The War in Kurram

[muse]

Troubles in Kurram have been discussed - check out the "Something to think about" thread on this board

http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakistans-war/28907-something-think-about.html

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Troubles in Kurram have been discussed - check out the "Something to think about" thread on this board

http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakistans-war/28907-something-think-about.html

Tis what happens when too few mods around .... completely missed that thread.

merging.

 

[Conscientious objector]

I would like to clear one thing to everybody.Every terrorist even in Pakistan,Afghanistan or Iraq ,they are the worst enemy of Shia. because of their wahabi background.

Please do not try to portray the shia as totally innocent victims in all this.The "Mahdi" army's atrocities against sunnis in Iraq is well documented by neutral sources.Many government officials have also been murdered by shia terrorists throughout Pakistan.

 

[Faruqi]

Please do not try to portray the shia as totally innocent victims in all this.The "Mahdi" army's atrocities against sunnis in Iraq is well documented by neutral sources.Many government officials have also been murdered by shia terrorists throughout Pakistan.

Forget the Mahdis, let's just discuss the situation in Pakistan, where the Taliban seem to be trying to exterminate the Turris. The army needs to also concentrate on the other areas of Pakistan other than the Waziristan area. If the enemy is not checked in places such as Kurram before launching the major op in S. Waziristan, the Taliban could potentially shift to new areas. I think what is needed is a large increase in the troop numbers in that area and a garrison in Parachinar, to atleast show the Turri tribesmen that they aren't along in their struggle. The Turris can be a major force in the fight against the Taliban and with the army's help, could turn this situation upside down against the Taliban.

 

[Conscientious objector]

Forget the Mahdis, let's just discuss the situation in Pakistan,

I didn't bring up the issue of Iraq,maybe you should ask whoever did to "Forget the Mahdis"

The Turris can be a major force in the fight against the Taliban and with the army's help, could turn this situation upside down against the Taliban.

That would be a very bad move,If the ahlus sunnah become convinced that that the shia are attacking and killing sunnis be they Taliban or anyone else you could have a potentially explosive situation on your hands.

Your idea would only add to sectarian violence and a lot of those who are not involved in this conflict would become involved on sectarian grounds.

 

[seekers]

Please do not try to portray the shia as totally innocent victims in all this.The "Mahdi" army's atrocities against sunnis in Iraq is well documented by neutral sources.Many government officials have also been murdered by shia terrorists throughout Pakistan.

Mahdi Army is just one organization ,do you think this is enough against Al-qaeda,taliban,lashkaray jhangvi,lashkar taiyba,sipah sahaba .....All of these org. target shia in every part of world.
No shia organization involve in Killing of any Sunni.
Pls. insight the fact and collect the complete statistic, How many Shia person has been target by wahabi org. and how many sunni has been targeted by Shia org.

Reality would speak itself .

MOD. has warned just two pictures of savageness of wahabis against Shia.Their are thousand of such Pictures how can people hide them.
Nation is paying for their silence over this terrorism in country for last 25 years.

 

[seekers]

In interview with suicide bomber, he said "we are fighting jihad with munafqein pakistan army"
unfortunately , nation still not decide whom with Pakistan Army is fighting.
Please first clear our mind.
when someone says that allow Turis to fight against them,people object this with secretarial act.

 

[fawwaxs]

Curfew in several areas: 36 held after Kurram killings

PARACHINAR / ISLAMABAD: Charkhel and adjacent localities on Thall-Parachinar Road were placed under curfew on Sunday and 36 suspects were picked up during a crackdown launched after an attack on a convoy of buses a day earlier killed 18 passengers in Kurram Agency.

Security forces were searching for the seven passengers who were kidnapped by the attackers.

Sources said that political authorities combed Charkhel, Manduri, Ahmadi Shama and other localities and arrested at least 36 suspects.

These areas were placed under curfew after the convoy came under attack on Saturday.

In Islamabad, a group of elders from Kurram Agency held a meeting on Sunday and said the government had failed to ensure security on the Parachinar-Peshawar Road.

