The Weakness of Xi Jinping - How Hubris and Paranoia Threaten China’s Future

The Weakness of Xi Jinping

Hubris and paranoia threaten China’s future.

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@Paul2
What do you think will happen in the next months, Xi will take all?

 

[etylo]

Anti-corruption is an extremely difficult task even Deng dared not to touch it. It needs courage and moral strength to fulfil this task. Few politician around the world and through the history made the feat Xi did. Anti-corruption is not a single event. It paved way for the following years China development. You definitely have no idea how lucky China was for it was Xi, not other leader like Bo Xilai ruled China in the second decade of 21th century.

If pretentious and immoral Bo Xilia ever got to be the top leader of china, china would be totally screwed and finnished today no doubt to the wishes of the west.

 

[MH.Yang]

Then maybe a PLA general should come in and take this job

"党指挥枪".
The Chinese Constitution stipulates that the Central Military Commission of the Communist Party of China controls the command of the PLA. Any general who wants to seize the command of PLA is tantamount to treason.

 

[beijingwalker]

If pretentious and immoral Bo Xilia ever got to be the top leader of china, china would be totally screwed and finnished today no doubt to the wishes of the west.

Bo xilai is very hardworking and not very corrupted comparing to his peers, I believe he would make a good leader, his downfall was mainly due to communist party's power struggle.

 

[etylo]

When you think that a good leader is as important as a good system, you have wandered to the edge of an abyss called "personality cult". Your thoughts are closer to the Korean people than to the Chinese people.

The Chinese civilization and Confucian system have always believed in "民为贵，社稷次之，君为轻" for thousands of years, which means that the people are the most important, the social system is the second, and the emperor is the least important.

In the current situation, the wisdom and hard-working Chinese people are the most important. The social system established by CCP ranks second, and our supreme leader happens to be the least important.

Let us not think that it is wrong for a good leader to sacrifice his political life for a good system. The Chinese civilization and Confucian system have always believes that "受国之垢,是谓社稷主.受国不祥,是为天下王." means to bear the humiliation of the country and the people and sacrifice for the country and the people, which is the duty of an emperor. In our times, it is Xi's duty to sacrifice his political life for the people and the country.


Please read my words carefully:"rich countries are not necessarily incorruptible countries, but a incorruptible country must be a rich country."

The USA is the kind of country that I said is rich but not incorruptible.

Its far fetched to compare china today to north korea in any way, NK worship Kim as its semi-god, maybe some way similiar to Mao at his times.

You mixed up what i am saying. I am talking about that different leaders, good vs bad, also matter a lot in a country, but not belittling the preceding overall importance of the people and system of the country.

 

[beijingwalker]

Deng Xiaoping's life was ruined by "personality cult". I understand why he hates "personality cult" so much. But I don't understand why Deng Xiaoping wanted to preserve Mao Zedong's body forever, instead of cremating it according to Mao Zedong's last wish.

This has led to this embarrassing situation. The leader with the second highest reputation in CCP history has preserved the body of the leader with the first highest reputation. Who among their descendants will have enough prestige and rights to move this corpse now?

Mao's body should be cremated and moved to his hometown Shaoshan. It's a humiliation to himself to keep him as a mummy in Beijing.

 

[etylo]

Bo xilai is very hardworking and not very corrupted comparing to his peers, I believe he would make a good leader, his downfall was mainly due to communist party's power struggle.

He is extreme, wanted to bring back the "red theme" of Maos time and the Cultural revolution. At least, his idea had china on the wrong path.

 

[JSCh]

If you go absolutely by the principle of "if it ain't broken, don't fix it", then there will never be the need of reform, if things is working somewhat ok.

Furthermore, whether China past leadership succession system is ok or not is really subjective. But I think it is hard for anyone to say that it is perfect and would never need reform.

Setting a hard term limits has pros and cons. The main pro that is most brandish about is curbing of power accumulation and stagnation. But it is not always so. I believe in history, there are often cases that goes like this, a competent leader has rule wisely for quite sometimes, and had brought about a golden era, but they stay (or live as in emperor) for too long, and it became an entrench interest with abuse plus corruption and resistance to change. But how long is too long is hard to determine, I don't think 15 years is really that long.

But that is really for the NPC to decide. Ultimately, it really depends on whether you trust the Chinese system and its representatives. That they would be wise enough to choose correctly and not be controlled and manipulated. That dismiss the "emperor for life" hyperbole, because Xi or anyone else could never has the level of political clout as Mao, and the Chinese people today or in the future is just not the same as fifty years ago to support anything similar again, then there is no need to set an artificial term limit for the leader.

 

[kankan326]

If pretentious and immoral Bo Xilia ever got to be the top leader of china, china would be totally screwed and finnished today no doubt to the wishes of the west.

Many years ago I read an article boasting what a genius Bo's son Bo Guagua is. It's disgusting. But I don't think Bo would finish China if he becomes the leader. He would be another Jiang or Hu. At least China has collective leadership. The biggest problem if Bo becomes the leader would be China will be in much unfavorable situation when facing US attacks.

In any human group, people that have high level moral are alway scarce. Besides Xi, another CCP leader that have high moral level is 乔石.

 

[MH.Yang]

If pretentious and immoral Bo Xilia ever got to be the top leader of china, china would be totally screwed and finnished today no doubt to the wishes of the west.

Bo Xilai is not corrupt, and like Xi, he is also an extremely anti-corruption official.

When he was Secretary of the Guangdong provincial Party committee and Secretary of the Chongqing municipal Party committee, he once set off an anti-corruption storm in the local area. His anti-corruption action even predates Xi. This is also why I say that it is a historical necessity for China to enter the "anti-corruption era".

