The role of the EU in the current crisis between east and west and how to solve this?

[Superboy]

lol America still builds the best war planes/fighter jets in the world by far(wwhich many countries including China can only dream of). Nobody even comes close. Reason why your officials have been constantly pleading with the U.S to lift the arms/tech embargo on China. If the U.S lifts the Sanctions today, im sure there will be lots of weapons you people will be lining up to buy or at least 'partner' with U.S companies to produce locally unbder license like you do with Russia, But only that U.S weapons are way way more advance than that of Russia, so im afraid if that happens Russia wont even be able to make some billions off you and India anymore. so it will be even more catastrophic for them and their arms industry than you

Chinese are one of the greatest nations on the planet. What makes you think China will want to buy anything from the US? See J-20, arguably the best jet in the world.

 

[MarkusS]

You are hiding your helplessness in the face of stark reality that you can not do anything to preserve yourself..and that your culture is pretty much dead.

Cultures are always "evolving" ...nobody is making the argument that you stay what you were 2000 years ago. But an evolving culture and "multi-culture" are different things.

Look at China--they have their own culture..own people..ever evolving...and present in 21st century. You don't see replacing of Chinese culture with multi-culture. You don't see Chinese cities with Arab, Indian, Pakistani, African, European, Japanese peoples in their millions with their own cultures, languages, and civilizational presence.

So in essence...traditional China is alive (which has evolved with time) in 21st century.

Same can't be said of Europe.

Evolving is one thing..as all surviving cultures evolve within themselves ....but seeing your culture become a completely different thing is another. Europe has no culture of its own now. It has different cultures integrated into a wider culture..with millions of non-Europeans with their own culture, religion, languages, food, customs, dresses, and what not.



Exactly. And subhumans are people like you who are not able to comprehend reality of existence while they are in the process of their own existence!!!

I was reading yesterday a new official report that discusses the fact that in Birmingham today, there are more Muslim children than Christian children. That is not "evolution" of culture...that is complete replacement of a culture...

The entire world has become western. How is my culture dead while we bomb yours into oblivion, install puppet dictators and push the western style on you. What you don´t get (and i blame your heritage on this) is that i give a shit about culture. I´m for dominance and pushing progress into the world. Erase nonsense from the past, crush religions and force a global society into the world. I´m half italian / half german. Which makes me basicly an genetic god.

You bring muslims into the topic. Islam is dead. It has nothing to give young people. I see no islamic space ship or islamic space mission. It simply has no future.

The future of mankind will certainly not be in a mosque. It is in space. The main reason why your country of origin is on the floor, is its extreme backwardeness. I give a shit about your food, believes, clothes or dresses. I would convert to become an australian aboriginal if they develop an interstellar spaceship. And thats what you don´t udnerstand nor can understand. You simply think too small. It is beyond your comprehension.

Same about your argument about "preserving" myself. There is only one way to do so. To **** as much girls as possible and make babies.

So far we generated a global culture. Take your Pakistan for example...it uses our law system. Our letters. Your elite youth wears our clothes styles, technology and language. Social networks and so on.

Our way of adopting anything useful made it possible that we simply crush any other culture in the world. That way we made China a western country where people celebrate Xmas, consume and love Apple.

The times of nations and all this bullshit are over. The world melts into one. I think that process will speed up much more once we come into contact with Alien Life. My current girlfriend if jordanian. The time of small scale inbreding is over. I assure you the typical person in future looks much the same as i do.

I have physical features of almost evry race. And i´m damn proud for this, To be basicly genetic ideal.

Chinese are one of the greatest nations on the planet. What makes you think China will want to buy anything from the US? See J-20, arguably the best jet in the world.

Its slower than Concorde...which has 160 tons more weight. So far i also never saw a chinese space shuttle. I also miss to see how a nation can be great where over 80% of people live in poverty.

