The Un-Intended Eye Opener Of 27th Feb:---

[MastanKhan]

Not really. The IAF is already being trained by the "so called" best of the best, the israelis, and we have seen the result.

Hi,

As it happens---such shocking interactions creates a euphoria---and if it can be directed towards the right direction---your country and your neighbor can benefit a lot from it---.

If it was me---and I had a boarding school in pakistan---I would start to recruit emirati and saudi kids 12-14 years of age who want to join the militaries of their respective countries---and start to school them and train them for future services---.

I think that you should start this program in emirates---send a batch of young emirati boys to pakistani cadet colleges to be brought up as future soldiers of emirates---.

 

[Dreamer.]

So I hope it also opened your eyes, just a little bit perhaps?

Apparently Not!

Hi,

Are you that ignorant---?

The Paf blundered the first night for not being ready to entrap the enemy aircraft ---that showed---either there was no planning ahead of time even though the enemy had already announced its intentions---Paf was scared to take on the enemy---Paf just plain and simple failed to understand the level of the threat---.

The day 2 was more of a show and pomp calculated strike---.

The night combat would have been the real show and tell of the Paf---.

I am just letting you children have some moments to enjoy---but tactically---the Paf failed the first night---.

The Paf were thinking to play the same drama of 2008 of popping up of picture of an indian aircraft lock to the media---.

But this time the reaction from the public was so furioius and angry---that the Paf was forced to do something---.

The pakistani public literally m-f'd the Paf and ispr after the first night---.

How incompetent the Pak military was---how un-prepared pak military was---they had to wake up their prime minister at 3 am---.

That showed a total lack of leadership---a total lack of understanding the enemy threat---a total lack of comprehending what the enemy was saying---.

So---just cherish these few moments of joy and your rhetoric---.

You really lack comprehension skills. You need to go and read my post again and actually try to understand what I was saying first before replying. I even quoted a particular part of your post while making my comment, and you still fail to understand what it meant. Your post is worthy of the kids you bemoan so often.

So go and read the post again and try a second time. Please.

 

[MastanKhan]

That's criminal.... i believe few more MKI kills, dead bipin, couple of supply depots hit, Indian troops would be on march and we'll had a free Kashmir today.

Hi,

See again---Indira Gandhi was right---pak generals do not have the ballz---.

It was time to decimate the enemy---why such cowardice from general command---.

Apparently Not!

You really lack comprehension skills. You need to go and read my post again and actually try to understand what I was saying first before replying. I even quoted a particular part of your post while making my comment, and you still fail to understand what it meant. Your post is worthy of the kids you bemoan so often.

So go and read the post again and try a second time. Please.

Hi---,

I am not your atypical pakistani---. I don't understand one liners or spins easily---. Write clearly what you want to say---.

 

[crankthatskunk]

Hi,

Are you that ignorant---?
The Paf blundered the first night for not being ready to entrap the enemy aircraft ---that showed---either there was no planning ahead of time even though the enemy had already announced its intentions---Paf was scared to take on the enemy---Paf just plain and simple failed to understand the level of the threat---.
The day 2 was more of a show and pomp calculated strike---.
The night combat would have been the real show and tell of the Paf---.
I am just letting you children have some moments to enjoy---but tactically---the Paf failed the first night---.
The Paf were thinking to play the same drama of 2008 of popping up of picture of an indian aircraft lock to the media---.
But this time the reaction from the public was so furioius and angry---that the Paf was forced to do something---.
The pakistani public literally m-f'd the Paf and ispr after the first night---.
How incompetent the Pak military was---how un-prepared pak military was---they had to wake up their prime minister at 3 am---.
That showed a total lack of leadership---a total lack of understanding the enemy threat---a total lack of comprehending what the enemy was saying---.
So---just cherish these few moments of joy and your rhetoric---.

