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With all due respect, Afghans already have their land and government.
Quote any one recent survey from a credible source that suggests that majority of Afghans want to live under Taliban rule again, and i will leave this discussion in shame.
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A really interesting report from Afghanistan on the decreasing impact that suicide bombers are having upon the afghan population-
Afghan Suicide Bombings Lose Effectiveness As Tactic-NYT February 15, 2010
In short, although there have been more attacks since 2007, they numbers killed have dropped. I LOVE the last sentence of this story-
KABUL, Afghanistan "The Talibans suicide bombers have been selling their lives cheaply of late.
From Jan. 24 to Feb. 14, a total of 17 suicide bombers took aim at one coalition member after another but failed to kill any of them, according to a compilation of reports from Afghan police and military officials, and from the American-led International Security Assistance Force.
The latest failures were three suicide bombers who attacked an Afghan headquarters outside Marja on Sunday; local people reported them to the authorities, who shot them before they could set off their explosives, according to a spokesman for the Helmand Province governor.
ISAF officials credit better training of Afghan forces, and disruption of the bomb-makers networks by NATO-led raids. Analysts say the Taliban no longer have foreign expertise in preparing suicide bombers, and have a hard time finding competent recruits in a society that until recent years had little history of suicide attacks.
According to a New York Times tally, at least 480 people were killed in 129 suicide bombings in Afghanistan in 2007, not counting the bombers themselves. That death toll dropped to 275 in 2009, even though the number of bombings had increased. A spokesman for ISAF, Maj. Steve Cole, said bombings in recent months have averaged 15 or 16 a month.
In three episodes during the last three weeks, the bombers killed innocent bystanders instead of their coalition targets. Six of the last 17 suicide bombers did not wound anyone beyond themselves. In all, those 17 bombers wounded 23 members of NATO or Afghan security forces, while killing 6 civilians and wounding 27 others.
A series of four episodes last Thursday, Friday and Saturday were illustrative of the recent attacks and near misses.
On Saturday, at a village in Kandahar Province, a suicide bomber on a motorcycle drove into a joint American-Afghan foot patrol and struck, wounding six American soldiers and five civilians, two of them children, but killing no one, according to the provincial governors spokesman. (An ISAF spokesman said earlier reports that three Americans were killed were incorrect.)
On Friday, a suicide car bomber took aim at an American convoy in Khost Province, detonating as it passed, according to a Taliban spokesman, Zabihullah Mujahid, who claimed that all the soldiers in two trucks were killed. A NATO spokesman, Maj. Matthew Gregory, scoffed at that, saying no coalition personnel were hurt. Also on Friday, a suicide bomber being pursued by ISAF forces blew himself up rather than surrender, according to the ISAF.
On Thursday, a man reportedly wearing a vest of explosives under an Afghan Border Police uniform penetrated a joint Afghan and American military base in Paktia Province in eastern Afghanistan, and exploded close to five American servicemen, wounding all five but again killing none of them, according to the spokesman for the provinces governor.
Asked about the attacks, Mr. Mujahid, the Taliban spokesman, argued that ISAF forces were covering up the damage. We fill those cars and vests using good techniques and lots of explosives but the American military will not let journalists go to the site of the incidents and make honest and real reports, he said.
Brig. Gen. Eric Tremblay, an ISAF spokesman, called the recent phenomenon a cumulative effect of many factors. The Afghan National Security Forces, in quality and quantity, are getting better and getting more experience, he said.
Were also targeting their command and control nodes and degrading their capacity, he added, both for bomb making and supplies.
In the Thursday episode, for example, the suicide bomber got close enough to kill the American soldiers, but his explosives were not powerful enough, General Tremblay said. If they had the right recipe, then those soldiers could not have survived, he said.
Where suicide bombers have succeeded in Afghanistan, they have often been imports, not local people. A Jan. 18 attack involving at least two suicide bombers and other gunmen paralyzed Kabul for a day and killed five people, two of them police officers. The bombers, it later developed, had been smuggled into Afghanistan from Pakistan, according to Afghanistans intelligence service.
Similarly, while the Taliban claimed responsibility for the Dec. 30 attack in which a Jordanian double agent blew himself up at a C.I.A. base, killing seven Americans and a Jordanian intelligence officer, the bombers family maintained that he was working for Al Qaeda. In any case, he was not an Afghan.
