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The USA has classed MQM as a "Tier 3 terrorist" organization

Bhai think Tank kuch research app bhi kar liya kare, read all above post it's all his case and summary, it's in court and not USA govt put mqm in tier 3.

its futile to argue with this guy since he thinks from his back hole than his head and is biased
 
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its futile to argue with this guy since he thinks from his back hole than his head and is biased
No need to insult someone, negative propaganda never stop they come again and again bring new dramas just ignore them and answer them back when you have a solid thing to put. Btw if this is real image how big news it is lol, no media even give a sec for this rubbish.
 
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where has US state department put MQM under the list of terrorist organisation?

Foreign Terrorist Organizations
In a court case in March 2014 in Pennsylvania it become known that a member of MQM was found to be inadmissable on the grounds that MQM was classed as “Tier 3 terrorist organization”.

Lets define what is a tier 3 terrorist Organization?

http://www.uscis.gov/laws/terrorism-…y-grounds-trig

Usually tier 3 terrorist organizations are not named in any list by the USA unlike Tier 1 outfits.

However this classification came to light in the following court case brought by an MQM member

http://www.paed.uscourts.gov/documen…s/14d0204p.pdf
 
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It's sad how you're trying so hard to defend this organization. I'd say you were being deceived by them, but I know better.

Old baggage is difficult to leave behind. That being said, there is a MQM suport operating in the US and is NOT at all prosecuted or targeted by the law enforcement in any way. Additionally, this is under the patriot act. Which essentially reads thus,
Patriot Act, Title VIII - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Title VIII alters the definitions of terrorism, and establishes or re-defines rules with which to deal with it. It redefined the term "domestic terrorism" to broadly include mass destruction as well as assassination or kidnapping as a terrorist activity. The definition also encompasses activities that are "dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State" and are intended to "intimidate or coerce a civilian population,"
A further amendment made the following activities part of the definition of "International terrorism"

  • the destruction of aircraft or aircraft facilities[46]
  • violence at international airports[47]
  • arson within special maritime and territorial jurisdictions[18]
  • use of biological weapons[48]
  • use of the variola virus[49]
  • use of chemical weapons[50]
  • the kidnapping or assassination of congressional, cabinet, and Supreme Court members[51]
  • the use of nuclear materials in a terrorist act[52]
  • participation in nuclear and weapons of mass destruction threats to the U.S.[53]
  • the use of plastic explosives [54]
  • the arson and bombing of Government property risking or causing death[55] MQM yes
  • the arson and bombing of property used in interstate commerce[56]
  • the killing or attempted killing during an attack on a Federal facility with a dangerous weapon [19]
  • the conspiracy to murder, kidnap, or maim persons abroad[57] Double check MQM
  • unauthorised access to protected computers[58]
  • the killing or attempted killing of officers and employees of the U.S.,[59]
  • the murder or manslaughter of foreign officials, official guests, or internationally protected persons[60]
  • hostage taking[61]
  • the depredation of government property or contracts[41]
  • the destruction of communication lines, stations, or systems[20]
  • injury to buildings or property within special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the U.S.[21]
  • the destruction of an energy facility[62]
  • Presidential and Presidential staff assassination and kidnaping[63]
  • the wrecking of trains[22]
  • terrorist attacks and other acts of violence against mass transportation systems[2]
  • the destruction of national defense materials, premises, or utilities[64]
  • offenses relating to national defense material, premises, or utilities[37]
  • violence against maritime navigation[65]
  • violence against maritime fixed platforms[66]
  • homicides and other violence against U.S. nationals outside of the U.S.[67]
  • the use of weapons of mass destruction[68]
  • acts of terrorism transcending national boundaries,[69]
  • the bombing of public places and facilities[70]
  • the use of anti-aircraft missile systems[71]
  • the use of radiological dispersal devices[72]
  • harboring terrorists[7]
  • providing material support to terrorists[11]
  • providing material support to terrorist organizations[73]
  • the financing of terrorism,[74] or
  • torture[23]
  • the sabotage of nuclear facilities or fuel[75]
  • airline piracy,[76] assault on a flight crew with a dangerous weapon,[25] endangering human life by using explosive or incendiary devices on aircraft,[77] homicide or attempted homicide on an aircraft[78]
  • destruction of interstate gas or hazardous liquid pipeline facility.[79]
Section 813 included acts of terrorism as racketeering activity (double check MQM)

So essentially, while the MQM did not fit the definition of a terrorist organization earlier, it does now after the PATRIOT act.
However, what really does catch the eye of investigators is the MQM's usage of the illegal money transfer network which is being targeted specifically for terrorism.

