The Political Situation of China

[cnleio]

Mao worse thing that could of happened to China. Mao set you all back 4 decades. My man Deng destroyed Mao's legacy. Dishonored him like Khrushchev did Stalin..

Compared with West history,
1. PRC's Chinese spent less years to finish Industrial Revolution.
2. In Nuclear Power, PRC and the West nearly reached the same achievement.

When PRC building cars/ ships/ tanks/ aircrafts/ trains/ nukes/ missiles/ nuclear power plants/ rockets/ satellites/ lauching to the space, what the KMT's TaiWan doing now ?!

I see, they'r playing games on the congress...

Without Mao, where's Deng come from ? Deng is a American ? Without Stalin, S.U lost WWII and Nazi won.

 

[Edison Chen]

不管是共产党的大一统，还是国民党的大一统。

在中国没有傲视群雄之前，必须搞权利高度集中制和一党专政，军队由党来亲自指挥，国民经济以国有经济为基础，私有经济为辅助和增加活力。

要是放弃了以上的几点基本上就是在自掘坟墓。

老蒋的国民党基本上做不到以上的几点。那么很抱歉，你们就得彻底的退出中国的历史舞台了。

是的，中国的政治体制本身就是中央集权的上下级关系，从明清开始就是这样，也必须按照这个规律，因为天朝民族，地形，经济状况复杂。

再看看历史上，南北朝时期，君权很弱，世家大族实力强大，不断兼并土地，虽然吸收照顾了流民让其免除徭役，但也造成中央政府劳动力不足，财税收支不平，以至于无法颁布命令，更别提维护统一了。而且世家大族不愿意北伐收复失地，因为这不符合他们的利益。国民党时期有比较自由开放的风气，这是好的，但是他们代表大家族利益，我觉得他们不太可能真正维护统一。

KMT didn't seem to understand that the power comes from people.

Even CPC has somewhat disappointed its people for several years, but Xi Jinping is now trying to redeem the past mistakes.

CPC's power came from people, if they forget this, then they will soon lose their power.

Yes KMT separate itself from common people, they believe in other country, they didn't realize, the future of China lays in Chinese people's hand.

I have very much confidence on Xi, best leader in the new century, and Li.

 

[Lux de Veritas]

Mao worse thing that could of happened to China. Mao set you all back 4 decades. My man Deng destroyed Mao's legacy. Dishonored him like Khrushchev did Stalin..

The opinion of Stalin is too low. In WW1, Russia ceded almost the entire Ukraine to Germany, reason being, the Tsarist government are not able to defeat Germany militarily.

Stalin came to power in 1924. By 1939, a short 15 years, USSR is able to defeat Nazi Germany. Go imagine if Russia is still under Tsar.

The economic growth, real technology advance of USSR under Stalin is what western intellects do not want people to know.

 

[C130]

Yeah, he is the modern founding father of China, and we will still carry his legacy even though that he has made many mistakes.

Most of the US founding fathers were a bunch of slave owners, a huge violation of the human right according to the modern ethic standard, but I don't think any American will forsake their legacy just because of this.

slavery has always been part of human history and is still is today. Mao might of had good intentions, but you look at his legacy and you wonder was it really worth it.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

是的，中国的政治体制本身就是中央集权的上下级关系，从明清开始就是这样，也必须按照这个规律，因为天朝民族，地形，经济状况复杂。

再看看历史上，南北朝时期，君权很弱，世家大族实力强大，不断兼并土地，虽然吸收照顾了流民让其免除徭役，但也造成中央政府劳动力不足，财税收支不平，以至于无法颁布命令，更别提维护统一了。而且世家大族不愿意北伐收复失地，因为这不符合他们的利益。国民党时期有比较自由开放的风气，这是好的，但是他们代表大家族利益，我觉得他们不太可能真正维护统一。

温饱了就开始思淫欲，这是不少国人的通病，而国民党也恰恰是这个尿性。真是像极了当年偏安一隅的南宋小朝廷。

这种国策也只能醉生梦死一时，但最终在这个丛林法则的世界上逃不过亡国亡种的命运。所以中国为了延续其种族的繁衍，必须得有雄心壮志，重回世界的顶峰。

 

[cnleio]

"We cannot expect Chinese to jump from Communism to capitalism , but we can assist their elected leaders in giving Chinese small doses of freedom until they suddenly awake to find they have capitalism."

When Chinese communist playing capitalism, it will be nightmare to the West capitalist.
Now PRC is still a developing country, but if more developed ...

 

[Aepsilons]

One of the major problems China has had with its economic model is that at nearly any time, the majority owner of most of its economy — the state — can jump into an enterprise and distort it for its own purposes. It can cook the books, it can pull out profits, it can hide losses, it can launder money and it can even shut down a company altogether. While China does have tech companies that mimic the features of Google, Facebook and Twitter, note that those Western companies haven’t been able to operate in China. What China wants is not an environment where tech revolutionaries can flourish; it wants Chinese, state-run versions of these startups, which means it will never foster the entrepreneurial spirit that makes companies like these possible.

That desire — that seemingly irrepressible urge of the Chinese to copycat everything foreign, from cars to watches to iPhones to social networks, is ultimately why no matter how good the Chinese get at tweaking state capitalism, it will never match up to the promise of a truly free capitalist economy.

Reference:
Chinese capitalism is just another knockoff | Ian Bremmer

 

[Okemos]

Compared with West history,
1. PRC's Chinese spent less years to finish Industrial Revolution.
2. In Nuclear Power, PRC and the West nearly reached the same achievement.