The Taliban cannot reach their strategic goals, so they just go and blow themselves up on the roads, said Brig. Gen. Nawab Khan of the Afghan National Army. In the end, they dont have any achievements.
Mia Bloom, a researcher at the International Center for the Study of Terrorism at Pennsylvania State University, says their relative lack of recent success is due to a lower level of education, training and willingness among bombers here. Many of them are coerced or duped into becoming bombers, and the bombers are generally not very excited about the prospect, she said.
Less-motivated, less-educated guys are more likely to make mistakes, she added.
The Talibans success in their suicide campaign, particularly in 2007, was largely due to foreign fighters from Pakistan and Uzbekistan, but that has become much more difficult now because of better border enforcement, she said.
Suicide bombings are an imported tactic that took root slowly here. In the first four years of the conflict, there were only five suicide attacks, according to a United Nations report in 2007. The report also noted that 80 percent of the victims were civilians.
In 2007, the Taliban enlisted a 6-year-old boy, put a bomb vest on him and told him to go up to a group of soldiers and push a button. They told him flowers would shoot out, but the boy was not naïve enough to fall for it; instead he told authorities and they managed to get the vest off safely.
It just shows you theyre not able to get the kind of volunteers in Afghanistan that you get in Israel, Sri Lanka or anywhere else, Ms. Bloom said.
The Talibans suicide bombers should not be dismissed simply because their body count is so low, General Tremblay cautioned. They still are projecting terror.
Dr. Bloom of the terrorism study center said, Theres also still a terror factor of course, but if the only person being killed is the bomber himself, its sort of like Darwinian selection.
The martyrdom testament videos that are so common in other countries are unknown here. Such individual recognition, said the United Nations report, is largely absent in Afghanistan. Instead, these suicide bombers are buried secretly at a potters field in a wasteland at the foot of a mountain, at Kol-e-Hashmat Khan, a neighborhood of junkyards on the outskirts of Kabul. A policeman on duty there said no one ever visited. Many of the unmarked graves have been dug open by starving dogs, which feast on the remains."
Sangar Rahimi contributed reporting from Kabul, and employees of The New York Times from Khost, Kandahar and Helmand Provinces.
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Afghan Suicide Bombings Lose Effectiveness As Tactic-NYT February 15, 2010
In short, although there have been more attacks since 2007, they numbers killed have dropped. I LOVE the last sentence of this story-
KABUL, Afghanistan "The Talibans suicide bombers have been selling their lives cheaply of late.
From Jan. 24 to Feb. 14, a total of 17 suicide bombers took aim at one coalition member after another but failed to kill any of them, according to a compilation of reports from Afghan police and military officials, and from the American-led International Security Assistance Force.
The latest failures were three suicide bombers who attacked an Afghan headquarters outside Marja on Sunday; local people reported them to the authorities, who shot them before they could set off their explosives, according to a spokesman for the Helmand Province governor.
ISAF officials credit better training of Afghan forces, and disruption of the bomb-makers networks by NATO-led raids. Analysts say the Taliban no longer have foreign expertise in preparing suicide bombers, and have a hard time finding competent recruits in a society that until recent years had little history of suicide attacks.
According to a New York Times tally, at least 480 people were killed in 129 suicide bombings in Afghanistan in 2007, not counting the bombers themselves. That death toll dropped to 275 in 2009, even though the number of bombings had increased. A spokesman for ISAF, Maj. Steve Cole, said bombings in recent months have averaged 15 or 16 a month.
In three episodes during the last three weeks, the bombers killed innocent bystanders instead of their coalition targets. Six of the last 17 suicide bombers did not wound anyone beyond themselves. In all, those 17 bombers wounded 23 members of NATO or Afghan security forces, while killing 6 civilians and wounding 27 others.
A series of four episodes last Thursday, Friday and Saturday were illustrative of the recent attacks and near misses.
On Saturday, at a village in Kandahar Province, a suicide bomber on a motorcycle drove into a joint American-Afghan foot patrol and struck, wounding six American soldiers and five civilians, two of them children, but killing no one, according to the provincial governors spokesman. (An ISAF spokesman said earlier reports that three Americans were killed were incorrect.)