@MastanKhan , spot on. It had been going on for far too long, no one taking the responsibilities and hard decisions in Pakistan. On other forum I always write that Pakistani men have no balls. Our failures on diplomatic fronts are glaring. India is doing open terrorism in Pakistan via their proxies for years but not a single Pakistani raised it in world forums. Our journalists cannot put two English sentences together, there is complete lack of Pakistan's point of view in world press. What they do in their programs is discuss the write ups in NYT, Washington Post etc. etc.
The other day Sabir Shakir was reading some English document in his program, man that was just embarrassing. How can such journalists represent and safe guard Pakistan's interests in the world!!! How these crooks beg and ask questions from Sharifs and Zardaris is also painful to see. Put Bilawal Bhutto, the traitor in front of me and I will smoke him in 10 minutes. But there is no one in Pakistan to do that.
Similarly, Pakistan's army have made a very bad mistake, I am not going to repeat it, because I have already written many posts on it. Definitely on the first night they were sleeping, even when they did airborne, their aim was to usher the IAF jets out of Pakistani airspace, too scared to strike. Shameful.

 

[Signalian]

@MastanKhan , spot on. It had been going on for far too long, no one taking the responsibilities and hard decisions in Pakistan. On other forum I always write that Pakistani men have no balls. Our failures on diplomatic fronts are glaring. India is doing open terrorism in Pakistan via their proxies for years but not a single Pakistani raised it in world forums. Our journalists cannot put two English sentences together, there is complete lack of Pakistan's point of view in world press. What they do in their programs is discuss the write ups in NYT, Washington Post etc. etc.
The other day Sabir Shakir was reading some English document in his program, man that was just embarrassing. How can such journalists represent and safe guard Pakistan's interests in the world!!! How these crooks beg and ask questions from Sharifs and Zardaris is also painful to see. Put Bilawal Bhutto, the traitor in front of me and I will smoke him in 10 minutes. But there is no one in Pakistan to do that.

Good that you pointed out other institutions of Pakistan also, otherwise the focus is always is on PAF.

Similarly, Pakistan's army have made a very bad mistake, I am not going to repeat it, because I have already written many posts on it. Definitely on the first night they were sleeping, even when they did airborne, their aim was to usher the IAF jets out of Pakistani airspace, too scared to strike. Shameful.

War mongering is useless, if you are abreast with current affairs, then an example is India.

 

[crankthatskunk]

Good that you pointed out other institutions of Pakistan also, otherwise the focus is always is on PAF.
War mongering is useless, if you are abreast with current affairs, then an example is India.

I was only pointing to the first night attack by the Indians. If we downed 1/2 Mirages at the time, we didn't even need to do the daytime strikes. It would have deterred Indians and taken away the shambolic hallow cries of "Surgical Strikes".
We give this chance to the Indians on a platter, unfortunately.

 

[Signalian]

That's criminal.... i believe few more MKI kills, dead bipin, couple of supply depots hit, Indian troops would be on march and we'll had a free Kashmir today.

Its going to take much more than that to invade Kashmir, sacrifice thousands and thousands of Pakistani soldiers. Freeing Kashmir is another story and comes way after that.

I was only pointing to the first night attack by the Indians. If we downed 1/2 Mirages at the time, we didn't even need to do the daytime strikes. It would have deterred Indians and taken away the shambolic hallow cries of "Surgical Strikes".
We give this chance to the Indians on a platter, unfortunately.

Downing Indian Mirages which would have fallen inside IOK and given India a valid reason to start a war on this pretext ? Give the enemy what it wants.... is that how you win a war?

A tit for tat response should have been given , in fact a better, more mature, more responsible response was given by PAF, but you are hell bent on an all out war to take place somehow.

 

[Dreamer.]

Hi---,

I am not your atypical pakistani---. I don't understand one liners or spins easily---. Write clearly what you want to say---.

Did I not quote the below part of your post along with my comment in my first post? I quote it again with some parts in bold this time.

Hi,
You had to listen to Latif's interview to understand the conviction in his cause---and to deal with the chinese---who are very head strong and to charm them and tame them to do his bidding and to think the way that he thought of a design problem and its solution is an eye opener.

I was referring to your assertions in the past that went something like, "PAF brass intentionally Sabotaging development of JF-17 which should have been 25% larger and it was criminal that it wasn't. That it should not have been what it is, but should have have been a J-10 instead and it was due to PAF being traitors playing with lives of young pilots" etc. etc. etc.

I was hoping those interviews that you were talking about did some thing for your own eyes aswell.

Nowhere was I talking about the events of 27th Feb or the 26th!

 

[GumNaam]

Its going to take much more than that to invade Kashmir, sacrifice thousands and thousands of Pakistani soldiers. Freeing Kashmir is another story and comes way after that.


