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Well, she isn't anything like those moralistic modern Western feminists. She is a sensible woman. I don't think her enemies will find anything bad about her past.



Counter questions. What should be his qualifications and who projects him as a controversial celebrity ?

Also, I will post his well-known 'Azaadi' slogan :

bhukhmari se azaadi ( freedom from hunger )
berozgari se azaadi ( freedom from unemployment )
punjivaad se azaadi ( freedom from capitalism )
brahmanvaad se azaadi ( freedom from Brahminical tyranny )​

Was this slogan not a good first step towards him making known his position ?



I have already posted that a very important fact about her is deliberately not made known in the West - her liking of socialism as a solution to the problems in Pakistan.

From this article from 2014 about an event from 2012 :






I haven't read the book that was released in 2013 but from its Wikipedia page I find nothing describing her association with Pakistani leftists.



Not everyone in Pakistan. :)

I found this song from 2013 by the Pakistani socialist music band Laal, the song dedicated to Malala. I don't have headphones atm, will listen to the song later.
Accept it or not the prosperity in recent times is due to capitalism.
 
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Representation is still skewed, that's the point.

Sorry you have to elaborate that point.

LOL, There's no IT in Kerala compared to Bangalore, Hyedrabad, Delhi-NCR, Mumbai or even Mumbai.

I don't know about Bombay but you are right about the other places.


OK, that was an unfortunate incident. Should not have happened.

It's Sitaram Yechury.

No, Yechury is GS of CPI-M. Kanhaiya's party is CPI whose GS is D. Raja.

I don't think Yechury was selected for GS due to his Brahmin birth. Below is from Wikipedia page about him :
Yechury was arrested in 1975 during the Emergency while he was still a student at JNU. He went underground for some time, organising resistance to the Emergency, before his arrest. After the Emergency, he was elected as the President of the JNU Students' Union thrice during one year (1977–78). Yechury, along with Prakash Karat, was instrumental in creating an impregnable leftist bastion at JNU.
The underlined text shows that Yechury is GS because of his commitment to the party and the general communist movement.

I have, on two or three occasions, met the state secretary for my state of one of the public Communist parties ( I wanted to join that party ) and I didn't get the impression that he held that position on caste grounds.

Nope. It's optics - selective photos. Yes, the Taliban is/was regressive but socialist governments did not achieved anything than their predecessors. Show literacy rates, female participation rates, infant mortality rate etc. 0.0001% of population attending schools is not progress.

You said "socialist governments". We are talking about Afghanistan here otherwise there's lot to write about socialist governments elsewhere. :)

The second B&W photo has the water mark of the RIA Novosti news agency. The photo must have been taken by a Soviet photographer to record Afghan life during the 80s war.

I am sure if we search hard enough we will find reasonable numbers for the social indicators you mention.

Lol, you're fan of that fat brainless Dictator?

I said DPRK and not Kim Jong Un, though he is not as brainless as you think, considering he has to lead a Western sanctioned country.

But yes, the political system in DPRK is not strictly socialist and must change its system to adopt what is closest to true socialism. Gaddafi tableegh time. :enjoy:

You're wrong here too, I follow many female Afghan handles and not all them are illiterate Burqa clad oppressed women.

Interesting. Please link them here. I am not on Twitter but I can read their posts.

Some years ago I came across an Afghan woman ( I forgot her name ) who used to do reaction vids about Hindi films. She never wore the burqa on camera. And I am sure the female Afghan students in Indian colleges don't wear the burqa too. Contrast this to modern Indian Muslim women who have taken up the burqa.

And it is not that only illiterate Afghan women wear / wore burqa. The Taliban made them to. But these women are defiant. I quote this article from 2020 :
The Taliban issued a decree ordering women to wear the full-body burka in public.

"I never purchased a burka because I won't spend money on something which I don't consider to be part of our culture," she said.

Defiance came at a personal cost. She had to restrict her movements to stay safe.

"The [Taliban's so-called] vice and virtue department used to patrol the streets and they used to beat up women if they didn't wear a burka."