Did you ever visit China? I loved Shangahi. But i would not want to visit rural areas. It was quite interesting. In Shanghai nobody looks at you. Its a globalized city. But if you go into rural area they look at you like you are an alien.

 

[Superboy]

The entire world has become western. How is my culture dead while we bomb yours into oblivion, install puppet dictators and push the western style on you. What you don´t get (and i blame your heritage on this) is that i give a shit about culture. I´m for dominance and pushing progress into the world. Erase nonsense from the past, crush religions and force a global society into the world. I´m half italian / half german. Which makes me basicly an genetic god.

You bring muslims into the topic. Islam is dead. It has nothing to give young people. I see no islamic space ship or islamic space mission. It simply has no future.

The future of mankind will certainly not be in a mosque. It is in space. The main reason why your country of origin is on the floor, is its extreme backwardeness. I give a shit about your food, believes, clothes or dresses. I would convert to become an australian aboriginal if they develop an interstellar spaceship. And thats what you don´t udnerstand nor can understand. You simply think too small. It is beyond your comprehension.

Same about your argument about "preserving" myself. There is only one way to do so. To **** as much girls as possible and make babies.

So far we generated a global culture. Take your Pakistan for example...it uses our law system. Our letters. Your elite youth wears our clothes styles, technology and language. Social networks and so on.

Our way of adopting anything useful made it possible that we simply crush any other culture in the world. That way we made China a western country where people celebrate Xmas, consume and love Apple.

The times of nations and all this bullshit are over. The world melts into one. I think that process will speed up much more once we come into contact with Alien Life. My current girlfriend if jordanian. The time of small scale inbreding is over. I assure you the typical person in future looks much the same as i do.

I have physical features of almost evry race. And i´m damn proud for this, To be basicly genetic ideal.

Wrong. Just about every ethnic group has its own country. Kurds and Tibetans are some of the few exceptions. In Estonia, the official language is Estonia, not German, not Italian, ESTONIAN

 

[MarkusS]

Wrong. Just about every ethnic group has its own country. Kurds and Tibetans are some of the few exceptions. In Estonia, the official language is Estonia, not German, not Italian, ESTONIAN

As i said, we work to fight this plaque. The EU is a first step into the right direction. Next step should be to dissolve those nations into one empire. This can later melt togetehr with USA, Canada.New Zealand and Australia and so on.

 

[Superboy]

As i said, we work to fight this plaque. The EU is a first step into the right direction. Next step should be to dissolve those nations into one empire. This can later melt togetehr with USA, Canada.New Zealand and Australia and so on.

An empire won't work. See what happened to Alexander's empire, Russian empire, Chinese empire, Roman empire, Mongol empire, British empire. The world has many cultures, many countries.

 

[MarkusS]

An empire won't work. See what happened to Alexander's empire, Russian empire, Chinese empire, Roman empire, Mongol empire, British empire. The world has many cultures, many countries.

We are one race. And what i see is that only empires bring humanity forward.

The nation state is something that has no place in 20th century and even less place in the 3rd millenium.

Sign in to read: End of nations: Is there an alternative to countries? - life - 03 September 2014 - New Scientist

Nation states cause some of our biggest problems, from civil war to climate inaction. Science suggests there are better ways to run a planet

Try, for a moment, to envisage a world without countries. Imagine a map not divided into neat, coloured patches, each with clear borders, governments, laws. Try to describe anything our society does – trade, travel, science, sport, maintaining peace and security – without mentioning countries. Try to describe yourself: you have a right to at least one nationality, and the right to change it, but not the right to have none.

We need a global society. Only then we can achieve real progress. We must face the reality. No "nation in the world is powerful enough to bring humanity forward.

To colonize Mars we must bring there at least 30.000 people. It is an gargantuan task. We need unity and not division.

The ISS is a small symbol for what we can achieve united.

Wernher von Braun had a dream and said: gravity is the chain that binds us on this planet. Our fate is to conquer the universe and explore it.

