The Un-Intended Eye Opener Of 27th Feb:---

[SQ8]

Indians came with all kind of colors - bluish hexgon, tricolors stripes, lots of stars etc.
Its a bloody nose for all of them & its still bleeding. They are all in real pain, i can tell you, reaking with revenge.
First time in 120y, their air dominance has been called into question.
F I R ST B L O O D.

That being said; we should not celebrate prematurely as this likely was not IAF’s A-game.

Mam u r right about mirages part
Both Air Forces crossed loc and ib multiple time and we had air superiority in Indian airspace for good 3-4 mins , 5 sukhois were running away while being chased by our guys , there was a time when in very small pocket there were about 30 AC’s flying very closely. Rest I can’t go into details:•)

We reduced their SA and their systems did not perform as advertised. However, they have their suppliers out ther performing improvements and advise at maddening pace as we type.

Hopefully our side is taking this into account and not laxing in a sense of complacency.

One thing that has to be kept in mind.
These “limited wars” are actually in our favor since it gives us the ability to put equal numbers and assets into the area.

In an all out conflict we may have different issues.

 

[MastanKhan]

interesting... what do you make of the evidence that all of the BVR and WVR seekers on Abhinandan's plane are intact and can be seen in pictures below:

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10156624553557663

The Indian story that Abhinandan shot down an F-16 has no merit after this.

Hi,

That is what happens in the heat of battle---. Many a soldiers thought they fired their rifles---but what they were doing was cocking and uncocking the bolt---loading and unloading bullets and they thought they had fired their rifles---

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Hi,

this is war---. Real truth will come out years later---.

So---for now we will cherish our 'claimed' victory---.



Hi,

If it works when it is needed the most---and it gives results---that is the best weapon---.

Few relevant Turkish sayings:

Number of blows can't be counted during a fist fight....

Be the first in queue when food is served, but the last one when fighting starts....

 

[Khafee]

PLAAF & PAF have a very strong working relationship. IF PAF can do this, what can the PLAAF deliver.....

On the Iraqi's - I read a book written by a USAF Gen in charge of Allied Air Forces in the 1st Gulf War, and he said something like this: "the Iraqis had been trained by the Soviets, French & Pakistanis. It is the Pakistani training we hoped wouldn't kick in." I'm recalling this from memory, so armchair generals and keyboard warriors, kindly don't hound me if I'm a word off or two.

I asked someone to dig out this book for me.
Pages 356 &357

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[messiach]

india & susrael apart from being money-lenders & launderers, they have french as their common Abbo jee. & french wheeling&dealing is as bogus & deceptive as bottle of Cognac.

Dont bother about them, they are as BS as BS is. Just keep up the guard. They kill by 'way of deception'.

That being said; we should not celebrate prematurely as this likely was not IAF’s A-game.
We reduced their SA and their systems did not perform as advertised. However, they have their suppliers out ther performing improvements and advise at maddening pace as we type.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

@MastanKhan , a positive contribution and a great read sir.
Just like to add where PAF's bold actions have left the powers dumbfounded, it has also given a shock treatment to others in our vicinity, some of those who were counting on India to teach Pakistan a lesson or even making direct threats. The scenario somewhat resembles the 1965 episode when an over confident IAF didn't even bothered to disperse their aircraft and left them in open. This time India probably didn't even expected a reaction and that too in broad daylight. Kudos to PAF, just one operation and it's back to drawing boards for the IAF.

PAF critiques are like - What have you done for me tomorrow? And, whatever it is, it's never 100%....

IAF critiques are like - What will you do for me yesterday? And, whatever it is, it's always more than 100%....

 

[Khafee]

india & susrael apart from being money-lenders & launderers, they have french as their common Abbo jee. & french wheeling&dealing is as bogus & deceptive as bottle of Cognac.

Dont bother about them, they are as BS as BS is. Just keep up the guard. They kill by 'way of deception'.

Off topic, but what is your opinion of the Rafale F3

 

[messiach]

Potent even in small numbers, although some PAF officers think otherwise.

Off topic, but what is your opinion of the Rafale F3

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

I asked someone to dig out this book for me.
Pages 356 &357


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@The Eagle @waz @Tps43 @Signalian @Mentee

@Awan68 @Vortex @Humble Analyst @Thorough Pro @BATMAN

@MastanKhan @I.R.A @MUSTAKSHAF @M.AsfandYar @War Thunder

@CHACHA"G" @Mangus Ortus Novem @Gillani88 @PWFI @Major Sam

@Alirreza @chauvunist @The Deterrent @TheGreatOne @PaklovesTurkiye

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@Khafee my friend,


But of course a great find! Based on facts.

As a military man you know fully that Pak Armed Froces have to fight with their backs against the wall.
No room to retreat.

#PakOffensiveDefence is part and parcle of training and #PakWarMethodology.

I fear that the Indians are not done yet. They have this last chance to cause harm to Pak State.

Soon Pak is going to slowly announce 'discoveries' of natural resources. Pak might become Arab!

What in your professinonal opinion are the chances of my fear realising itself...i.e... Indians going ganga on Pak?

Thanks for sharing the scan.

Regards,

Mangus

 

[Khafee]

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@Khafee my friend,


But of course a great find! Based on facts.

As a military man you know fully that Pak Armed Froces have to fight with their backs against the wall.
No room to retreat.

#PakOffensiveDefence is part and parcle of training and #PakWarMethodology.

I fear that the Indians are not done yet. They have this last chance to cause harm to Pak State.

Soon Pak is going to slowly announce 'discoveries' of natural resources. Pak might become Arab!

What in your professinonal opinion are the chances of my fear realising itself...i.e... Indians going ganga on Pak?

Thanks for sharing the scan.

Regards,

Mangus

Indian politicians win via war mongering.

Indian public wins via trade.

The sooner the Indian public realize the game being played, the better for them. This election will define how aware the public is of their own interest.

 

[batmannow]

If true, they survive over El Kuds but not Pak!!!! SubhanAllah....

Why mike pompeo , has said pakistans nuclear programe and its assests are danger to usa ?
Why this statment comes on this time ???

 

[Dazzler]

You have the right info.

Because he saw the footage.

 

[batmannow]

If true, they survive over El Kuds but not Pak!!!! SubhanAllah....

If arabs had political mind and vision , im sure thy wouldnt be evn flying over QUDS

 

[messiach]

Sure. Enslaved to 'some sort of superiority'. Such minds cannot accommodate & digest emerging reaities & strategise.

If arabs had political mind and vision , im sure thy wouldnt be evn flying over QUDS

 

[Hayreddin]

When israeli general was asked abt their air attack success in arab isreql war , he replied " intelligence , intelligence and more intelligence . "

This is what happened on 27 feb and post .
Remember Gen ghafoor statement a day before pak strike " Be ready for our surprise " .

They threatned 5 times bigger military might that we are coming and be ready and they did it within 24 hrs .
Intelligence and perfect strategy .
Paf shoot down 2 jets and 1 heli .could have shoot down more but disengaged purposefuly.
Destroyed multiple military targets on ground .
Destroyed multiple posts on loc.
Locked on their Army chief and miliatry brass .
Locked on indian submarine in pak waters but didnt drowned to avoid escalation .
Counter their missile attack strategy .

Inteigence intelligence and more intelligence ......