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The Real Face of India Hidden From The World(Exposing The Hindutva Terrorists)

look We know you are posting this not out of Love for the Dalits, but to show India in a Poor Light. Indians are working for the upliftment of Dalits, you dont have to worry. God Speed.

Its more of sympathy, i guess........ isn't it Raquib??????? truth sure hurts...... i fail to understand, why highlighting the truth which is even recorded by compliant hindustani media, makes it propaganda?????
 
What would be raquib agenda here? He is gathering available info to expose indian terrorist behavior. He isn't making this up. Why are you getting so upset when he is exposing the truth? What is your agenda? I can understand your love for hidustan but why are you defending hindu terrorist whereas always criticized kasmiri mujahideen.

Indians are famous for registering at websites with Muslim names just to misrepresent Muslims contrary to popular Muslim sentiments against atrocities they are facing in India. It should not be surprising if you see any Indian Hindu posting with Muslim ID on forums and websites.

I apologize for posting this off topic comment but did just to clarify not all those Indian members posting with Muslim IDs are Muslims. Few may be but majority are faking Muslim names.

The topic is about Hindutva terrorism not Islam/ Muslims so I would like to stay focused on the topic at hands.
 
Sorry dude, we can't help it. Unfortunate for you we belong to Muslim Ummah.........

And does that take away the basic human traits like being thankful when someone protects you and your people. I guess no!
 
And does that take away the basic human traits like being thankful when someone protects you and your people. I guess no!

Well, of course i thank India for 1971 as a Bengali... but India just did it for her own interest and nothing else...like, separating Pakistan that would ease the pressure from both sides...!!
 
Well, of course i thank India for 1971 as a Bengali... but India just did it for her own interest and nothing else...like, separating Pakistan that would ease the pressure from both sides...!!

Look, the biggest mistake is to treat the foreign policy of India like the personality of a single individual.

Sure, some Indian policymakers saw it as a way to dismember Pakistan, but several others saw it as a way to end the colonial-esque rule over the region and thus an ethical step.
 
Look, the biggest mistake is to treat the foreign policy of India like the personality of a single individual.

Sure, some Indian policymakers saw it as a way to dismember Pakistan, but several others saw it as a way to end the colonial-esque rule over the region and thus an ethical step.

Yes there were many who really wanted to help Bangladesh.An example,Ravi Shankar.Like many Indian Bengalis and many more who did not think it as political but as a humanitarian cause.
But India's policies towards Bangladesh maligned everything.
India's actions in Bangladesh later caused anti-Indian sentiments to rise.Like RAW's involvement in aiding CHT insurgents,and this is not some conspiracy theory but fact.Not to mention other facts.Those have been mentioned many times.

It is unfortunate but the truth.
 
Well, I guess relations soured after the assassination of your leader, and the subsequent takeover by the military and allied Islamist forces.

I really have no clue about these alleged RAW operations, so I' won't comment on that.
In any case, I'd advise not to take Mr. Munshi's allegations at face-value.

Yes there were many who really wanted to help Bangladesh.An example,Ravi Shankar.Like many Indian Bengalis and many more who did not think it as political but as a humanitarian cause.
But India's policies towards Bangladesh maligned everything.
India's actions in Bangladesh later caused anti-Indian sentiments to rise.Like RAW's involvement in aiding CHT insurgents,and this is not some conspiracy theory but fact.Not to mention other facts.Those have been mentioned many times.

It is unfortunate but the truth.
 
Well, I guess relations soured after the assassination of your leader, and the subsequent takeover by the military and allied Islamist forces.

I really have no clue about these alleged RAW operations, so I' won't comment on that.
In any case, I'd advise not to take Mr. Munshi's allegations at face-value.

No I am not taking Mr.Munshi's words.

CHT insurgents were supplied with arms by India,specifically RAW.

You are right about the souring relations part,but later on issues like water sharing,BSF killings did not help the relation either.
 
This one is to back my claim,not to start any "verbal war" with anyone.

Bangladeshi Insurgents Say India Is Supporting Them

By SANJOY HAZARIKA, SPECIAL TO THE NEW YORK TIMES
Published: June 11, 1989


LEAD: For more than a decade, India has secretly provided arms and money to tribal insurgents fighting for an autonomous state in Bangladesh, rebels given sanctuary in this border area say.

