The Second Indo-Chinese War (2013-2015)

[LaBong]

Also Abir, I note that you avoided the point of my original post, about the backstabbing.

Because I don't think anyone backstabbed anyone. Nehru did mistakes and suffered from that. India learned the lesson and applied in 71 with Pakistan.

Also I don't think Chinese withdrawal was because of good-will.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Because I don't think anyone backstabbed anyone. Nehru did mistakes and suffered from that. India learned the lesson and applied in 71 with Pakistan.

Also I don't think Chinese withdrawal was because of good-will.

I find it hard to understand what China did to India before 1959, that would cause India to host our largest separatist group on their soil, immediately after they failed to overthrow the Chinese government. And India continued to host them for over half a century.

Also, it was India also who coined the fake phrase "Hindi Chini bhai bhai", even while doing all this at the same time. Hard to see how that is not backstabbing.

 

[kingdurgaking]

China-Japan bilateral trade is in the hundreds of billions. In fact they are our second largest trading partner.

No chance of war with Japan in the near future. Their "pacifist constitution" and lack of nukes prevents them from being a real threat to the Chinese mainland. They need Chinese trade (and rare earth exports) to keep their GDP growth positive as well.

The most serious border dispute that China has, which actually has a chance of leading to war, is the one with India.

LOL ... dont you think India doesnt do bilateral trade with China ?? ... And Japan is in America's Nuclear umbrella.. do you have any clue what it is?? Any attack on Japan will get a retaliation from NATO..
As i remember F-22 's are already on service for Japan and Taiwan

And you never knew which relation turns ugly in course of time..

 

[fighter20]

Guys,it is just a fanboy's imagination.Easy!

 

[kingdurgaking]

Guys,it is just a fanboy's imagination.Easy!

We know we are just debating

 

[LaBong]

I find it hard to understand what China did to India before 1959, that would cause India to host our largest separatist group on their soil, immediately after they failed to overthrow the Chinese government. And India continued to host them for over half a century.

Also, it was India also who coined the fake phrase "Hindi Chini bhai bhai", even while doing all this at the same time. Hard to see how that is not backstabbing.

The South Tibet off-course. India was afraid China would claim South Tibet after annexing Tibet(which they indeed did). However the dopey, idealistic nature of Nehru caused us great deal. He was kid compared to the street-smart Mao.

 

[CardSharp]

I was merely commenting on a certain TIME magazine article, posted by a fellow Chinese member with regards to the 1962 wars



Its seems that the big bad commies backstabbed us right?

Look troll, I lift a passage out of the article to show contemporary thinking about the reason behind the withdraw, a question you posed. If you are just that dull, I'll explain it to you again but if you're being deliberately obtuse, then you can save your butter knife sharp wit.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

LOL ... dont you think India doesnt do bilateral trade with China ?? ... And Japan is in America's Nuclear umbrella.. do you have any clue what it is?? Any attack on Japan will get a retaliation from NATO..
As i remember F-22 's are already on service for Japan and Taiwan

And you never knew which relation turns ugly in course of time..

Exactly!

Japan is under America's nuclear umbrella which makes it difficult for anyone to attack them.

They also have a "pacifist constitution" and no nuclear weapons, which makes it difficult for THEM to attack others.

So overall a good mix.

Anyway, here is a list of China's "largest" trading partners, notice India is not on it.

List of the largest trading partners of the People's Republic of China - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[unicorn148]

Exactly!

Japan is under America's nuclear umbrella which makes it difficult for anyone to attack them.

They also have a "pacifist constitution" and no nuclear weapons, which makes it difficult for THEM to attack others.

So overall a good mix.

Anyway, here is a list of China's "largest" trading partners, notice India is not on it.

List of the largest trading partners of the People's Republic of China - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The list you show is old when the trade was only 40 billion now the trade is 60+ billion dollars and growing faster than others so India will enter the top 5 very fast

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

The list you show is old when the trade was only 40 billion now the trade is 60+ billion dollars and growing faster than others so India will enter the top 5 very fast

Could I ask why you're interested in increasing trade with us?

The trade balance strongly favours China, with a big trade surplus in our favour. Also, China and India are geostrategic rivals.

I'm just curious.

 

[kingdurgaking]

Exactly!

Japan is under America's nuclear umbrella which makes it difficult for anyone to attack them.

They also have a "pacifist constitution" and no nuclear weapons, which makes it difficult for THEM to attack others.

So overall a good mix.

Anyway, here is a list of China's "largest" trading partners, notice India is not on it.

List of the largest trading partners of the People's Republic of China - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Please go through Bloomberg stats for these kind of data.. see the target India and China set for themselves in recent news..

And FYI we are under Russian umbrella already

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Please go through Bloomberg stats for these kind of data.. see the target India and China set for themselves in recent news..

And FYI we are under Russian umbrella already

Russia is also an ally of China, we are both founding members of the SCO, and have a military partnership as seen below.

2001 Sino-Russian Treaty of Friendship - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Look at any Sino-Indian issues like the 1962 war, the recent Sino-Pak nuclear deal, Stapled visas, etc. and you will see that Russia stays out of any dispute between China and India.

 

[kingdurgaking]

Russia is also an ally of China, we are both founding members of the SCO, and have a military partnership as seen below.

2001 Sino-Russian Treaty of Friendship - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Look at any Sino-Indian issues like the 1962 war, the recent Sino-Pak nuclear deal, Stapled visas, etc. and you will see that Russia stays out of any dispute between China and India.

And what about russian president statement during the recent visit?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

And what about russian president statement during the recent visit?

You mean the statement where he did not name any country at all, and instead talked about Mumbai and terrorist attacks?

Tell me when was the last time Russia sided with India against China, in any serious diplomatic spat, be it 1962, the Sino-Pakistani nuclear deal, or Stapled visas?

 

[kingdurgaking]

You mean the statement where he did not name any country at all, and instead talked about Mumbai and terrorist attacks?

Tell me when was the last time Russia sided with India against China, in any serious diplomatic spat, be it 1962, the Sino-Pakistani nuclear deal, or Stapled visas?

Named or un-named he has assured India of massive retaliation from Russian end incase India being attacked right?.. during 1962 India was not in close relationship with Russia but it had with US... And US shipments did start but war ended mean while.. But i hope Russian shipments wont be late.. it will be from day zero...

And India has not asked any ones help for the stapled Visa issue because we feel we can resolve the issue at ease.. we dont want some one's help for these small small issues..

And Kashmir is internal matter which India never let any country to intervene from day one.. i hope you agree in this..