When PRC building cars/ ships/ tanks/ aircrafts/ trains/ nukes/ missiles/ nuclear power plants/ rockets/ satellites/ lauching to the space, what the KMT's TaiWan doing now ?!

I see, they'r playing games on the congress...

Without Mao, where's Deng come from ? Deng is a American ? Without Stalin, S.U lost WWII and Nazi won.

Nothing wrong with 小国寡民。 If Taiwan can remain peaceful and no country will invade it, why waste time and money on tanks, aircraft, etc? I would rather see the money being spent elsewhere. Of course, China is a different story due to its size and position in the world. But to ridicule Taiwa's democracy is misplaced. At least Taiwan is on the right track and its politics is getting more mature. Pics such as this are only newsworthy, not the full picture of any country.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

国人目前普遍缺乏尚武精神，大陆的尚且如此，港台和海外的就更不提了。

别说咱们这些大陆愤青只会在网上打打嘴炮，而不少人连嘴炮都不朽一打，只知道跪舔西方人。

目前土共没叫你们为国家抛头颅洒热血，只叫你们别多添麻烦就行了。

 

[Aepsilons]

国人目前普遍缺乏尚武精神，大陆的尚且如此，港台和海外的就更不提了。

别说咱们这些大陆愤青只会在网上打打嘴炮，而不少人连嘴炮都不朽一打，只知道跪舔西方人。

目前土共没叫你们为国家抛头颅洒热血，只叫你们别多添麻烦就行了。

您还住在西边。加拿大。如果你是真正的爱国者。你将生活在中国。

将你转移到中国？

 

[cnleio]

您还住在西边。加拿大。如果你是真正的爱国者。你将生活在中国。

将你转移到中国？

Didn't many Japanese living in North and South America ? Even spy in Pearl Harbor for Imperial Japanese Navy in WWII ?!

Overseas Chinese like @ChineseTiger1986, they'r Chinese eyes & voices in the West World.

 

[Aepsilons]

Didn't many Japanese living in North and South America ? Even spy in Pearl Harbor for Imperial Japanese Navy in WWII ?!

Overseas Chinese like @ChineseTiger1986, they'r Chinese eyes & voices in the West World.

Many of the Japanese community in North America & Latin America immigrated there in the early part of the last century. They are as fabric to those nations now. Tho we admire their love of Nihon and admire their pride in being Nihonjin, we consider them Latin Americans.

For Huaren 海外华人 like @ChineseTiger1986 et al, who talk so highly of the Communist Regime and China, i would imagine and expect him to be living in PRC. But alas, he lives in, of all places, Canada.

 

[cnleio]

Many of the Japanese community in North America & Latin America immigrated there in the early part of the last century. They are as fabric to those nations now. Tho we admire their love of Nihon and admire their pride in being Nihonjin, we consider them Latin Americans.

For Huaren like @ChineseTiger1986 et al, who talk so highly of the Communist Regime and China, i would imagine and expect him to be living in PRC. But alas, he lives in, of all places, Canada.

This time, ur logic is contradiction.

Today PRC is not the China ? CPC government is not the China government ? When Japan government officially recognized TaiWan is the China, not PRC ?! So for @ChineseTiger1986 as a overseas chinese, to praise CPC's China is absolutely right.

Did the WWII Japan Empire and today Japan is the same Japan or different Japan ? Check U.N Declaration, the PRC is only legal representative of China and there's only one China government in BeiJing.

 

[Aepsilons]

Today PRC is not the China ? CPC government is not the China government ? When Japan government officially recognized TaiWan is the China, not PRC ?! So for @ChineseTiger1986 as a overseas chinese, to praise CPC's China is absolutely right.

Did the WWII Japan Empire and today Japan is the same Japan or different Japan ?

The Government represents the people , but is not the nation. The nation composes not just the people, government, all fabric of that society, be it the culture, the language, the history.

The word 'China' is vast. When I think of the nation of 'China' , I think of not just the current government form, but I think of the people, the language(s), the culture, the ethnicitie(s), the environment, it is all encompassing.

The word 'Japan' is also vast. The nation of Japan is not necessarily the government, or people, but the culture, the language, the environment, it is all encompassing.

The Government represents the people that control the mandate to rule. So the Government of Japan during WWII is absolutely different to the Government of Japan in the present era. Same thing for the Governments of Jiang Jieshi , the Government of Sun Yat Sen, the Government of the CCP.

There is a dichotomy between the concept of 'Nation' and concept of 'Government'. Governments come and go, but the nation is a permanent concept.

 

[cnleio]

The Government represents the people , but is not the nation. The nation composes not just the people, government, all fabric of that society, be it the culture, the language, the history.

The word 'China' is vast. When I think of the nation of 'China' , I think of not just the current government form, but I think of the people, the language(s), the culture, the ethnicitie(s), the environment, it is all encompassing.

The word 'Japan' is also vast. The nation of Japan is not necessarily the government, or people, but the culture, the language, the environment, it is all encompassing.

The Government represents the people that control the mandate to rule. So the Government of Japan during WWII is absolutely different to the Government of Japan in the present era. Same thing for the Governments of Jiang Jieshi , the Government of Sun Yat Sen, the Government of the CCP.

There is a dichotomy between the concept of 'Nation' and concept of 'Government'. Governments come and go, but the nation is a permanent concept.

In Chinese mind, Only the mainland can be the CHINA. Today is PRC governed by CPC. I think even U.N also agree with my idea.

BTW If Japan government admit another China, pls inform us.