The reason why no one buys Chinese Military Equipment

[SW187]

Most of chinesee weapons are actually duplicate clones . Would anyone buy a fake iPhone over real I phone

So what if they are clones, how many countries and companies worldwide have cloned the AK, the uzi, H&K guns, and so on and so on.. They are not sophisticated machines, if you can pull the trigger and it doesn't jam ur good.

But an iphone.. lol.. I wouldn't buy a fake either... that being said.. SAMSUNG FTW!!

 

[Sanchez]

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/th...-the-world-isnt-buying-all-chinas-fancy-18857
The Simple Reason the World Isn't Buying All of China's Fancy Weapons (At Least Not Yet)

In November 2016, China held its major biennial air show in Zhuhai. The event brought in 700 exhibitors as potential customers from Africa and Asia flocked to see Beijing’s military wares.

The main focus of interest was, of course, China’s new J-20 stealth fighter — the country’s next-generation warplane — as the air show was the site of the plane’s first public demonstration.

But the Chinese arms industry is also having trouble, according to the December 2016 edition of O.E. Watch, the newsletter for the U.S. Army’s Foreign Military Studies Office. “Despite this attention, China still faces a number of hurdles in the defense trade industry,” the newsletter noted.

“The global perception of the Chinese defense industry is less than adequate. Some of the perceptions are due to malfunctioning systems or defective weapon designs. Additionally, China lacks extra services, such as training and the maintenance of equipment and arms. Some countries also lack political trust in China.”

To be sure, China has made serious inroads around the world by selling weapons.Two thirds of African countries now use Chinese arms. Over the last few years Chinese weapons exports reached record highs. But lately, arms deals have slowed — and Russia and America still dominate the global market.

In September, Chinese exhibitors apparently struggled to find buyers at an air show in South Africa even as officials in Beijing aggressively tried to secure deals for the JF-17 fighter — a Chinese-Pakistani equivalent to the U.S.-made F-16. Several African countries are more heavily scrutinizing their budgets with consequences for arms sales.

Nigeria is currently the only African country with JF-17s on order.

When Cameroon purchased four brand new Chinese attack helicopters, one of them crashed shortly after delivery, causing an apparent freeze in new acquisitions. There have been concerns among some buyers about the quality of Chinese weapons.

Compared to battle-tested American and Russian weapons, many Chinese systems have yet to prove themselves to new military customers.

During an Indonesian Navy exercise on Sept. 14, 2016, two Chinese made C-705 missiles failed to hit their targets after launching from two KCR-40 attack ships. This was a particularly embarrassing setback in no small part because Indonesian Pres. Joko Widodo personally witnessed it.

Zhou Chenming, a Chinese defense industry insider who previously worked for a subsidiary of China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation and now works at the Knowfar Institute for Strategic and Defense Studies, defended the missiles, emphasizing that human error may have played a role.

“When a missile is fired, human factors play the key role during the intermediate operations to decide whether it will hit its designated target, including a series of reference data such as what altitude it needs to ascend to in the first stage and when it needs to turn,” Zhou told the South China Morning Post.

He added that the C-705 missile and shorter range C-701 and C-704 missiles had proven effective in attacks by Iranian-backed Houthi rebels in Yemen against United Arab Emirates ships serving with the Saudi-led coalition.

Chinese weapons have indeed become popular with warlords, rebel groups and militias around the world given the absence of competing arms dealers. The Sudanese regime in Khartoum has been a prime recipient of Chinese military hardware and has used this position to become a weapons source for armed factions all over the continent.

Chinese anti-aircraft missiles have been spotted in the hands of South Sudanese government troops loyal to President Salva Kiir, while Khartoum-backed rebels answering to Riek Machar have also acquired brand new Chinese-made weapons.

China’s arms exports to Africa have coincided with a surge of investment by Chinese companies hoping to capitalize on the continent’s bountiful natural resources, as well as a steady buildup of Beijing’s own forces.

“Trade is a key element of China’s growing economic might,” O.E. Watch noted. “Should China be able to improve the reliability of its military technologies, it will increase the capabilities and prestige of its defense economy.”

So despite short-term setbacks, as long as there are wars in the world and people fighting them, China’s burgeoning defense industry will no doubt find customers.

This first appeared in WarIsBoring here.

@Hassan Guy：Is Pakistan a country or not？or Turkey，Indonesia，Tailand，or even Vietnam. Are these countries just warlords？You must be ignorant as you always were.

 

[lcloo]

What Turkey bought from China recently ?

May be not as recent as last year. But here are Chinese rockets bought by Turkey.

T-300 Kasırga[edit]

Turkish T-300 Kasırga.
The Turkish missile system, T-300 Kasirga MBRL is based on Chinese WS-1B[1] (Wei Shi; Guardian), with some modifications on the design with launcher very similar to the WS-1B‘s launcher. In Turkish land forces service, the 302mm T-300 Kasirga MBRL system provides long range fire support

The T-300 Kasirga MBRLS consists of two key parts: The launcher system (T-300) and the rocket, TR-300. The T-300 MBRL is based on the German MAN (6×6) 26.372 10t cross-country truck chassis. Combat weight, complete with four rockets, is 23t. This MAN (6×6) also serves as T-122 launch platform for Turkish land forces command. F-302T, the launcher vehicle's cabin windows are provided with shutters which are lowered before the rockets are launched.

