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The US is like a warzone, another shooting: 10 dead, 10 wounded in shooting at Santa Fe HS

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So? there are 22 school shooting, how many people were killed in those 22 shooting? 39 killed and 61 wounded (of those 39 killed, 9 were the perpetrator) That is less than 1 suicide bombing in Afghanistan and 1 minor operation in Syria.

Do you even know what a warzone looks like? From your unlimited experience of crouch sitting and TV watching? A warzone is a place where there are no law and order, an open season and free for all on you, not just people have guns are hostile, but literally everything can kill you. Trees, Cars, house, a bridge you step on, a road you walk. Even the air you breath, they are all hostile.

School shooting is a random occurrence, like stepping on an IED, as much as any crime happened anywhere in the world. The problem is, it usually happen in your backyard, that's where the shock is. A warzone is different, when everything you see is basically against you, and everything people do were there to kill you. There are roughly 36,000 high school in the US, 22/36,000 is the odds you walk in a high school and get shot, the odds is a lot better than you walk down a street of Iraq and Afghanistan and get shot or blown up.

As I said, if you think all these high school shooting amount to a warzone, that only mean you have no idea what a warzone looks like, and if this is what you actually think, then I would suggest you should NEVER be in a war
In USA 80 to 90 people are killed due to Gun related wound around 20 are suicide and 10 are accidents and around 60 are murders so pretty bad for a superpower which spends 5.6 Billion dollars on NYPD alone
 
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In USA 80 to 90 people are killed due to Gun related wound around 20 are suicide and 10 are accidents and around 60 are murders so pretty bad for a superpower which spends 5.6 Billion dollars on NYPD alone

You are talking about crime.

The US have 14,000 Gun related homicide, that is a <4 per 100,000 capita. Murder rate on the other hand is at 35,000 per annum, around 5.5 per 100,000 capita.

This number is not something very big or special. When you have a combination of drug and gang problem in pretty much all of the United States.

How much money NYPD spend is irreverent, not all money are directed to fighting crime, majority of those are for crime prevention. What you need to know is that NYPD have one of the best case closing statistic in the world. Which mean law and order is performed and observed in a relatively well managed fashion.

Or you are going to tell me you expected a walk in NYC is the same a walk in Kabul or Baghdad? Again, that only mean you know nothing about warzone.
 
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In 1949, a mentally disturbed man got a gun a went on a rampage in New Jersey killing 10 people. I forgot his name but will not mention it anyway due to discourage any obsessive attention. He was then arrested and due to the nature of his act, he was automatically assumed to be sziophrenic and was sent away to a mental health facility for the rest of his life. While the shooting did garner attention because of the almost unheard of nature regarding the crime, its attention only lasted a few months and the shooter was forgotten. There was no long trial or any obsessive media coverage over the shooter. Compare that to today where these events receive a major amount of attention and the shooter is bathed by media eyes hoping to get every little detail about his life, motivation, and family.

If you analyze these shooters and their relationship with society, you find that the majority of them are socially isolated in many aspects. They often envy and at the same time despise people who supposedly live a better social life than them. They feel left out and rejected which results in a misanthropic worldview along with an attitude that everyone else is conspiring to beat them down. This creates someone who is resentful towards society and “normal people”. Combine this with the rise of social media where a lot of people their age are celebrities online through social networks which causes them to feel inferior and even more detached from society. They adopt pessimistic depressed view that they are powerless in every way and everyone else exerts their power over them. However this perceived injustice is usually a exaggerated paranoia exhibited by the shooter.

So these people who have such a resentful and misanthropic attitude and feel hopeless, depressed, and feel that their life is worth nothing because of society, plan their “retribution”. They do not have any regrets or anything holding then back from committing their atrocity because of their hatred and depression. Their only motive is to transfer the perceived suffering, injustice, fear, and hopelessness to everyone else through an act of nihilistic violence. Sometimes they follow a ideology (KKK, white supremacist, etc) but most of time, they have no motive other than suffering. They feel like society was deliberately unfair to them and are exacting in their perverted sense, what society has given them: suffering.