On Friday, a suicide car bomber took aim at an American convoy in Khost Province, detonating as it passed, according to a Taliban spokesman, Zabihullah Mujahid, who claimed that all the soldiers in two trucks were killed. A NATO spokesman, Maj. Matthew Gregory, scoffed at that, saying no coalition personnel were hurt. Also on Friday, a suicide bomber being pursued by ISAF forces blew himself up rather than surrender, according to the ISAF.
On Thursday, a man reportedly wearing a vest of explosives under an Afghan Border Police uniform penetrated a joint Afghan and American military base in Paktia Province in eastern Afghanistan, and exploded close to five American servicemen, wounding all five but again killing none of them, according to the spokesman for the provinces governor.
Asked about the attacks, Mr. Mujahid, the Taliban spokesman, argued that ISAF forces were covering up the damage. We fill those cars and vests using good techniques and lots of explosives but the American military will not let journalists go to the site of the incidents and make honest and real reports, he said.
Brig. Gen. Eric Tremblay, an ISAF spokesman, called the recent phenomenon a cumulative effect of many factors. The Afghan National Security Forces, in quality and quantity, are getting better and getting more experience, he said.
Were also targeting their command and control nodes and degrading their capacity, he added, both for bomb making and supplies.
In the Thursday episode, for example, the suicide bomber got close enough to kill the American soldiers, but his explosives were not powerful enough, General Tremblay said. If they had the right recipe, then those soldiers could not have survived, he said.
Where suicide bombers have succeeded in Afghanistan, they have often been imports, not local people. A Jan. 18 attack involving at least two suicide bombers and other gunmen paralyzed Kabul for a day and killed five people, two of them police officers. The bombers, it later developed, had been smuggled into Afghanistan from Pakistan, according to Afghanistans intelligence service.
Similarly, while the Taliban claimed responsibility for the Dec. 30 attack in which a Jordanian double agent blew himself up at a C.I.A. base, killing seven Americans and a Jordanian intelligence officer, the bombers family maintained that he was working for Al Qaeda. In any case, he was not an Afghan.
The Taliban cannot reach their strategic goals, so they just go and blow themselves up on the roads, said Brig. Gen. Nawab Khan of the Afghan National Army. In the end, they dont have any achievements.
Mia Bloom, a researcher at the International Center for the Study of Terrorism at Pennsylvania State University, says their relative lack of recent success is due to a lower level of education, training and willingness among bombers here. Many of them are coerced or duped into becoming bombers, and the bombers are generally not very excited about the prospect, she said.
Less-motivated, less-educated guys are more likely to make mistakes, she added.
The Talibans success in their suicide campaign, particularly in 2007, was largely due to foreign fighters from Pakistan and Uzbekistan, but that has become much more difficult now because of better border enforcement, she said.
Suicide bombings are an imported tactic that took root slowly here. In the first four years of the conflict, there were only five suicide attacks, according to a United Nations report in 2007. The report also noted that 80 percent of the victims were civilians.
In 2007, the Taliban enlisted a 6-year-old boy, put a bomb vest on him and told him to go up to a group of soldiers and push a button. They told him flowers would shoot out, but the boy was not naïve enough to fall for it; instead he told authorities and they managed to get the vest off safely.
It just shows you theyre not able to get the kind of volunteers in Afghanistan that you get in Israel, Sri Lanka or anywhere else, Ms. Bloom said.
The Talibans suicide bombers should not be dismissed simply because their body count is so low, General Tremblay cautioned. They still are projecting terror.
Dr. Bloom of the terrorism study center said, Theres also still a terror factor of course, but if the only person being killed is the bomber himself, its sort of like Darwinian selection.
The martyrdom testament videos that are so common in other countries are unknown here. Such individual recognition, said the United Nations report, is largely absent in Afghanistan. Instead, these suicide bombers are buried secretly at a potters field in a wasteland at the foot of a mountain, at Kol-e-Hashmat Khan, a neighborhood of junkyards on the outskirts of Kabul. A policeman on duty there said no one ever visited. Many of the unmarked graves have been dug open by starving dogs, which feast on the remains."
Sangar Rahimi contributed reporting from Kabul, and employees of The New York Times from Khost, Kandahar and Helmand Provinces.
