The Security Dynamics of Balochistan

[Tornado23]

We continue here as discussion is not allowed in that thread ...
it served a purpose, not the first time this thing has been done....it's done to shake up the bush and it worked....

Ah right. Thanks for the explanation.

 

[ghazi52]

Commander Of Balochistan

FC - Pakistan Army

 

[IndusWarrior]

Well what about Allah Nazar's death news

Nvm he's alive

 

[Pakistan Ka Beta]

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[Colonel_Hardstone]

I was thinking about it this morning.

These young men are being shot like stray dogs and killed and the pictures are all over the Media.

Why are they willing to die? 'Baloch Independence' isn't even a major cause with vast ground support.

What is motivating these people to attack hardened targets and be hunted down?

 

[Thinker3]

India is giving money to the leaders of BLA, BNA, BRAS leaders who in turn send these brainwahsed youth to do terrorism. Also India is funding the propaganda compaign inside Balochistan by which new recurits are added.

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

I was thinking about it this morning.

These young men are being shot like stray dogs and killed and the pictures are all over the Media.

Why are they willing to die? 'Baloch Independence' isn't even a major cause with vast ground support.

What is motivating these people to attack hardened targets and be hunted down?

Motivation is money. There is lot of money on the table to take.

 

[The Eagle]

I was thinking about it this morning.

These young men are being shot like stray dogs and killed and the pictures are all over the Media.

Why are they willing to die? 'Baloch Independence' isn't even a major cause with vast ground support.

What is motivating these people to attack hardened targets and be hunted down?

Money due to greed and delusionary thinking.

 

[Colonel_Hardstone]

When a stray dog is on the ground with multiple Bullet wounds, is money enough of a motivational factor for the next dog to join the cause when he is seeing the picture of his comrade?

 

[Thinker3]

When a stray dog is on the ground with multiple Bullet wounds, is money enough of a motivational factor for the next dog to join the cause when he is seeing the picture of his comrade?

The leaders take the money not those who are killed. Maybe they give a little amount to the family, but that is a big maybe.

 

[TheSolution]

When a stray dog is on the ground with multiple Bullet wounds, is money enough of a motivational factor for the next dog to join the cause when he is seeing the picture of his comrade?

It depends on how they are structurally organised, these foot soldiers may not be doing it for money, maybe those that lead, control and recruit them have monetary incentives, but those that physically carry out attacks could be brainwashed in multiple ways, false ideas that they really are liberating their people and this is the Islamic thing to do.

Hence they are willing to sacrifice their lives and seeing dead people motivates them. I doubt a suicide bom#er is doing it for money, he is either ideologically fuelled by the people in charge, or it's a choice he makes for money to be paid to his family, not him.

 

[peagle]

I was thinking about it this morning.

These young men are being shot like stray dogs and killed and the pictures are all over the Media.

Why are they willing to die? 'Baloch Independence' isn't even a major cause with vast ground support.

What is motivating these people to attack hardened targets and be hunted down?

Baluchistan is a deeply tribal society, with strong tribal allegiances. It seems like a lot is going on, but it's just few tribes involved in this movement, what has made things difficult is the financial and material backing by foreign countries.

That has made things difficult, but nothing to worry about. Pakistan military does not want to go all out, because they are still our people and we cannot go about shooting blindly, you kill innocent citizens, and no-one wants that.

So, we have to pay a little price but this will be dealt with.

 

[Signalian]

A basic dictum of COIN is to separate the insurgents from the civilian population. Drones alone are incapable of facilitating population-centric goals of COIN. Their use in ‘clearing’ operations produces negative effects including collateral damage and the militarization of local populations. This not only alienates populations but can fuel further insurgency. Drones have the ability to harass and harry insurgents seeking sanctuary in the area, temporarily denying them security and freedom to operate. It does not ‘deny sanctuary’ in the long-term to the insurgents, nor eliminate their presence.

The operations in swat and FATA displaced civilians from the area and then Army went in to clear the area. Following are the lessons learnt and strategies implemented for success of COIN ops in previous ops.

-Take the heights rather than rely on traditional roads and direct approaches to towns and cities.
-Avoid collateral damage.
-Let the insurgents collect in one place and isolate and take them out.
-Use multiple thrust lines.
-Troop ratio should not be bare minimum but as much as you can afford.
-Use the local people as your front line to be able to separate “black” (bad guys) from “white”; isolate, weaken, and then take the insurgents.
- Public support is paramount.
- Avoid disconnect between the federal and provincial governments on approaching the insurgency.
- Use Quick Impact Projects to win over local population; governance issues are best tackled by good governance, not force.
- Build local social structures.
- Political follow-up is critical once the army succeeds in clearing an area.
- A national effort is needed to fight militancy, not tactical military operations.

Yet to be seen if these steps are viable in baluchistan or PA thinks COIN Ops is just LIC while major conflict is with India.

 

[Pakistan Ka Beta]

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[Signalian]

Looks like IBOs conducted in Baluchistan are mostly undertaken by CTD, FC and Levies.
Army is active in FATA.