It is 100% sure that we are not alone on the universe and our own galaxycontains hundreds of millions pf planets similar earth. Carl Sagan as well as Stephen Hawking expect that we make contact within the next 50 years.

What then? Do you honestly believe then pathetic small nation states will help you in any way?With what would you identify then? With your nation? Or your race and home planet?

To give you a scale...this is our nation is you can see it from Mars

To be honest the mass effect series gives the ebst impression how all this might be in 200 years. When humanity is part of a galactic society. Humanity speaks as one union to defend our race interests, forge diplomatic alliances with other races and so on. Our nations still exist in a way on earth. The North American Union, EU, China, Russia. But for small regional issues.

You get my point?

 

[mike2000]

Chinese are one of the greatest nations on the planet. What makes you think China will want to buy anything from the US? See J-20, arguably the best jet in the world.

Loool, are u joking or being serious bro?

What makes me think China will want to buy American military hardwares? Lool. Well your officials themselves admit they are decades behind the U. S. moreover, they have been urging /pleading with the U. S to lift sanctions against China for decades invane. Do you think if they had no need for U. S tech they will be begging the U. S to lift sanctions the way they have been doing for no reason ? Lool

I cam assure you that if the U. S lifts all its tech /military /space sanctions against China today, your country /officials will be celebrating like its independence day. Lol unfotuntaely for you though, the sanctions won't be lifted for a longgggg time to come. Not until you have reached a level of parity with the U. S.

Until then you can keep deluding yourself into thinking China doesn't need any tech from the U. S. The hell China still relies on Russia for some critical parts /weapons for its military, talk less of the U. S who is decades ahead of Russia militarily, so if China had a choice, im sure you people will ditch Russia for better quality /high tech imports from the U. S. It's just that you don't have a choice for now, reason why you still rely /import from Russia (though your dependence on them has reduced drastically).

 

[Superboy]

Loool, are u joking or being serious bro?

What makes me think China will want to buy American military hardwares? Lool. Well your officials themselves admit they are decades behind the U. S. moreover, they have been urging /pleading with the U. S to lift sanctions against China for decades invane. Do you think if they had no need for U. S tech they will be begging the U. S to lift sanctions the way they have been doing for no reason ? Lool

I cam assure you that if the U. S lifts all its tech /military /space sanctions against China today, your country /officials will be celebrating like its independence day. Lol unfotuntaely for you though, the sanctions won't be lifted for a longgggg time to come. Not until you have reached a level if parity with the U. S.

Until then you can keep deluding yourself into thinking China doesn't need any tech from the U. S. The hell china still relies on Russia for some critical parts /weapons for its military, talk less of the U. S who is decades ahead of Russia militarily, so if China had a choice, sure you people will ditch Russia for better quality /high tech imports from the U. S. It's just that you don't have a choice for now, reason why you still rely /import from Russia (though your dependence on them has reduced drastically).

Americans have crappy technology. F-22 will never ever see combat. This I guarantee you. F-22 is junk. Trust me. F-35 is nowhere, I repeat, nowhere close to IOC. IOC won't be till after 2020. Don't be so sure of American technology. It's all a bunch of crap. China is a great nation.

reason why you still rely /import from Russia (though your dependence on them has reduced drastically).

When's the last time China imported anything from Russia?

 

[mike2000]

Americans have crappy technology. F-22 will never ever see combat. This I guarantee you. F-22 is junk. Trust me. F-35 is nowhere, I repeat, nowhere close to IOC. IOC won't be till after 2020. Don't be so sure of American technology. It's all a bunch of crap. China is a great nation.




When's the last time China imported anything from Russia?

You still import Billions of dollars of Soviet era Russian engines. The U. S can offer wayyyyyy better and you known it.

Without the sanctions you will be heavily reliant on U. S/western arms instead of Soviet Russia ones, that's the only difference. even Russia still imports tech from us, and you think China is so great it doesn't need our tech? Loool. Mind you, you are still behind Russia in military tech, talk less of the west /U. S who are leagues ahead of both of you.

