The war on Iran begins in Syria

[Avicenna]

If IRI is so strong, then why so much talk of getting Russia involved? It's strange that so many on this thread are advocating that Russia ought to up her game. Why would they? What's in it for them? They don't consider IRI a partner or an ally, rather a pawn to be traded at will in return for some concession from the west. Russia does not even consider IRI a client state.
IRI's isolation is glaringly obvious. She has no friends to come to her aid. BTW, does anyone recall if these attacks were condemned by any country? After all a sovereign country's airspace was violated and people killed.
And for those that say Israel this, Israel that... she is just protecting herself, like any other self respecting country.

Whats with the Iran hate?

 

[rambro]

Faking transponder + use the US air route

That explains it

 

[Trango Towers]

It’s pathetic to see Muslims supporting these yahoodis.. you should be ashamed of yourself. No wonder Muslims are in such a state. Keeping their Imaan for sale. Lanat on these ppl from my side.

Muslims don't...
Munafics who's mother's laid under jews do

 

[WordsMatter]

Whats with the Iran hate?

No hate... just a different take on events. I just don't subscribe to the notion that IRI has many options. Especially at this juncture when multitude of forces are aligning against her (Israel, the Gulf monarchies, North African Arabs, US, Europe). Just being realistic, that' all.

 

[zartosht]

No hate... just a different take on events. I just don't subscribe to the notion that IRI has many options. Especially at this juncture when multitude of forces are aligning against her (Israel, the Gulf monarchies, North African Arabs, US, Europe). Just being realistic, that' all.

nanat mire mide be een amrikayiya.... dalil nemishe eenghad kooneshono belisi. tokhe haroom. Hata koon lisam neesti. Ye trolle security guarde badbakhti. ke tanhi sargarmit to zendegi tohin kardan be irane. Hata Zionist ha ham eenghad be nefrat be iran tohin nemikonan.


khak to sare nane jendat ke ye tokhme haroomi mesle toro lengasho hava kard dad beeroon.

 

[Rukarl]

nanat mire mide be een amrikayiya.... dalil nemishe eenghad kooneshono belisi. tokhe haroom. Hata koon lisam neesti. Ye trolle security guarde badbakhti. ke tanhi sargarmit to zendegi tohin kardan be irane. Hata Zionist ha ham eenghad be nefrat be iran tohin nemikonan.


khak to sare nane jendat ke ye tokhme haroomi mesle toro lengasho hava kard dad beeroon.

Israel blew up your soldiers brains in Syria and all you can do is to write insults. Haha. May your brains continue getting paash'd against the divar forever.

Israel knows how to deal with you guys lol.

 

[Super Falcon]

Supporting israel against iran no matter what iran doing we can sort these issues out but supporting yahodis makes you ysahodi and yahodi is considered enemies of islam

 

[SALMAN F]

The problem is Lieberman. Doesn't he have some ties to Putin?

Perhaps the Russians won't be so keen to contain Israeli/US aggression?

 

[Avicenna]

WTF?

 

[TheImmortal]

Faking transponder + use the US air route

That explains it

Doesn’t explain why Syria and Iran failed to intercept the missiles.

In war your enemy will try to deceive and deceit you. If Iran’s air defense forces expect the enemy to follow textbook penetration tactics that they learned in military academy they are going to get their *** handed to them in a major conflict

 

[rambro]

Doesn’t explain why Syria and Iran failed to intercept the missiles.

In war your enemy will try to deceive and deceit you. If Iran’s air defense forces expect the enemy to follow textbook penetration tactics that they learned in military academy they are going to get their *** handed to them in a major conflict

Most air defenses deployed are for russians.

Russians have an agreement not to shoot at US airplanes.

 

[TheImmortal]

Most air defenses deployed are for russians.

Russians have an agreement not to shoot at US airplanes.

Again Read what I wrote.

First of all Syria has its own air defense and some indications are saying Iran does as well (TOR systems).

So again they could have shot at the incoming MISSILES and prevented/negated damage to the military sites.