 

[Hassan Guy]

@Hassan Guy：Is Pakistan a country or not？or Turkey，Indonesia，Tailand，or even Vietnam. Are these countries just warlords？You must be ignorant as you always were.

WO

I was just posting the article - Doesn't mean I share the same views.

 

[Sanchez]

I do think you like the taste。。。

 

[Beast]

I do think you like the taste。。。

This Hassan Guy just trying to get back at the Chinese after I humiliated him over a series of foolish view of him. Btw, he is not a real pakistanis. They are brainwashed in Canada about everything about Chinese is crap. Future of Pakistan lies with western and not China. He has a very negative view of China and very positive view of west despite western killed more muslim and send most muslim countries backward for 50years.

I dont blame him. When you live in world with manipulate view of what the white mens wants you to know rather than what the truth is for decade. How can such deep rooted propaganda be changed overnight?

By the way, the opening article has full of mistakes and manipulate sentence. Typical western propaganda style by the west.

 

[Hassan Guy]

This Hassan Guy just trying to get back at the Chinese after I humiliated him over a series of foolish view of him. Btw, he is not a real pakistanis. They are brainwashed in Canada about everything about Chinese is crap. Future of Pakistan lies with western and not China. He has a very negative view of China and very positive view of west despite western killed more muslim and send most muslim countries backward for 50years.

I dont blame him. When you live in world with manipulate view of what the white mens wants you to know rather than what the truth is for decade. How can such deep rooted propangda be changed overnight?

By the way, the opening article has full of mistakes and manipulate sentence. Typical western propaganda style by the west.

WO

I was just posting the article - Doesn't mean I share the same views.

 

[Beast]

Then why posted it? You are contradicting yourself.

 

[Hassan Guy]

Then why posted it? You are contradicting yourself.

Sharing the article doesn't mean I have the same views.

 

[Beast]

Sharing the article doesn't mean I have the same views.

Sharing without properly explaning of your opposing view is as good as ca-hooting with those China basher. You are just helping to misled more people over China progress.

 

[Hassan Guy]

Sharing without properly explaning of your opposing view is as good as ca-hooting with those China basher. You are just helping to misled more people over China progress.

Oh.

Oops.

 

[Sanchez]

This Hassan Guy just trying to get back at the Chinese after I humiliated him over a series of foolish view of him. Btw, he is not a real pakistanis. They are brainwashed in Canada about everything about Chinese is crap. Future of Pakistan lies with western and not China. He has a very negative view of China and very positive view of west despite western killed more muslim and send most muslim countries backward for 50years.

I dont blame him. When you live in world with manipulate view of what the white mens wants you to know rather than what the truth is for decade. How can such deep rooted propaganda be changed overnight?

By the way, the opening article has full of mistakes and manipulate sentence. Typical western propaganda style by the west.

If it were from a foolish hindu guy we can just ignore it. As a guy waving a Pakistani flag it’s different story. The first time Pakistan got Chinese weapons was in the 1965 war while the weapons were directly taken from Chinese army not from factory. We have never forced Pakistan to buy weapons from us. If you don‘t like it just buy from others.

 

[royalharris]

If it were from a foolish hindu guy we can just ignore it. As a guy waving a Pakistani flag it’s different story. The first time Pakistan got Chinese weapons was in the 1965 war while the weapons were directly taken from Chinese army not from factory. We have never forced Pakistan to buy weapons from us. If you don‘t like it just buy from others.

No need be serious with a lunatic
Even the USA can't change anything about us,why concern what a lunatic think

Just watch silently, you will find the true colors under different skins

 

[Hassan Guy]

No need be serious with a lunatic
Even the USA can't change anything about us,why concern what a lunatic think

Just watch silently, you will find the true colors under different skins

Sharing the article doesn't mean I have the same views.

 

[damm1t]

May be not as recent as last year. But here are Chinese rockets bought by Turkey.

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T-300 Kasırga[edit]

Turkish T-300 Kasırga.
The Turkish missile system, T-300 Kasirga MBRL is based on Chinese WS-1B[1] (Wei Shi; Guardian), with some modifications on the design with launcher very similar to the WS-1B‘s launcher. In Turkish land forces service, the 302mm T-300 Kasirga MBRL system provides long range fire support

The T-300 Kasirga MBRLS consists of two key parts: The launcher system (T-300) and the rocket, TR-300. The T-300 MBRL is based on the German MAN (6×6) 26.372 10t cross-country truck chassis. Combat weight, complete with four rockets, is 23t. This MAN (6×6) also serves as T-122 launch platform for Turkish land forces command. F-302T, the launcher vehicle's cabin windows are provided with shutters which are lowered before the rockets are launched.

Ehh this story older than Jesus