The meeting expressed anger over the fact that the militants were able to attack the convoy though it was being escorted by security personnel.

The elders said that the governor of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province, political agent of Kurram Agency, commandant Kurram militia and MNA Munir Orakzai were responsible for the tragedy and called upon the president and the prime minister to take action against them.

They said the Parachinar-Peshawar Road had been lying closed for three years, which serves to prove that the government has failed to ensure security on the route.

The elders said they had no representation at any forum to take up the problem with the government, adding that even the MNA of the area, Munir Orakzai, was reluctant to raise his voice against the killing of innocent people in terrorist attacks.

The meeting appealed to the Chief Justice of Pakistan, Justice Iftikhar Mohammad Chaudhry, to take suo motu notice of the situation.

They said that Army Chief General Ashfaq Parvez Kiani during a visit to Parachinar recently had assured the people that they would be provided safe travelling facilities. However, they regretted, the promise remains to be fulfilled.

Interior Minister Rehman Malik held several meetings with the people of the area and assured them that the road would be made safe but to no avail, the meeting was informed.

About a week ago, the elders said, Kurram Militia commandant Colonel Tauseef Ahmad announced on a TV channel that the area was safe and the road would be opened.


They urged the government to take action against these officials and pay compensation to relatives of those killed in the attack.

Those who attended the meeting included former MNAs Syed Munir Said Mian and Dr Syed Javed Hussain, Air Marshal (retd) Syed Qaisar Hussain, Ali Hasan Tori and Shabir Hussain Sajidi.

 

[pakomar]

if still GOP of Pakistan waste time on judging these terrorist then we will see more of these stuff.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Your idea would only add to sectarian violence and a lot of those who are not involved in this conflict would become involved on sectarian grounds.

Please give the sectarian hatred a rest
It’s a Pakistani defence forum
anyone who is an enemy of Pakistani state & works against the interests and security of the country should be punished whether he is a glorified wahabi mullah or an Shia Ayatullah in case of Pakistan sadly its the former.

what do you think Laskher Jhagvi & Sipah Sahabah are doing? they are simply continuing their work that they have been doing for decade they just put a Punjabi taliban badge on their atrocities

this war against TTP has gone beyond Wahabi vs Shia and wahabi vs Ahmedi and wahabi vs Sunni. The people of Pakistan are facing a fitna of faceless butchers who wont wait to see if you are saying your prayers with cross arms or open arms.

All the sectarian terrorists have come under the umbrella of Al Qaida & TTP so this is nothing new my dear they are very much active and involved.

it is the hypocrisy of people that they look away when religious & sectarian minorities are targeted and when these butchers target everyone indiscriminately then blackwater and Zionists are blamed

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Mahdi Army is just one organization ,do you think this is enough against Al-qaeda,taliban,lashkaray jhangvi,lashkar taiyba,sipah sahaba .....All of these org. target shia in every part of world.
No shia organization involve in Killing of any Sunni.
Pls. insight the fact and collect the complete statistic, How many Shia person has been target by wahabi org. and how many sunni has been targeted by Shia org.

Reality would speak itself .

MOD. has warned just two pictures of savageness of wahabis against Shia.Their are thousand of such Pictures how can people hide them.
Nation is paying for their silence over this terrorism in country for last 25 years.

lets stay on topic please

we got our own background to worry about. I think people of Iraq & Afhganistan can look after themselves

it is true that the core of TTP is made up of all Anti Shia specialist organisations but that is the past now
they are brave now & wont stop from killing everyone regardless of the faith or religion.

 

[Xeeshan]

this war against TTP has gone beyond Wahabi vs Shia and wahabi vs Ahmedi and wahabi vs Sunni. The people of Pakistan are facing a fitna of faceless butchers who wont wait to see if you are saying your prayers with cross arms or open arms.

It is important for everyone to remember that the family is the environment in which people learn to build relationships with the people closest to them. But very often at very early age, children feel isolation and a lack of parental love. Also sometimes parents are raising conflicting demands towards their children or a child has suffered some sort of abuse within the family. These are some of the main reasons for the origin of Aggression.