I am not sure they even detected the missiles because eastern Syria does not have a lot of radar spots. The missiles, by some indications were bunker buster bombs or glide bombs, all of which should have been detected by radar after they were released and moving towards Homs & Hama.

 

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• Jerusalem Post
  
• Middle East

REPORT: IRAN PLANNING TO LAUNCH A BARRAGE OF MISSILES AGAINST ISRAEL
Military analyst Roni Daniel said the intelligence suggested Iran would use Shiite militias already deployed in Syria, along with experts from Hezbollah.
BY JPOST.COM STAFF, ANNA AHRONHEIM

MAY 6, 2018 20:26

1 minute read.

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  Netanyahu: Israel must keep Iran from Syria even if it means a 'struggle'

A still image taken from footage shot on June 18, 2017 and broadcast on Iranian Television IRINN, purports to show missiles being fired from Iran into eastern Syria.. (photo credit: IRINN VIA REUTERS TV)


Iran is preparing a barrage of missiles to launch against Israeli military positions from Syrian territory, Hebrew media reported Sunday, citing defense officials.

Iran plans to avenge alleged Israeli strikes on its bases in Syria, Ma'ariv defense analyst Alon Ben David said, by targeting military targets in northern Israel.


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As of now, Israel isn't "on the eve of war against Iran," he said, "but the Iranians do want revenge for their losses.”

Iran plans to use Shiite militias already deployed in Syria along with experts from Hezbollah, according to Channel 2 News military analyst Roni Daniel. The proxies would be overseen by general Qasem Soleimani, commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps abroad.

Tensions have risen dramatically between the two arch-enemies following the infiltration of a Iranian drone into northern Israel, which the IDF says was armed and on a sabotage attack mission against the Jewish State.

Israel is said to have been preparing for a direct attack from Iran’s Revolutionary Guard Corps since mid-April in response to a strike allegedly carried out by the Jewish state against an Iranian operated airbase in Syria which killed seven IRGC soldiers.

A senior IDF official confirmed to The New York Times in late April that Israel was behind the attack, stating that the February incident “opened a new period” between the Jewish state and the Islamic Republic.

Following the strike, Ali Akbar Velayati, the top aid to Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei, warned Israel “should be waiting for a powerful response” to the strike on the airfield, saying "it will not remain unanswered.”

Defense officials warn of impending Iranian missile strike on northern Israel
TV reports say Tehran looking to retaliate for Israeli raids in Syria without causing all-out war, likely with rockets at IDF bases rather than civilian targets
By JUDAH ARI GROSS Today, 9:08 pm 2

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  Iranian military trucks carry surface-to-air missiles during a parade on the occasion of the country's Army Day, on April 18, 2017, in Tehran. (AFP Photo/Atta Kenare)
  
  
  Iran is planning to retaliate for recent deadly airstrikes in Syria attributed to the Jewish state by having its proxies fire missiles at military targets in northern Israel sometime in the near future, defense officials warned on Sunday.
  
  Tehran vowed revenge after the T-4 army base in Syria was struck in an air raid on April 9, killing at least seven members of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps. The strike was widely attributed to Israel, though Jerusalem refused to comment on it. Late last month, a second strike, allegedly conducted by Israel, against an Iranian-controlled base in northern Syria was said to have killed more than two dozen Iranian soldiers.
  
  On Sunday, all of Israel’s nightly news broadcasts reported that the Israeli military and intelligence services had identified preliminary efforts by Iran in Syria to carry out its reprisal, using its IRGC and local Shiite militias to launch a barrage of precision-guided missiles, likely at Israeli military targets in the north.
  
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  The Iran-backed Hezbollah terrorist group was also said to be involved in the preparations for the potential barrage, though to a lesser extent.
  
  The understanding in the defense services is that Iran is looking to conduct its retaliation in such a way as to avoid full-fledged war with Israel, and will therefore likely not target civilian locations, according to the reports, which did not attribute the information to any specific source.
  
  No special instructions were given to residents of northern Israel. Indeed, the heads of local councils in the north have reportedly been told to tell citizens not to take any specific precautions and to go about their daily lives as usual.
  