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which government
Karzai Government elected by fraud election , you dont know
That is very funny statement from you, isnt it? The first time Karzai got elected was fair and free, because the taliban had gone for good. The parliament is elected and there was no fraud in it and was free and fair(By our standard). Karzai's second term was fraudant in those areas where the Taliban are active. In West, North, North East, Central afghanistan and capital the election was held with no significant problem and was free/fair. In the south notabley in Helmand and Qandahar there was fraud because the Taliban disrupted the election and this caused major problems.
Now you tell me about the Taliban elections? They simply came on gun point and killed the innocent peopole. and kakgeta is right. give us one source to suggest that the people of afghanistan want to live under the taliban?
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Karzai Government elected by fraud election , you dont know
I have loads of Afghan friends and i know for a fact that Karazai's government is quite popular in Afghanistan, not because he is a very able politician but because Afghanistan has experienced development during his time and after about 3 decades of stagnation, it is quite a blessing for them.
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A really interesting report from Afghanistan on the decreasing impact that suicide bombers are having upon the afghan population-
Afghan Suicide Bombings Lose Effectiveness As Tactic-NYT February 15, 2010
In short, although there have been more attacks since 2007, they numbers killed have dropped. I LOVE the last sentence of this story-
KABUL, Afghanistan "The Talibans suicide bombers have been selling their lives cheaply of late.
From Jan. 24 to Feb. 14, a total of 17 suicide bombers took aim at one coalition member after another but failed to kill any of them, according to a compilation of reports from Afghan police and military officials, and from the American-led International Security Assistance Force.
The latest failures were three suicide bombers who attacked an Afghan headquarters outside Marja on Sunday; local people reported them to the authorities, who shot them before they could set off their explosives, according to a spokesman for the Helmand Province governor.
ISAF officials credit better training of Afghan forces, and disruption of the bomb-makers networks by NATO-led raids. Analysts say the Taliban no longer have foreign expertise in preparing suicide bombers, and have a hard time finding competent recruits in a society that until recent years had little history of suicide attacks.
According to a New York Times tally, at least 480 people were killed in 129 suicide bombings in Afghanistan in 2007, not counting the bombers themselves. That death toll dropped to 275 in 2009, even though the number of bombings had increased. A spokesman for ISAF, Maj. Steve Cole, said bombings in recent months have averaged 15 or 16 a month.
In three episodes during the last three weeks, the bombers killed innocent bystanders instead of their coalition targets. Six of the last 17 suicide bombers did not wound anyone beyond themselves. In all, those 17 bombers wounded 23 members of NATO or Afghan security forces, while killing 6 civilians and wounding 27 others.
A series of four episodes last Thursday, Friday and Saturday were illustrative of the recent attacks and near misses.
On Saturday, at a village in Kandahar Province, a suicide bomber on a motorcycle drove into a joint American-Afghan foot patrol and struck, wounding six American soldiers and five civilians, two of them children, but killing no one, according to the provincial governors spokesman. (An ISAF spokesman said earlier reports that three Americans were killed were incorrect.)
On Friday, a suicide car bomber took aim at an American convoy in Khost Province, detonating as it passed, according to a Taliban spokesman, Zabihullah Mujahid, who claimed that all the soldiers in two trucks were killed. A NATO spokesman, Maj. Matthew Gregory, scoffed at that, saying no coalition personnel were hurt. Also on Friday, a suicide bomber being pursued by ISAF forces blew himself up rather than surrender, according to the ISAF.
On Thursday, a man reportedly wearing a vest of explosives under an Afghan Border Police uniform penetrated a joint Afghan and American military base in Paktia Province in eastern Afghanistan, and exploded close to five American servicemen, wounding all five but again killing none of them, according to the spokesman for the provinces governor.
Asked about the attacks, Mr. Mujahid, the Taliban spokesman, argued that ISAF forces were covering up the damage. We fill those cars and vests using good techniques and lots of explosives but the American military will not let journalists go to the site of the incidents and make honest and real reports, he said.
Brig. Gen. Eric Tremblay, an ISAF spokesman, called the recent phenomenon a cumulative effect of many factors. The Afghan National Security Forces, in quality and quantity, are getting better and getting more experience, he said.
Were also targeting their command and control nodes and degrading their capacity, he added, both for bomb making and supplies.
In the Thursday episode, for example, the suicide bomber got close enough to kill the American soldiers, but his explosives were not powerful enough, General Tremblay said. If they had the right recipe, then those soldiers could not have survived, he said.