Kudos to the OP for spending all those hours searching this out.
 
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Patriot Act, Title VIII - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
  • the arson and bombing of Government property risking or causing death[55] MQM yes
  • the conspiracy to murder, kidnap, or maim persons abroad[57] Double check MQM
Section 813 included acts of terrorism as racketeering activity (double check MQM)

So essentially, while the MQM did not fit the definition of a terrorist organization earlier, it does now after the PATRIOT act.
However, what really does catch the eye of investigators is the MQM's usage of the illegal money transfer network which is being targeted specifically for terrorism.

Kudos to the OP for spending all those hours searching this out.

Kudos, you have discovered the holy grail of MQM being terrorist organisation

i hope you bring this to the notice of the US authorities

In a court case in March 2014 in Pennsylvania it become known that a member of MQM was found to be inadmissable on the grounds that MQM was classed as “Tier 3 terrorist organization”.

Lets define what is a tier 3 terrorist Organization?

http://www.uscis.gov/laws/terrorism-…y-grounds-trig

Usually tier 3 terrorist organizations are not named in any list by the USA unlike Tier 1 outfits.

However this classification came to light in the following court case brought by an MQM member

http://www.paed.uscourts.gov/documen…s/14d0204p.pdf

sorry your link is not working, all designated terror organisation under US state dept are listed in my link, there is no MQM sorry, case is closed

you have to bring me the list where MQM is listed as terror organisation
 
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false cases on MQM and their acquittal

US state department report on Pakistan

e. Denial of Fair Public Trial

On June 11, 16-year-old Mohammad Saleem was convicted by an antiterrorist court of killing three police officers; however, Saleem was tried and acquitted of the same charges by a court in January on the grounds of insufficient evidence and lack of a motive.

On August 21, two MQM members, Mohammed Saleem and Ahmed Saeed, were convicted in an antiterrorist court of the 1997 killings of two foreign employees of Union Texas Petroleum and their driver. The two were sentenced to death, as well as to and approximately $40,000 (PRs 2 million) in fines. Many questioned the fairness of the trial, since the convictions were based largely on the confessions of the accused; the confessions later were retracted on the grounds that they were obtained by the police through the use of torture.

In February 2000, two police inspectors charged with killing an MQM activist in custody in 1998 were denied bail after the Sindh High Court determined that they falsified precinct records and appeared to have committed the crime (see Section 1.a.). During the year, the two police inspectors were released on bail.

 
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Of course it is a terrorist organization. In Canada, it has long been declared a terrorist organization yet still so many MQM sympathizers are permanent residents/citizens in Toronto. And Karachi has been turned into a George Orwell's 1984 esque place with their "bhai" made into a personality cult. Have a look at this video, and see how they have lined whole roads with images of their bhai and their flags.


No wonder, Karachiites are fleeing the dump for better Pakistani cities like Islamabad and Lahore, where they don't have to pay extortion money.
 
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Don't play stupid, for anyone reading this, @W.11 is misleading you, here is the tier three definition in full...

did you expect Babar Ghori will accept your allegations? usey dubara corner main khara ne hona
 
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did you expect Babar Ghori will accept your allegations? usey dubara corner main khara ne hona

Babur Ghaouri is out of the MQM main line, guy made his millions that left the party embarrassed in front of the voters.
 
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Babur Ghaouri is out of the MQM main line, guy made his millions that left the party embarrassed in front of the voters.

don't lie now, how do you kow babar ghauri made millions? now don't say it was told by your chirya like najam sethi
 
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OP mitha laga geya hai dekho kitni makhiyan ati hain:Tier 3:
 
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