  Israel was working to prevent or counter such an attack, but was also preparing for the possibility that the Iranians “succeed in hitting a base in the north with missiles,” Channel 10 reported. The Israel Defense Forces was threatening to hit all Iranian targets in Syria if Tehran launched an attack on Israeli territory, the TV report said.
  
  Seeking Russian pressure on Iran, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is set to present the information in Tehran’s preparations to strike Israel to Russian President Vladimir Putin during their meeting Wednesday in Moscow, the reports said.
  
  Earlier on Sunday, Netanyahu said that while Israel is not interested in a military escalation with Iran, if there has to be a fight, he would prefer it be now, rather than later.
  
  “We are determined to block the Iranian entrenchment, even at the cost of confrontation,” Netanyahu said at the start of the weekly cabinet meeting. “We don’t want an escalation, but we are prepared for every scenario. We don’t want confrontation, but if there needs to be one, it is better now than later.”
  
  The prime minister also suggested Iran could directly launch a strike on Israeli territory.
  
  “In recent months, the Iranian Revolutionary Guards transferred to Syria advanced weaponry in order to attack us both on the battlefield and the home front, including weaponized UAVs, ground-to-ground missiles and Iranian anti-aircraft batteries that would threaten air force jets,” he said.
  
  Sunday night’s warning about Iran’s plans to attack, as disseminated on the TV news broadcasts, appeared to constitute an attempt by Israel to show the Iranians that it was aware of their plans and was prepared to respond if they went through with the reprisal.
  
  A mainstay of Iran’s defense strategy is the use of proxies to conduct its bidding across the Middle East — the Houthis in Yemen, Hezbollah in Lebanon, Shiite militias in Syria and Iraq, as well as the Palestinian Islamic Jihad and Hamas in the Gaza Strip and West Bank. This is seen as an effort to limit Iranian casualties and keep any fighting limited to outside the Islamic Republic.
  
  Last month, Defense Minister Avigdor Liberman said Israel was prepared to strike the Iranian homeland. “If they attack Tel Aviv, we will strike Tehran,” he said.
  
  The unnamed defense officials on Sunday did not specify when the Iranian attack was expected to take place.
  
  Last month, a member of the coalition supporting Iran’s ally, Syrian dictator Bashar Assad, told The New York Times that the reprisal would likely not come before the Lebanese parliamentary elections, which began on Sunday.
  
  Further stoking tensions, this week US President Donald Trump is expected to determine the fate of the Iran nuclear accord, which he has repeatedly threatened to leave. On Sunday, French President Emmanuel Macron warned that if America abandoned the Iran deal, it could lead to a war.
  
  Earlier on Sunday evening, Israel’s security cabinet held a three-and-a-half-hour session to discuss recent developments in the region, including the tensions with Iran in Syria and the upcoming decision by Trump regarding the nuclear deal.
  
  Sunday’s warning was not the first intimation by Israeli defense officials of a potentially imminent retaliatory attack by Iran. Shortly before Israel’s Independence Day, the military prepared for the possibility of a direct attack from the IRGC’s air force.
  
  The Times of Israel learned at the time that Israel’s defense establishment believed the Iranian revenge attack would likely be carried out with surface-to-surface missiles or armed drones. Others have speculated that an Iranian retaliation could come in the form of a cyber attack.
  
  
  
  
  A map of Syria, provided to Israeli media, shows the approximate locations of five bases that Israel believes to be controlled by Iran.
  In an apparent effort at deterrence, the IDF provided Israeli media with a map showing five Iranian-controlled bases in Syria that would likely constitute potential targets for an Israeli response, should Iran carry out any kind of attack. Satellite photographs of bases were also provided.
  
  Those were Damascus International Airport, through which Iranian transport planes bring in weapons and military gear; the Sayqal air base; the T-4 air base; an airfield near Aleppo; and a base in Deir Ezzor, which was recaptured from the Islamic State terror group by the regime last year.
  
  Israeli intelligence believes the sites are used by Iran for its missions in Syria, as well as to transport weapons to its proxies in the region, including Hezbollah.
  