Where suicide bombers have succeeded in Afghanistan, they have often been imports, not local people. A Jan. 18 attack involving at least two suicide bombers and other gunmen paralyzed Kabul for a day and killed five people, two of them police officers. The bombers, it later developed, had been smuggled into Afghanistan from Pakistan, according to Afghanistans intelligence service.
Similarly, while the Taliban claimed responsibility for the Dec. 30 attack in which a Jordanian double agent blew himself up at a C.I.A. base, killing seven Americans and a Jordanian intelligence officer, the bombers family maintained that he was working for Al Qaeda. In any case, he was not an Afghan.
The Taliban cannot reach their strategic goals, so they just go and blow themselves up on the roads, said Brig. Gen. Nawab Khan of the Afghan National Army. In the end, they dont have any achievements.
Mia Bloom, a researcher at the International Center for the Study of Terrorism at Pennsylvania State University, says their relative lack of recent success is due to a lower level of education, training and willingness among bombers here. Many of them are coerced or duped into becoming bombers, and the bombers are generally not very excited about the prospect, she said.
Less-motivated, less-educated guys are more likely to make mistakes, she added.
The Talibans success in their suicide campaign, particularly in 2007, was largely due to foreign fighters from Pakistan and Uzbekistan, but that has become much more difficult now because of better border enforcement, she said.
Suicide bombings are an imported tactic that took root slowly here. In the first four years of the conflict, there were only five suicide attacks, according to a United Nations report in 2007. The report also noted that 80 percent of the victims were civilians.
In 2007, the Taliban enlisted a 6-year-old boy, put a bomb vest on him and told him to go up to a group of soldiers and push a button. They told him flowers would shoot out, but the boy was not naïve enough to fall for it; instead he told authorities and they managed to get the vest off safely.
It just shows you theyre not able to get the kind of volunteers in Afghanistan that you get in Israel, Sri Lanka or anywhere else, Ms. Bloom said.
The Talibans suicide bombers should not be dismissed simply because their body count is so low, General Tremblay cautioned. They still are projecting terror.
Dr. Bloom of the terrorism study center said, Theres also still a terror factor of course, but if the only person being killed is the bomber himself, its sort of like Darwinian selection.
The martyrdom testament videos that are so common in other countries are unknown here. Such individual recognition, said the United Nations report, is largely absent in Afghanistan. Instead, these suicide bombers are buried secretly at a potters field in a wasteland at the foot of a mountain, at Kol-e-Hashmat Khan, a neighborhood of junkyards on the outskirts of Kabul. A policeman on duty there said no one ever visited. Many of the unmarked graves have been dug open by starving dogs, which feast on the remains."
Sangar Rahimi contributed reporting from Kabul, and employees of The New York Times from Khost, Kandahar and Helmand Provinces.
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God protect us from such a gruesome end.........Ameen
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God spare these evil men no end to the eternal misery you can call forth.
See? Even the lowly dogs suffer from hunger. At least these deluded souls found SOME useful purpose in life even if it followed their deaths. Today another bomb blast killed more than 25 innocents at a market in Orakzai.
Even now, the accomplice celebrates his victory with his peers and minions.
I've no sympathy for men who look to harm innocent civilians just to heighten fear and despair. Life is sufficiently hard enough in Afghanistan and Pakistan for all these days.
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God spare these evil men no end to the eternal misery you can call forth.
See? Even the lowly dogs suffer from hunger. At least these deluded souls found SOME useful purpose in life even if it followed their deaths. Today another bomb blast killed more than 25 innocents at a market in Orakzai.
Even now, the accomplice celebrates his victory with his peers and minions.
I've no sympathy for men who look to harm innocent civilians just to heighten fear and despair. Life is sufficiently hard enough in Afghanistan and Pakistan for all these days.
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Can We Defeat the Taliban?
We must understand why our foes in Afghanistan are so formidable.
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EDITORS NOTE: Last week, the New York Times asked President Obama whether the United States is winning in Afghanistan. No, he replied. An additional 17,000 U.S. troops are now on their way to the war-torn country. Why has the Taliban proven to be such a difficult adversary? David Kilcullen, senior counterinsurgency adviser to Gen. David Petraeus in Iraq, explains in this exclusive book excerpt from The Accidental Guerilla: Fighting Small Wars in the Midst of a Big One.
