The Reason Why America's F-35 Would Crush China's J-20 Stealth Fighter in Battle

[Oldman1]

Anti-stealth radars like DWL-002 with a range of 500KM and above which was unveiled at a Defense Exhibition a couple of years ago have caught the US by surprise and put USAF on the defense when they grounded practically all its F-22

Yes. The early one like YLC was based on the Tamara and Vera system.

I have not been able to follow on its latest development but I am pretty sure by now China have much more newer and more advanced version today.

Satellites image revealed that China has started installing them on the artificial islands in the South China Sea and that is a source of worrisome for the US Military operating in the area.

China's New Anti-Stealth Radar Material: Technology Could Make Jets, Ships Harder To Detect
http://www.ibtimes.com/chinas-new-a...y-could-make-jets-ships-harder-detect-2181442

Yeah I heard about that. They said that it forced the U.S. to cancel the F-22 production and are thinking about retiring the F-22s to the boneyard.

 

[BoQ77]

Put it this way, China may have perfected it to a degree that the stealthy F-22 and F-35 is now like the Emperor without his clothing.

Yes. In a way you are right except the Czech "VERA" system was never perfected and that is why the West claimed that they as INACCURATE.

Based on Chinese sources, the Chinese PLC variants are pretty accurate and that is because of China own R&D. We can says has reinvented the wheel when it comes to Passive PLC radar system.

It is some who says that China T-96 series is based on T-59 which may be quite true. But these improved T-59 variants with its 1000hp engine has in fact humiliated the mighty Russia 1130hp T-72 then.

You can't simply get R&D capability by purchase some systems.
The manufacturer has that and could make the system better easier than any other.

 

[CAPRICORN-88]

You can't simply get R&D capability by purchase some systems.
The manufacturer has that and could make the system better easier than any other.

You are right and in your argument for Vietnam, you consider this.

It is a well established knowledge among Military analysts, experts that China R&D researchers can and have achieved more than just mere improvisation and surprising RADAR is one among those field that China has in fact supersede USA today.

Why do you think China Military is so confident and has shown absolute NO FEAR in challenging USA and is in fact instilling INSECURITY to USA Military operating in the South China Sea today? Think about it!

Yeah I heard about that. They said that it forced the U.S. to cancel the F-22 production and are thinking about retiring the F-22s to the boneyard.

I am pretty sure that as a competitor, USA will not sit idle either.
They will come out with some form of countermeasure like what China or Russia are doing today.

However there is a nagging problem in the US military, lack of fund for Military R&D. USA has fought 222 years of war out of the 239 years since 1700's and it is about time USA should take a rest and recuperate from these expensive operations.

 

[Oldman1]

They will come out with some form of countermeasure like what China or Russia are doing today.

However there is a nagging problem in the US military, lack of fund for Military R&D. USA has fought 222 years of war out of the 239 years since 1700's and it is about time USA should take a rest and recuperate from these expensive operations.

We don't stop building, upgrading or developing new weapons.

 

[hoangsa74]

Australian air force with their f-35 can single handedly destroy the Chinese air force of j-20 and j whatnot; let alone a power like the u.s.a.

 

[Hassan Guy]

Pakistan should go for F-35's, not J-20's.

 

[nang2]

the key phrase is "in battle".

 

[Muhammad Omar]

Pakistan should go for F-35's, not J-20's.

Too Expensive..

 

[Hassan Guy]

Too Expensive..

It's the same price, actually a J-20 is more expensive then an F-35A

 

[Muhammad Omar]

It's the same price, actually a J-20 is more expensive then an F-35A

So who told you Pakistan is going for J-20 in fact J-20's are not for Export..

 

[Hassan Guy]

So who told you Pakistan is going for J-20 in fact J-20's are not for Export..

It's been all over this forum.

 

[Silicon0000]

Forget J20, F35, Eurofighter, SU35 and all other XYZ options. They are not for Pakistan. Pakistan is not going to get anything except J31 or TFX or maybe something JF17 type option. Rest are only for Fan boys. Kindly Don't bring it here like every other thread.

 

[LeGenD]

I never get the mindset of ridiculous chest thumping from some members in these kind of discussions.

The revelation here is that F-35 truly shines in a network-centric environment. It doesn't matters how potent an aircraft is on its own, state-of-the-art network-centric warfare techniques and situational awareness are collectively the way forward and cornerstone of 5th generation warfare. It is that simple.

China's strength undoubtedly lies in its ability to quietly get things done. Let those who are mired in wars and in decline just keep burning. China needs to quietly keep doing its thing and get ahead of the rest.

No doubt the J-20 would on most days smoke the F-35. It is simply a better plane and the Chinese have proved this with years of hard work and investment.

So Chinese Industrial capability is now on par with that of the US? Seriously?

What are they so proud of? Economy? Did they forget that Americans helped them get there?

How many J-20s have China build and fielded? We just get to see some prototypes and that's it. Whatever the capabilities of J-20 are, we would never know in full. Same goes for F-35.

However, there is no parity between Chinese creations and American in quality. You can notice the difference even in products of everyday use.

If somebody is underestimating American network-centric warfare capabilities and resourcefulness, that guy is living in a basement.

I never get it why Asians tend to be so emotional and defensive about tech-related matters. We should be glad that we have veterans and knowledgeable guys like @gambit here, who continue to enlighten us with their professional input from time to time. Without them, this forum would be lot less exciting.

 

[Asoka]

Ok, the F-35 destroys the others.



Keep thinking that.



400 crashes so far.

Actually, 600 "crashed". Cancelling them is even better than crashing or shooting them down for your opponent.

 

[Oldman1]

Actually, 600 "crashed". Cancelling them is even better than crashing or shooting them down for your opponent.

Heard 1000 of the F-35s have crashed so far.