For more than a decade, India has secretly provided arms and money to tribal insurgents fighting for an autonomous state in Bangladesh, rebels given sanctuary in this border area say.

A senior security official here confirmed the assistance and said an undetermined number of rebel fighters had stayed along the border near camps of Indian paramilitary forces.

''The Government is giving them help,'' the official added, without elaborating.

The rebels, who are mostly Buddhists, belong to the Chakma and other tribes in the Chittagong Hills of Bangladesh. They say they are being persecuted and pushed off their fertile land by an influx of ethnic Bengali Bangladeshis, who are overwhelmingly Muslim. Elections Are Planned

President H. M. Ershad of Bangladesh is planning to hold elections on June 25 to give some local autonomy to the Chittagong Hill Tracts, but the Shanti Bahini, the guerrilla organization fighting the Government, has called for a boycott of the vote and declared it will disrupt balloting.

A spokesman for the rebels said Indian officials began to provide arms and money in 1976, after the assassination in a military coup of Sheik Mujibur Rahman, Bangladesh's first President and a friend of India.

The spokesman, Bimal Chakma, said the Indian Government had not given as many weapons as were needed. ''At the beginning we got some consideration, but it is very low compared with what we need.''

The Shanti Bahini has an estimated 500 guerrillas. Over the years, the insurgents have increased their armory by capturing weapons through raids on Bangladesh military units. The rebels in the Chittagong Hill Tracts also picked up large caches of Chinese semi-automatic weapons during the 1971 Indo-Pakistan war. Past Help for Pakistani Rebels

India also armed, trained and financed ethnic Bengali rebels seeking to break away from Pakistan, of which Bangladesh, then East Pakistan, was a part. The guerrilla attacks escalated into a war between India and Pakistan in 1971 after 10 million people fled military atrocities into India. Pakistani troops were routed and Bangladesh was created.

The Shanti Bahini, which means peace corps in the Bengali language, was formed in 1972 after a rejection of demands for autonomy, preferential treatment and an end to the Muslim influx. The Shanti Bahini says it has killed more than 500 members of the Bangladeshi military and the police as well as Muslim settlers.

''We are not separatists and we do not want armed intervention by India,'' said Mr. Chakma, the rebel spokesman. He said they wanted a stop to Muslim settlers, protection of the region's demographic character, free elections and extensive economic and political powers.

Sudhir Ranjan Majumdar, the Chief Minister or top elected official of Tripura state in northeast India, said the state did not ''harbor any Shanti Bahini, although their political wing is here.''

''We have a foreign mission here to consult with the Indian Government,'' a rebel official said. ''When there are bad combing operations by the Bangladesh army our fighters cross the border for security. They also come on leave from the campaigns.'' An Exodus to India

Since 1986, India has absorbed more than 51,000 refugee tribespeople, nearly 9,000 of them in the last two weeks, as they flee what is said to be military repression in the region. The refugees include supporters of the Shanti Bahini and leaders of the movement's political wing, the Jana Sanghata Samiti or People's Struggle Organization.

Bangladesh is the world's most densely populated region and one of its poorest. Since it was formed, Muslim settlers have been moving from other parts of the country to the lightly populated Chittagong Hill Tracts. The influx has changed the ethnic composition of the place and brought tension and clashes in its wake.

The current population of the Chittagong Hill Tracts is about one million, with nearly 600,000 tribespeople. The rest are Muslim settlers.

Bangladesh has stepped up a bitter army campaign against the Chakmas, sending them fleeing into India several times in the last 17 years. The 1986 exodus was the biggest. Rights Violations Reported

Amnesty International, the human rights organization, has reported serious violations of human rights in the Chittagong Hill Tracts by Bangladeshi military personnel, including rape, torture and indiscriminate shooting. Recent refugees say the assaults on women, capture of farmland by Muslim settlers and killing of Chakmas is continuing.

The weariness with fighting is showing and the Shanti Bahini held six rounds of talks over the last year with Bangladeshi officials. However, there has been little progress, Mr. Chakma said.