  Israel believes Iran’s retaliatory effort is being led by Major General Qassem Soleimani, the head of the IRGC’s Quds Force, which operates around the world, with assistance from the head of the IRGC air corps, Brig. Gen. Amir Ali Hajizadeh; the head of its surface-to-surface missile program; Col. Mahmoud Bakri Katrem Abadi; and the head of its air defense operations, Ali Akhbar Tzeidoun.
  
  
  
  
  The head of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps’ Air Force Brig. Gen. Amir Ali Hajizadeh. (Fars news)
  Soleimani has repeatedly warned Israel, and threatened to “wipe out the Zionist entity” in February over the assassination of a Hezbollah leader, which has been attributed to the Mossad and America’s CIA.
  
  Iran has access to a variety of surface-to-surface missiles, from short-range Fajr-5 rockets to medium-range Fateh 110 missiles, which have a range of approximately 300 kilometers (190 miles), to long-range Shehab ballistic missiles capable of hitting targets over 1,300 kilometers (800 miles) away.
  
  To counter those threats, Israel has a multi-tiered missile defense system consisting of the Iron Dome for short-range rockets and mortar shells, the David’s Sling for medium-range missiles, and the Arrow for long-range ballistic missiles.
  
  Israel sees Iran, which has vowed to destroy the Jewish state, as its main enemy in the region. Israeli officials have repeatedly stated that Israel will not allow Iran to entrench itself in Syria, marking it as a “red line” that it will fight militarily if necessary.
  

 

[TheImmortal]

Report: Israel, Iran engage in indirect negotiations over Syria fighting | The Jerusalem post
Israel and Iran engaged over the weekend in indirect negotiations in Jordan regarding fighting in southwestern Syria, according to a Saudi-owned website.

According to the Elaph website, the Iranians pledged not to participate in expected battles in southwestern Syria between President Bashar Assad’s forces and rebel groups, and Israel has made it clear that it will not intervene in the battles in the tri-border area, as long as Hezbollah and the Iranian-backed Shi’ite militias are not involved.

The unconfirmed report said the negotiations were conducted last weekend between Iran’s ambassador to Jordan, who was in one hotel room in Amman with Iranian security personnel, while in the next room there were senior Israeli security officials, including the deputy head of the Mossad. The report said a Jordanian mediator carried messages between the sides.

Elaph sources said that "the talks with the Israelis were related to fighting in Syria and the nearing campaign in southern Syria, particularly in Dera'a and Kuneitra."

Furthermore, they said that Israel made clear to the Iranians not to become involved in fighting close to the Israel-Syria ceasefire lines in the Golan and the Israel-Jordan border. One participant of the talks said that "the sides discussed this issue with the Israelis, and arrived at a quick agreement that even surprised the Israeli representatives."

Iran’s ambassador to Jordan, Dr. Mostafa Moslehzadeh, reportedly received instructions from senior officials to conduct the negotiations with Israel in Amman.

In recent days, Israel and Iran are said to have passed a large number of messages via Jordan regarding the situation in Syria. Israel has warned Iran of the possibility of conflict should Tehran send its troops and Hezbollah militants to southern Syria in order to participate in the fighting there. Jordan also passed the messages to Syrian and Russian officials.

Elaph sources said Iran understood its heavy losses in Syria resulting from Israeli attacks in the country. For this reason, Iran may have been willing to agree not to participate in battles in southern Syria, on the condition that Israel will not participate at all in combat in the region.

Israel's peace treaty with Jordan includes an Israeli umbrella of defense, which provides for Israeli military action should Jordan be threatened.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.jpos...t-negotiations-over-Syria-fighting-558519/amp

 

[OldTwilight]

the only thing that matter for current IRI Politicians, is "staying in power" ...
All of their past action just strengthen Israel Position in region ... back then Israel have to worry about Full might of Arab Armies with thousands of tanks and Aircraft and Hundred thousands of solders in region , now , the only thing they should worry about is just 4-5 thousands Hezbollah fighters with some rockets ...