[beijingwalker]

I did not know those foreigners abused law enforcement in China and got away with it.
Xinjiang became irrelevant when the abuse on muslims became prevalent.

Foreigners break Chinese laws very often, go to youtube search and find some, plenty of them, it's common issue in every country, unruly foreigners.

As for Xinjiang, it's part of China , whatever happens in Xinjiang is Chinese domestic affairs, does China believe what happens in Pakistan northeast is of China's business? Besides, Xinjiang enjoys argubly the highest standard of living, education, healthcare in the whole central and south Asia by a massive margin, you better think about how to make your own life better instead of worrying about theirs.

 

[SQ8]

Foreigners break Chinese laws very often, go to youtube search and find some, plenty of them, it's common issue in every country, unruly foreigners.

As for Xinjiang, it's part of China , whatever happens in Xinjiang is Chinese domestic affairs, does China believe what happens in Pakistan northeast is of China's business? Besides, Xinjiang enjoys argubly the highest standard of living, education, healthcare in the whole central and south Asia by a massive margin, you better think about how to make your own life better instead of worrying about theirs.

Unfortunately, we don’t think like the Chinese on this forum to turn a blind eye to evil - whether it happens in Pakistan, China or the US. Lets agree to disagree and move on

 

[beijingwalker]

Unfortunately, we don’t think like the Chinese on this forum to turn a blind eye to evil - whether it happens in Pakistan, China or the US. Lets agree to disagree and move on

Do you know why China can develop this fast and some countries can't? cause we only focus on ourselves and our sight has always been on improving our own country. Cause we know one can't help others while they have nothing themselves.

 

[SQ8]

Do you know why China can develop this fast and some countries can't? cause we only focus on ourselves and our sight has always been on improving our own country.

Yes - no doubt about it. Just don’t expect(or complain) everyone else to sit silent whenever you trample over others or commit human right violations to do it. Afterall the same dont stay silent with America does it or others.

 

[beijingwalker]

Yes - no doubt about it. Just don’t expect(or complain) everyone else to sit silent whenever you trample over others or commit human right violations to do it. Afterall the same dont stay silent with America does it or others.

So called human rights violation is the biggest farce created by the west, strictly speaking, every single country has human rights issues, as long as there are humans, there are human rights issues, the loudest mouths are often the worst human rights violators.
China's human rights perspective is very simple, to provide the people an increasing better life year on year.

 

[SQ8]

So called human rights violation is the biggest farce created by the west, strictly speaking, every single country has human rights issues, as long as there are humans, there are human rights issues, the loudest mouths are often the worst human rights violators.
China's human rights perspective is very simple, to provide the people an increasing better life year on year.

Yes - the west exaggerates in its propoganda war against China, just as they exaggerate Pakistani military atrocities in Bangladesh but there is truth to it to allow them to exaggerate it.

So long as there is that truth, no matter if it meant a group of guards at a Chinese “re-education” center raped a Xinjiang women and the west plays it as mass rapes - that one rape will still be a truth to talk on.

 

[beijingwalker]

Yes - the west exaggerates in its propoganda war against China, just as they exaggerate Pakistani military atrocities in Bangladesh but there is truth to it to allow them to exaggerate it.

So long as there is that truth, no matter if it meant a group of guards at a Chinese “re-education” center raped a Xinjiang women and the west plays it as mass rapes - that one rape will still be a truth to talk on.

China is one of the safest countries for women, if you like to learn more about raping, you chose the wrong spot, go to South Asia or the west could be a much better bet.