On the basis of my field experience in 200508 in Iraq, Southeast Asia, Afghanistan, and Pakistan, I assess the current generation of Taliban fighters, within the broader Taliban confederation (which loosely combines old Taliban cadres with Pashtun nationalists, tribal fighters, and religious extremists), as the most tactically competent enemy we currently face in any theater. This judgment draws on four factors: organizational structure, motivation, combat skills, and equipment.
Taliban organizational structure varies between districts, but most show some variation of the generic pattern of a local clandestine network structure, a main force of full-time guerrillas who travel from valley to valley, and a part-time network of villagers who cooperate with the main force when it is in their area. In districts close to the Pakistan border, young men graduating from Pakistani madrassas also swarm across the frontier to join the main force when it engages in major combat as happened during the September 2006 fighting in Kandahar Province, and again in the 2007 and 2008 fighting seasons.
These multifaceted motivations provide Taliban fighters with a strong but elastic discipline. Although opportunities may arise for us to divide and conquer elements of the enemy, in practice local ties tend to far outweigh government influence. Thus we need to induce local tribal and community leaders who have the respect and tribal loyalty of part-time elements to wean them away from loyalty to the main-force Taliban. Appealing to the self-interest of local clandestine cell leaders may also help isolate them from the influence of senior Taliban leaders who are currently safe in Pakistan.
Can We Defeat the Taliban? - David Kilcullen - National Review Online
We must understand why our foes in Afghanistan are so formidable.
1 | 2 | 3 | Next >
EDITORS NOTE: Last week, the New York Times asked President Obama whether the United States is winning in Afghanistan. No, he replied. An additional 17,000 U.S. troops are now on their way to the war-torn country. Why has the Taliban proven to be such a difficult adversary? David Kilcullen, senior counterinsurgency adviser to Gen. David Petraeus in Iraq, explains in this exclusive book excerpt from The Accidental Guerilla: Fighting Small Wars in the Midst of a Big One.
On the basis of my field experience in 200508 in Iraq, Southeast Asia, Afghanistan, and Pakistan, I assess the current generation of Taliban fighters, within the broader Taliban confederation (which loosely combines old Taliban cadres with Pashtun nationalists, tribal fighters, and religious extremists), as the most tactically competent enemy we currently face in any theater. This judgment draws on four factors: organizational structure, motivation, combat skills, and equipment.
Taliban organizational structure varies between districts, but most show some variation of the generic pattern of a local clandestine network structure, a main force of full-time guerrillas who travel from valley to valley, and a part-time network of villagers who cooperate with the main force when it is in their area. In districts close to the Pakistan border, young men graduating from Pakistani madrassas also swarm across the frontier to join the main force when it engages in major combat as happened during the September 2006 fighting in Kandahar Province, and again in the 2007 and 2008 fighting seasons.
These multifaceted motivations provide Taliban fighters with a strong but elastic discipline. Although opportunities may arise for us to divide and conquer elements of the enemy, in practice local ties tend to far outweigh government influence. Thus we need to induce local tribal and community leaders who have the respect and tribal loyalty of part-time elements to wean them away from loyalty to the main-force Taliban. Appealing to the self-interest of local clandestine cell leaders may also help isolate them from the influence of senior Taliban leaders who are currently safe in Pakistan.
Can We Defeat the Taliban? - David Kilcullen - National Review Online
tell them not to take the civilians as human shield and see if they can win or lose.
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If we also forget our morals and indiscriminately bomb areas under their control, killing them and their hostage population, i believe the War in Afghanistan and Pakistan can be wrapped up within a week, but then............we wouldn't be much different from these guys would we ?
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Plus they never stand and fight, they attack from behind and then run back into the shadows like the cowards that they are, can you cite any one occurrence when these people stood and fight ? I for one would rather lose like a Hero then to win like a coward.
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Read full article and make comment, Aghan Mujahdeen are much stronger in Gurrilla ware tactics then ISAF which need minimum one million COIN trained army @ 15000 per distt(398 Total Distts ) to defeat them.
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Hit and Run is Gurrilla war Tactic is sucessfull against 10 times greater army with air support .When they will get stinger they will fight one to one
Russia had 150K army defeated in same battle field with Gurrilla Tactics.
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