Bangladeshi Insurgents Say India Is Supporting Them - New York Times
 
Since 1986, India has absorbed more than 51,000 refugee tribespeople, nearly 9,000 of them in the last two weeks, as they flee what is said to be military repression in the region. The refugees include supporters of the Shanti Bahini and leaders of the movement's political wing, the Jana Sanghata Samiti or People's Struggle Organization.

Bangladesh is the world's most densely populated region and one of its poorest. Since it was formed, Muslim settlers have been moving from other parts of the country to the lightly populated Chittagong Hill Tracts. The influx has changed the ethnic composition of the place and brought tension and clashes in its wake.


Bangladesh has stepped up a bitter army campaign against the Chakmas, sending them fleeing into India several times in the last 17 years. The 1986 exodus was the biggest. Rights Violations Reported

Amnesty International, the human rights organization, has reported serious violations of human rights in the Chittagong Hill Tracts by Bangladeshi military personnel, including rape, torture and indiscriminate shooting. Recent refugees say the assaults on women, capture of farmland by Muslim settlers and killing of Chakmas is continuing.

Interesting. A prelude to the current influx of Bangladeshis into NE India and the rapid demographic changes taking place in Assam.
 
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After the peace deal signed in 1997,they gave up their arms and everything is calm and peaceful now.

After the treaty was signed, the PCJSS emerged as a mainstream political party. The Shanti Bahini insurgents formally laid down their arms and received monetary compensation. More than 50,000 displaced tribals were able to return to their homes. The treaty received a mixed response in Bangladesh. While praised by many who sought an end to violence and to forge peace and development, the accord was seen by others as compromising the territorial integrity of Bangladesh and the assertion that the Chittagong Hill Tracts were an inalienable part of the country.The treaty was also criticised due to the secrecy surrounding the negotiations and allegations by the then-opposition party, the BNP, which claimed that the demands of the Bengali settlers were not accommodated in the agreement and that far too many concessions had been made.However, the BNP promised to implement the accord after its election victory in 2001.

Chittagong Hill Tracts Peace Accord - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

However there are very strong presence of Bangladesh Army in that region to keep things in check.
 
Interesting.

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I knew you would go for this part.It happens everywhere and ordinary people condemns it.But our voices really does not have any value actually.

The Shanthi Bahini insurgents too committed crimes like killing bengali settlers in CHT.

attack,retaliation,counter-retaliation......it goes that way all the time.
 
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I knew you would go for this part.It happens everywhere and ordinary people condemns it.But our voices really does not have any value actually.

The Shanthi Bahini insurgents too committed crimes like killing bengali settlers in CHT.

attack,retaliation,counter-retaliation......it goes that way all the time.

Yes, actually the root cause is the population expansion in Bangladesh which forced the ethnic Bengalis to encroach upon the lands inhabited by these tribals.

The population is now expanding into lower Assam too, where the demographics are changing at an alarming rate and they are causing grave concern on Raisina Hill.

I'm going out on a limb here, but perhaps the babus in Delhi at that time foresaw this expansion, and so tried to contain it by supporting the tribals in their struggle. I can see no other reason as to why Delhi would unnecessarily want to interfere in Bangladesh.
 
Yes, actually the root cause is the population expansion in Bangladesh which forced the ethnic Bengalis to encroach upon the lands inhabited by these tribals.

The population is now expanding into lower Assam too, where the demographics are changing at an alarming rate and they are causing grave concern on Raisina Hill.

I'm going out on a limb here, but perhaps the babus in Delhi at that time foresaw this expansion, and so tried to contain it by supporting the tribals in their struggle.


Coming back to the main topic,using the above stated "assumption/fact" RSS and other extremists hindu organisations are trying to term the "bengali speaking Indian Muslims" as Bangladeshis.Often they are tried to Push into Bangladesh.
 
Coming back to the main topic,using the above stated "assumption/fact" RSS and other extremists hindu organisations are trying to term the "bengali speaking Indian Muslims" as Bangladeshis.Often they are tried to Push into Bangladesh.

True, several times Indian muslims in Assam get targetted (not that the Bangladeshi immigrants deserve to be "targetted" either. )

I think the only long term solution to this is for Bangladesh to implement population control measures. I think Bangladesh has one of the highest rates of population growth in the world, and this coupled with loss of land from global warming means that the danger of violent upheavals in the region are great.
 

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