Not surprisingly, most people felt a sense of relief when the Taliban were ousted after the US-led invasion following the 9/11 attacks in the US.

"We could walk in the streets and do our shopping without fear of being beaten up by the Taliban."

Now that the Westerners are doing peace talks with the Taliban who I think want to participate in the government, we will see the burqa more.

Accept it or not the prosperity in recent times is due to capitalism.

If you are talking about India, how does the rise of high-rise / sky-scraper buildings and the mass adoption of private cars become real prosperity ?

In India just between 1995 and 2015 more than 300,000 farmers committed suicide primarily due to economic reasons. Is this prosperity ?
 
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And thats what you took away from the article- Oh well.

I didn't read the article but the picture.
The real left is eliminating poverty in China.
The left in West are fake, they are payed by the capital and dare not to challenge the free market.
 
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Sorry you have to elaborate that point.
That the change is not happening and UCs are ruling whether right wing or left.
https://scroll.in/article/904775/co...ds-caste-discrimination-in-india-is-worrisome
https://velivada.com/2017/10/21/und...nist-leadership-not-hindu-prof-kancha-ilaiah/
You said "socialist governments". We are talking about Afghanistan here otherwise there's lot to write about socialist governments elsewhere. :)
I meant of Afghanistan only.
I am sure if we search hard enough we will find reasonable numbers for the social indicators you mention.
Will try if have some time.
I said DPRK and not Kim Jong Un, though he is not as brainless as you think, considering he has to lead a Western sanctioned country.
He's oppressing his people and making arms when they're dying of malnutrition. You say "militaries disbanded" but support a militaristic country?
Interesting. Please link them here. I am not on Twitter but I can read their posts.
Better see this news : https://timesofislamabad.com/13-Jul-2017/afghan-girls-robotics-team-visa-approved-by-donald-trump
Now that the Westerners are doing peace talks with the Taliban who I think want to participate in the government, we will see the burqa more.
It's sad, Afghanistan could not set up an independent government after all these years.
In India just between 1995 and 2015 more than 300,000 farmers committed suicide primarily due to economic reasons. Is this prosperity ?
How does that compare to pre-liberalisation license raj and red tapism - Nehruvian Socialism?
 
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Then Pakistanis like you should approach him and not only ask him to temper these particular ethnicity-centric sentiments of his but also invite him into a new coalition of Progressive Pakistanis who can present an idea of a Progressive Pakistan which previous people like Faiz Ahmed Faiz would have wanted.

I say this because I want India too to have an umbrella movement under which all the marginalized communities like Dalits, Muslims, farmers, women etc can join the Left and Center-Left to present a new political movement.



Quite a few Muslim-led governments in the past have been secular, socialist and forwarding the true spirit of Islam. This sentiment you know from my previous posts. :)



Bhai, this so-called Afghan Jihad was created in the minds of Western governments to stop Afghanistan from becoming yet another country in the Eastern bloc. Al Qaeda and the Taliban were the creation of CIA.

During the time of the Afghan socialist government there was big social progress, including women becoming a greater part of society. And an Afghan went to space to stay for a few days aboard a USSR space station. Contrast this with the later Taliban government and the social effects that has until now.

And why should we use words like "Kabul regime" like how NATO uses "the Libyan regime", "the Syrian regime", "the Venezuelan regime" etc ?

Faiz Ahmad Faiz was, ofcourse, a great personality and loved by Pakistanis.

However the cause of socialism is lost in Pakistan, we are just a different kind of society.

When Soviets invaded Afghanistan, and we witnessed the injustice, bloodshed, and war crimes, any little love for socialism whittled away.

We saw first hand what kind of society they wanted and rejected it completely.

And look at Kabul in the 80s, pre-Taliban :

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A "normal" scene in Kabul now, post-Taliban rule :

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And please read this Wikipedia page about the lynching of a Kabul woman Farkhunda in 2015 for alleged blasphemy.

Such things are real stats.

Only in the West, wearing less clothes is considered more civilized.

Outside of Kabul, Afghan prople always dressed the same.

Pakistan used to look much the same too, we were very Westernized, but then reality dawned on us and we started owning our Islamic identity.
 
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