Bo's failure was due to political struggle.

Bo Xilai failed because he was a far left official, who was more sedentary than Xi's thoughts. When he was Secretary of the Chongqing municipal Party committee, Chongqing TV broadcast plays of the Mao Zedong era every day. Every day, he and Wang Yang, the CCP's rightist leader, scold each other in the newspaper. What he did was really ugly and seriously damaged the unity and tacit understanding between the left and the right within the CCP. In the end, Premier Wen Jiabao at that time forcibly kicked him down.

BTW: After Bo Xilai's failure, Wen Jiabao did his best to collect evidence of his crimes. However, in the end, only 20 million yuan (2.8 million US dollars) of his assets were found, and the source was unknown. If a top Chinese official embezzles, will he only have so little money?

 

[StraightEdge]

Who are the most likely candidates after Xi?

 

[MH.Yang]

He is extreme, wanted to bring back the "red theme" of Maos time and the Cultural revolution. At least, his idea had china on the wrong path.

Bo Xilai and Xi actually belong to the same faction. It's just that Xi is leftist and Bo Xilai is extreme leftist. The CCP's right wing can tolerate the ruling of a leftist like Xi, but they can't tolerate the ruling of a madman like Bo Xilai. Just as the Democratic Party can tolerate losing to DeSantis, it cannot tolerate losing to trump.

Bo Xilai swore at Wang Yang in the newspaper every day. This behavior will destroy the unity within CCP sooner or later, just like trump did in the United States.

Another participant, Wang Yang, was also punished. In fact, Wang Yang should be the premier in 2012, not Li Keqiang.

 

[etylo]

Bo Xilai is not corrupt, and like Xi, he is also an extremely anti-corruption official.

When he was Secretary of the Guangdong provincial Party committee and Secretary of the Chongqing municipal Party committee, he once set off an anti-corruption storm in the local area. His anti-corruption action even predates Xi. This is also why I say that it is a historical necessity for China to enter the "anti-corruption era".

Bo's failure was due to political struggle.

Bo Xilai failed because he was a far left official, who was more sedentary than Xi's thoughts. When he was Secretary of the Chongqing municipal Party committee, Chongqing TV broadcast plays of the Mao Zedong era every day. Every day, he and Wang Yang, the CCP's rightist leader, scold each other in the newspaper. What he did was really ugly and seriously damaged the unity and tacit understanding between the left and the right within the CCP. In the end, Premier Wen Jiabao at that time forcibly kicked him down.

BTW: After Bo Xilai's failure, Wen Jiabao did his best to collect evidence of his crimes. However, in the end, only 20 million yuan (2.8 million US dollars) of his assets were found, and the source was unknown. If a top Chinese official embezzles, will he only have so little money?

He was also so much rumoured to be in alliance with security chief Zhou Yong Kang who commanded the military police to have a coup against Xi as the successor to Hu. He wanted to bring back the "red theme" Maos time and the cultural revolution, that would set china on a wrong path.

 

[MH.Yang]

Who are the most likely candidates after Xi?

According to the CCP's promotion rules, Xi and Li's successors must be born after 1959 and before 1968.

There are now four candidates in the CCP party. Xi and Li's successors will be determined from these four candidates in October this year.

Hu Chunhua - Wikipedia

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Ding Xuexiang - Wikipedia

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Chen Min'er - Wikipedia

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Li Qiang - Wikipedia

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He was also so much rumoured to be in alliance with security chief Zhou Yong Kang who commanded the military police to have a coup against Xi as the successor to Hu. He wanted to bring back the "red theme" Maos time and the cultural revolution, that would set china on a wrong path.

This should be a rumor. Neither of them is even a member of the Central Military Commission.

I don't believe they have the ability to launch a coup. It is also impossible for those policemen to follow their orders to attack the State Department.

Many years ago I read an article boasting what a genius Bo's son Bo Guagua is. It's disgusting. But I don't think Bo would finish China if he becomes the leader. He would be another Jiang or Hu. At least China has collective leadership. The biggest problem if Bo becomes the leader would be China will be in much unfavorable situation when facing US attacks.

In any human group, people that have high level moral are alway scarce. Besides Xi, another CCP leader that have high moral level is 乔石.

For the most senior leader, you should ask for his ability and responsibility, not morality. Politicians have no morals.

 

[casual]

For the most senior leader, you should ask for his ability and responsibility, not morality. Politicians have no morals.

Again, stop talking nonsense. Morality is one of the most important traits of a politician. China cannot afford anymore corrupt politicians.

 

[etylo]

Many years ago I read an article boasting what a genius Bo's son Bo Guagua is. It's disgusting. But I don't think Bo would finish China if he becomes the leader. He would be another Jiang or Hu. At least China has collective leadership. The biggest problem if Bo becomes the leader would be China will be in much unfavorable situation when facing US attacks.

In any human group, people that have high level moral are alway scarce. Besides Xi, another CCP leader that have high moral level is 乔石.

Bo was corrupt and constantly seeking the approval of western authorities such as the queen of britain and henry kissenger. I saw Bo on TV visting the UK at a meeting with the British queen, he bowed down hard his head to the queen, that is totally indignified and shame for the chinese goverment, that tells Bo was ready to accept the royalties of the west are indeed noblier and superior than chinese leaders or officials. He once also got western political figure like kissenger to lavishly praise him as the next leader of china on TV or maybe he just more suited westerners likes. His family butler is a British white man also and they are totally enmeshed together, this tells how corrupt Bo was that his family had so much reverence for everything western esp british. His son also went to britain to study.

Its good that China didnt choose him as the countrys leader, otherwise no one can predict what shame and disaster he will bring for the country.