Downing Indian Mirages which would have fallen inside IOK and given India a valid reason to start a war on this pretext ? Give the enemy what it wants.... is that how you win a war?

A tit for tat response should have been given , in fact a better, more mature, more responsible response was given by PAF, but you are hell bent on an all out war to take place somehow.

Once we establish our military dominance over the indian mindset, it won't cost thousands and thousands of lives, they'll drop their weapons and run just like their air farts.

 

[Signalian]

Once we establish our military dominance over the indian mindset, it won't cost thousands and thousands of lives, they'll drop their weapons and run just like their air farts.

...you are under estimating India in the same way how India under estimated Pakistan and got a slap on its face.
One or two aircraft kills in a skirmish is not a pretext to get confident to start a war or invade Kashmir. 1965 was the same....please learn from history

 

[MastanKhan]

I was only pointing to the first night attack by the Indians. If we downed 1/2 Mirages at the time, we didn't even need to do the daytime strikes. It would have deterred Indians and taken away the shambolic hallow cries of "Surgical Strikes".
We give this chance to the Indians on a platter, unfortunately.

Hi,

Pakistani kids shock me---. India declared war on pakistan---and these pakistani boys are crying----no it is LOC infraction---.

That is why I have stated so many time---an LOC infraction by a sortie of fighter aircraft---after declaring hostile action at will and at a time of their chosing is a declaration of war---.

This " infraction " in kashmir was a part of the thrid strike force that tried to ingress---.

A total number of 40 plus aircraft were used by the enemy in the 3 locations---.

That was an all out war---. That is what pak military should have proclaimed after downing half of them---" we thought it was the starting of a war "---.

 

[batmannow]

Sure. Enslaved to 'some sort of superiority'. Such minds cannot accommodate & digest emerging reaities & strategise.

Main fact was their , new found richnes in 70s , before that , they were fighting israeli occupation ?
But when they got the money , they became greedy and jealous to each others which israelis played to thier power against them ?
Jst look how , iran and KSA s relationship and the role of israel ???

Hi,

Pakistani kids shock me---. India declared war on pakistan---and these pakistani boys are crying----no it is LOC infraction---such cowards---.

That is why I have stated so many time---an LOC infraction by a sortie of fighter aircraft---after declaring hostile action at will and at a time of their chosing is a declaration of war---.

This " infraction " in kashmir was a part of the thrid strike force that tried to ingress---.

A total number of 40 plus aircraft were used by the enemy in the 3 locations---.

That was an all out war---. That is what pak military should have proclaimed after downing half of them---" we thought it was the starting of a war "---.

Yes thats a undeclared war , which will be fought like tht in episodes

 

[Signalian]

Hi,

That was an all out war---. That is what pak military should have proclaimed after downing half of them---" we thought it was the starting of a war "---.

You really want to create the "act of war leading to an all out war" slogan and get everybody here pumped up, just like Indian media did to Indian minds

I like your spirit

 

[crankthatskunk]

Its going to take much more than that to invade Kashmir, sacrifice thousands and thousands of Pakistani soldiers. Freeing Kashmir is another story and comes way after that.


Downing Indian Mirages which would have fallen inside IOK and given India a valid reason to start a war on this pretext ? Give the enemy what it wants.... is that how you win a war?

A tit for tat response should have been given , in fact a better, more mature, more responsible response was given by PAF, but you are hell bent on an all out war to take place somehow.

Brother, you are started to worry me with your logic. You see I may be not that good with technologies, because I never been a frequent visitor to the forums before these incidents. But I am a good analyst.
Are you trying to tell me that when someone attack your sovereign territory, it is not declaration of war!!
And you to beat back the intruder would be a good reason to start the war, but day time intrusion and attacks on their military installations is not a good reason to start a war!!
I am baffled, truly baffled.

 

[Signalian]

Brother, you are started to worry me with your logic. You see I may be not that good with technologies, because I never been a frequent visitor to the forums before these incidents. But I am a good analyst.
Are you trying to tell me that when someone attack your sovereign territory, it is not declaration of war!!
And you to beat back the intruder would be a good reason to start the war, but day time intrusion and attacks on their military installations is not a good reason to start a war!!
I am baffled, truly baffled.

Has India invaded Pakistan after being bombed on 27th feb ?