The Power of ISI - by iFORCEWarfare Trailer

[ArmyGuy]

I came to know that there are Criminal Inducted in Pakistan Rangers who are connected with different terrorist groups. Also having criminal record and had FIR against those people. How they passed security checks? I mean is there any back ground checks from intelligence agencies?

 

[HughSlaman]

Although ISI is powerful and has successfully done many things. For example, news of Baloch exiled leader not pursuing independence (was very active in hearings etc abroad)...so maybe that was a planted person, simply became logical, was bribed or whatever.....

Bottom line is ISI has been the victom of its policies and those of the state. Indulging in money wars and so on -

So ISI needs to become more stronger + stronger oversight mechanisms to prevent them from making more money due to foreign intervention.

Zia Ul Yakki got killed - ISI sleeping or a party.
Benazir was a massive scam as well just like Yakki boy - Gets killed - ISI sleeping or complicit.
I won't go back to early days of Pakistan as things were different.
Mushy babe and his chalees bandars make $$$$$$$ - ISI is involved as well.

You can count on many examples.

In conclusion, ISI should really understand that their actions have weakened the country.

Well, the ISI is constantly having to deal with all kinds of political pressures, along with attempts to disband it, or take over it, or undermine it, and so on. Some of the democratically elected politicians would love to have more control over it than they do.

There is no intelligence agency anywhere that will pick up on every threat; the KGB, the CIA, and so on all have failures; it is just not in the nature of the game that this will be completely avoided. Intelligence work of this kind just is very difficult, even more so when the terrorists and insurgents are well-trained and well-funded by the likes of CIA, RAW, and the Mossad. That the ISI can acquire such a feared reputation among the intelligence agencies which have budgets many times greater than anything in Pakistan, is remarkable.

Also noteworthy is the fact that the ISI have not lost agents to other agencies. And that we know so little about the successes of its active members is a sign of its effectiveness; the greatest intelligence operatives are the ones you will *never* hear about. On the other hand, the famous ones (like Sidney Reilly, or agents like Kim Philby, and so on) can't be the greatest masters of intelligence work, just because they are the ones whose covers were blown.

Like the other branches of the military, the ISI was not designed to focus on political work as such. So it is a shame that they, and the Army, are treated almost as political parties.

What the ISI was designed to do was function as the "eyes and ears" of the armed forces. In this area -- intelligence support for military operations -- they are the very best in the world, unquestionably, in terms of their skills and professionalism and reliable results..

 

[Burhan Wani]

My Respect and honour for ISI.

 

[HughSlaman]

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I think eyes are blind and ears became deaf...

Oh, really? So how is Operation Zarb-e-Azb able to consistently find terrorists and attack them militarily?

I do not know what relevance you see in a 2009 report concerning the arrest of criminals in Karachi. The ISI is not a group charged with criminal investigation as one of its main concerns.

 

[ArmyGuy]

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Oh, really? So how is Operation Zarb-e-Azb able to consistently find terrorists and attack them militarily?

I do not know what relevance you see in a 2009 report concerning the arrest of criminals in Karachi. The ISI is not a group charged with criminal investigation as one of its main concerns.

Then stop saying eyes and ears of armed forces if isi is not concern ... I m not talking about criminals arrest.. I am talking about criminals arrested later inducted in Armed Force...... I think i have wasted my time posting here.

 

[HughSlaman]

Then stop saying eyes and ears of armed forces if isi is not concern ...

Please remember you are not in a position to tell me what to say or not to say!

I will continue to say that the ISI is the "eyes and ears" of the armed forces because their job, and the reason they were formed, consists in providing intelligence in support of military operations.

Is that really so hard to understand?

They do a good job as the eyes and ears of the Armed Forces; see Operation Zarb-e-Azb.

If you don't like this description being given of them please complain to the officers of the Armed Forces, who refer to them in this way.

I m not talking about criminals arrest..

It's your responsibility to clarify what it is you are talking about.

Incidentally, I quoted a statement to the effect that "I think eyes are blind and ears became deaf..." and either you or someone else has deleted it; I suspect it was you, since you may have realized you were saying something incorrect.

I am talking about criminals arrested later inducted in Armed Force......

That is the responsibility of those whose task is to recruit people into the Armed Forces. It is not the responsibility of the ISI.
Do you want to hold the ISI responsible if it turns out that there are toilets in the Armed Forces' buildings which haven't been cleaned?
You have to first understand what is mean when Army officers say that ISI are their "eyes and ears".

[quote="ArmyGuy, post: 6322047, member: 163604"
I think i have wasted my time posting here.[/quote]

The Army's job is to carry out military operations.
In the context of these operations, the ISI are the "eyes and ears" of the Army.
You are indeed wasting your time if you fail to understand this.

 

[mughaljee]