 

[Superboy]

You still import Billions of dollars of Soviet era Russian engines. The U. S can offer wayyyyyy better and you known it.

Why would China import any? WS-10A is a ready

 

[mike2000]

Americans have crappy technology. F-22 will never ever see combat. This I guarantee you. F-22 is junk. Trust me. F-35 is nowhere, I repeat, nowhere close to IOC. IOC won't be till after 2020. Don't be so sure of American technology. It's all a bunch of crap. China is a great nation.

Lool do gou know how many countries have F22 in their air force? Do you know how many countries are relying on F-35?
How many countries are flying your Job-10? Or any fighter jet for that matter(apart from trainers jet)? NONE.
So enough said. China isn't doing that bad, but to compare yourself to the world's only superpower is laughable. When you overtake Russia in military tech, then we can start talking. Until then keep catching up.

 

[Superboy]

So enough said. China isn't doing that bad, but to compare yourself to the world's only superpower is laughable.

World's only superpower? Yeah right. The US can't even beat IS

Lool do gou know how many countries have F22 in their air force?

The answer is precisely 1

Do you know how many countries are relying on F-35?

The answer is precisely 0

hen you overtake Russia in military tech, then we can start talking. Until then keep catching up.

Chinese tech is one of the best in the world. J-20

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Why would China import any? WS-10A is a ready

And don't forget our WS-10G for J-20A and WS-15 for J-20B.

Loool, are u joking or being serious bro?

What makes me think China will want to buy American military hardwares? Lool. Well your officials themselves admit they are decades behind the U. S. moreover, they have been urging /pleading with the U. S to lift sanctions against China for decades invane. Do you think if they had no need for U. S tech they will be begging the U. S to lift sanctions the way they have been doing for no reason ? Lool

I cam assure you that if the U. S lifts all its tech /military /space sanctions against China today, your country /officials will be celebrating like its independence day. Lol unfotuntaely for you though, the sanctions won't be lifted for a longgggg time to come. Not until you have reached a level if parity with the U. S.

Until then you can keep deluding yourself into thinking China doesn't need any tech from the U. S. The hell china still relies on Russia for some critical parts /weapons for its military, talk less of the U. S who is decades ahead of Russia militarily, so if China had a choice, sure you people will ditch Russia for better quality /high tech imports from the U. S. It's just that you don't have a choice for now, reason why you still rely /import from Russia (though your dependence on them has reduced drastically).

If you think that China is just an India with 10 trillion GDP, then you are making a big mistake.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Our way of adopting anything useful made it possible that we simply crush any other culture in the world. That way we made China a western country where people celebrate Xmas, consume and love Apple.

Can you tell me what the market share and revenue share of Apple is?

Annual sales during 11.11 (singles day in China) is one of the biggest spending days in the entire world. It was invented in 2008 by college students on the internet in my hometown. Meanwhile, Christmas sales volumes are so negligible that they don't even show up on google search: Google

How Alibaba invented the world’s biggest online shopping holiday – Quartz

Don't see how you are successful in anything when nobody spends money for your holidays yet spends money for a local holiday that was only invented in 2008.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

I cam assure you that if the U. S lifts all its tech /military /space sanctions against China today, your country /officials will be celebrating like its independence day. Lol unfotuntaely for you though, the sanctions won't be lifted for a longgggg time to come. Not until you have reached a level if parity with the U. S.

Until then you can keep deluding yourself into thinking China doesn't need any tech from the U. S. The hell china still relies on Russia for some critical parts /weapons for its military, talk less of the U. S who is decades ahead of Russia militarily

Yep, you're absolutely right. The 2nd largest publisher of original scientific research in the world, one of the 2 nations in the world that can send a man into space literally tomorrow and the owner of the most powerful supercomputer in the world, would celebrate for closed-source, downgraded imports. Are you really this dumb lol?