However they know that their act of mass violence will be known by everyone. The media will report on everything about them: biography, motive, etc. They want people to know who they are. They felt like nobody ever cared about their existence and now they receive celebrity status. Shooters such as the Utoya shooter and the Aurora shooter basked in the attention from their trial to their everyday life rotting in jail. This sort of celebrity status encourages more people who feel depressed, rejected, and resentful to do the exact same thing. They know they and their act will remain in public eyes for years to come. These tragedies trigger other tragedies. A cycle of violence which is perpetuated by society, media, and the shooters themselves. Its a wheel that everyone keeps on spinning without realizing the horrific consequences of it.
 
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I agree. We need to start profiling these types of people for common patterns. If the FBI could apply behavioral analysis to serial killers, they can do the same to school shooters.
teenagers often act on impulses. behavioral science is useless on them
 
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I do know how it feel killing by firearms and by knife, I am probably one of the few people here that actually did kill a person with both firearms and bayonet in war. I know how it feels.

What you are describing is what happened immediately before you pull the trigger and immediately you stick a knife in someone. The "threshold" is not as big as the one that, when you make a decision somebody is going to die today.

Problem with people view with firearms (I will refer to gun from now on) is that it's not upclose and personal, where you detached from the reality of someone is going to die and killed by you. The problem is, this is already accounted when you decided to kill in the first place, once a person have decided he or she will kill someone, the choice of knifes and guns are only the weapon of choice.

Think of it this way, if you are of sound mental health, will you increase your urge to kill when I handed you a loaded gun? If I hand a knife and a gun to a normal person, they won't say "ah, I got a gun now, I gotta shoot someone" People who, on the other hand already have made up their mind to kill, already had the wheel in motion, and choosing a gun or a knife to do his/her deed is just a process. Because you already have the mind to kill. And that's abnormal to begin with.

I will concede that killing people with a gun is way more easy than knife, but at the end of the day, it is the nature of mass killing, a one off, planned attack over a large area, people who prefer to kill with a knife usually more calculated and more plan have to put in motion, that did not fit the profile of a mass murder, it more suited with the profile of a serial killer.

On the other hand, gun control would have no use in these situation, in fact, gun control would only make the course of killing easier, because you are less likely to encounter armed resistance during your deed. People who usually do this kind of stuff would have had his weapon illegally, or obtained with the fact that they are legally covered (like belong to a gun club or some sort) Both of which would have by-passed gun control law. Even in Australia, gun crime is actually a problem when Australia have a strong gun control culture, to an effect that you cannot own toy gun (A friend of mind actually was charged by the police for selling toy gun, those shooting water bullet from China, and he got charge like he is a big arms dealer....)

The overall problem I see is the mental health problem and lack of mental health care, as I said, if you are right in your mind, you wont go down and kill a bunch of people when I handed you a loaded gun, people have to be sick in the head before something like this is done. And we aren't doing enough to care for these people, which is how this turn out.

""""if" possible"""
I would like , a complete "state of mind" description when both "First time" happened (Gun and Knife)
PM would be ok.
If it's not possible, I understand, sometimes my "Job" take over me... So I get a bit "carried away"...

Thank you.
 
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""""if" possible"""
I would like , a complete "state of mind" description when both "First time" happened (Gun and Knife)
PM would be ok.
If it's not possible, I understand, sometimes my "Job" take over me... So I get a bit "carried away"...

Thank you.

It wouldn't bother me as much as before, if you leave your e-mail I can tell you what you want to know
 
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Soon terrorist will over take US nukes!
Why are Iranians so quite on it?
 
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Soon terrorist will over take US nukes!
Why are Iranians so quite on it?

According to the Iranian, it already happened.

Do you remember? US government is a terrorist to the Iranian.
 
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According to the Iranian, it already happened.

Do you remember? US government is a terrorist to the Iranian.

World media is under playing.. .target killing children in month of Ramadan.
This is some evil ritual by the rulers of USA.
 
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